Max Eberle on people who play on barboxes "Pool players need to grow some balls"

F%$ that flat earth believing carrot chomping douche bag.some of us bar box pool is all we have. I’m still playing every day. I’m still supporting the game by buying all the shit and watching it and subscribing. Stop putting us down… we aren’t pro’s and don’t expect to be. We love the game just as much as anyone else. I’m tired hearing this shit all the time.
carrot chomping douchebag. dude that is fkn CLASSSSSSSIC.
 
It can be tough to find 9' tables in the midwest. Where I'm at most places are all bar boxes or maybe they have 1 or 2 9' tables and then a bunch of bar boxes. Even the nice places with Diamond tables are mostly bar boxes.

I'm thankful to have one local place that has 8 9' Diamonds and that is where I play league (for precisely that reason) but they only host like one tournament a year so for those I typically find myself back on the bar boxes.
 
Yeah he's an idiot for being a flat-earther for sure. You have to take what he says with a grain of salt.
He may be a flat earther, but no one can deny that he knows pool and is a high level player. I know plenty of fighter pilots who spout nonsense about every subject but flying fighter jets all the time, but if they say something about flying a fighter jet, I tend to listen to them.
 
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Well now Max , open up your wallet and buy a 9' table for me then build a building to install it into with climate control and bathrooms as it's over 115 miles one way to the nearest 9' tables to play on , yes I prefer 9' tables but they're not to be found around here in the middle of Montana .

I feel instead of alienating bar table pool players why not do & say something positive to & for us unfortunate folks who don't readily have access to 9' tables for instance open up some pool halls across the country similar to what George Frank once did .
If that were to happen I'll bet in nothing flat you also would be selling off all those pool halls and install more casino's .
 
Ok, then come put 9ft tables in all the bars near me that can hardly fit two 7ft valleys...

It's not like most players have a choice unless they live near a pool hall that has a lot of 9ft tables, and I'd wager most pool playing American's don't live close to a real hall.

There's two places sort of near me that have 9ft tables, and they both only have a couple so you could be waiting a long time to use them.

We're a product of our environment, and there's hardly any 9ft tables in my environment.

If there were 9ft tables at my disposal like there is 7ft tables, it's all I would play on.
It's kind of a which comes first, the chicken or the egg? question.

In big metropolitan cities and fancy suburbs, the problem is high rents>>>>so in order to meet the nut the owner has to squeeze in as many tables as possible>>>which means that players who in past decades would've had a chance to gain experience on 9 footers are now having to play on Barboxes, even if they'd prefer to play on "real" tables. The idea that sociable / casual players won't play on 9 footers is BS, at least not if that's how they first got introduced to the game. But for players who've only known Barboxes, going to 9 footers must be like going from a community college to Harvard or MIT.

Metro DC is a case in point. When I began playing in the 60's, Washington had at least 20 or 25 pool rooms in the inner city, nearly all with regulation sized tables (a few had 8 footers), and the MD and VA suburbs combined matched that number. 20 years ago the only rooms in the city with 9 ft. tables had maybe 4 or 5 tables packed tightly together. At least 2 or 3 of them are still there, but with expensive table rates and no action.

In the suburbs as recently as the late 2000's there were a good half dozen rooms with real tables and regular tournaments. Now in order to find a room like that I have to drive 35 to 45 minutes north of Washington, nearly all the way to Baltimore. They've got about 16 real tables and only 3 or 4 seven footers up near the darts and foosball players. It's a great little room, and it'll be around for quite awhile, but in an area with something like 6 million people it's kind of embarrassing that this is all there is. I kind of feel sorry for those who'll never know the challenge of a real table, through no fault of their own.
 
I alternate between 2 rooms. They're each around 20 mins away. Both are about 60-40 split between 9’ and 7’ tables, more 9 footers. The 9’ tables fill faster and will often have a wait while some 7’ tables sit empty.
 
Who give a P@ss .. We as League.. Bar shooter .. don't care
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It's kind of a which comes first, the chicken or the egg? question.

In big metropolitan cities and fancy suburbs, the problem is high rents>>>>so in order to meet the nut the owner has to squeeze in as many tables as possible>>>which means that players who in past decades would've had a chance to gain experience on 9 footers are now having to play on Barboxes, even if they'd prefer to play on "real" tables. The idea that sociable / casual players won't play on 9 footers is BS, at least not if that's how they first got introduced to the game. But for players who've only known Barboxes, going to 9 footers must be like going from a community college to Harvard or MIT.

Metro DC is a case in point. When I began playing in the 60's, Washington had at least 20 or 25 pool rooms in the inner city, nearly all with regulation sized tables (a few had 8 footers), and the MD and VA suburbs combined matched that number. 20 years ago the only rooms in the city with 9 ft. tables had maybe 4 or 5 tables packed tightly together. At least 2 or 3 of them are still there, but with expensive table rates and no action.

In the suburbs as recently as the late 2000's there were a good half dozen rooms with real tables and regular tournaments. Now in order to find a room like that I have to drive 35 to 45 minutes north of Washington, nearly all the way to Baltimore. They've got about 16 real tables and only 3 or 4 seven footers up near the darts and foosball players. It's a great little room, and it'll be around for quite awhile, but in an area with something like 6 million people it's kind of embarrassing that this is all there is. I kind of feel sorry for those who'll never know the challenge of a real table, through no fault of their own.
Great read, Taxi.

When I first learned to play pool, it was right around the corner from Randolph Hills Poolroom, at Hank’s on the Pike, a one-table tavern. I did okay on the barbox with the big cue ball. That’s where I met Tom-Tom. He was the one who took me over to the big tables at Randolph Hills… and that’s where everything changed. I was mesmerized by the big tables and the action. I’d sit on the rail for hours, just watching. Before long I started hitting balls on the 9-footers, and my game improved 1,000 percent. Back at Hank’s, I became one of the top shooters in the tavern. Loved every minute of it, beating the guys for a buck or a beer. Simple times. Good times.

Maryland used to have so many great poolrooms. Most of them around suburban D.C. are gone now. Some of the old crowd has migrated to 7 Billiards Shady Grove in Gaithersburg. Although I prefer poolrooms with no music, no alcohol, and no big-screen TVs, 7 Billiards Shady Grove does have the food, drinks, and big-screen sports, but the saving grace is there is some solid local talent there, still bringing that familiar pool high when you run out.

Some things change, but that feeling never does.


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After running a pool room for years I realized the masses could care less about 9 foot tables. Your fun casuals who spend money are use to bar tables and its easier for them to make balls which is more fun for them. Put them on a tight 9 foot and one game might take 30 minutes.

You also can fit more tables in your room which generates more revenue. Now as someone who loves the game and especially one pocket, give me the 9 footer with 4 inch pockets. You can transfer down to playing small tables but small table players will have a tough time transferring up to those bigger tables. Just my take.
 
Today it's all about money doesn't matter what size table ,if you can make a good living on 7 or 9 ft tables keep on trucking and prosper.
 
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