Maybe not new question but why woman not as good as men in certain sports?

BarneyCalip

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Are you Kidding Me

First let me say that men are Inferior to WOMEN.
Love you dear. :bow-down:
Can I go out and play now.

I think that talking is cheap !!!!!
I don't care what the excuse is why Women aren't better.
They just aren't.

When in the History of Pool has a Women been the top player in the Men's World.
How much more time do they need?

I don't see a women in the near future, who is gong to dominate like Shane Van Boening or Francisco, (he has been on a run lately).

I agree it theoretically could happen, but not in my lifetime.

Damm, I've been grounded.... :eek:
Sorry Dear. :crying:
 

jasonlaus

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Forget it. I feel like you owe me about 2hrs of pay trying to figure out what you say they AVERAGE
 

original palmer

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i dont think he ever said what the average is.

Has there ever been a woman in the history of life that could beat Greenleaf i his prime?? how bout mike sigel?
 

jackpot

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Which sport

Why are men better at certain sports than women? Which sports
are women better at ???. Sports I said sports now not other things.
jack
 

BasementDweller

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Evolution is the simple and scientifically plausable answer. Men who are successful in competitive ventures are seen as prefferable mates to females and that has caused a drive in men to "win" that women have less of. Men generally don't look at competitive success as a high priority in potential mates and as such it is not a genetically enhanced thing in females.

Women are less competive at sports for the same reason that male deer grow huge antlers to fight other males with while female deers do not. The male birds with crazy plummage to attract females of the same species who do not have the same elaborate feathers.

Males of every species have competition driven into them by evolution to attract mates, females not nearly so much and not in the same way at all.

The same line of reasoning can be used to point out that not only do men have more of a competitive drive than woman, but they also by and large have better hand eye coordination. Throughout history men have been relied on to hunt, fish, build, fight and defend. So all else being equal, men are at an advantage in this department. This is not to say that there aren't women that are very coordinated, or even some that are less coordinated but are able to overcome this through hard work. But the numbers will always be in our favor. Or at least, for the next few thousand years.

As far as the break is concerned, it really depends on what game you are talking about. In ten ball, I think the men have a huge advantage. 9 ball not so much.

Overall, I think men have much more powerful strokes than do the women. However, this difference is difficult to see due to the fast cloth that is now typical on any tournament table. However, think about it this way for a second: When a woman is faced with a long difficult pot, that she has to draw the cue ball back say 3/4 the length of the table, can she do it? Of course she can. However, this type of shot is probably going to be pushing her to the limits of her stroke's ability. Now when a top male pro is faced with a similar shot, he will only be stroking at say 70 percent of his total ability. While this difference in stroking ability doesn't show up each and every rack, it does show up over the long run if you pay close attention.

So it's the difference in the stroke that makes the men better than the women in the long run. I don't really know, but I bet this difference showed up much more clearly in the pre Simonis days.
 
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BasementDweller

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I talked to Allison Fisher about this recently and I personally believe she (and other women) can beat any man on the planet. At some point I'm going to dedicate some time to prove this is true, and I'm very confident what the results will be.

Women are better martial artists than men, they need to be trained at pool as if it's a martial art, not a "sport" or a "game" as done it the past. 'The Game Will be the Teacher'

Sort of like how Vivian Villarreal beat you back in the day on ESPN? Oh wait....she didn't beat you.

Am I remembering that correctly? I can vaguely remember you two playing. Maybe I'm mistaken though.
 
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CJ Wiley

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the inside line is "Mrs Norris" can give Chuck the last two.

Good grief, Wiley. Since when has Chuck Norris ever had his ass kicked by a girl. :)

I live in Texas, the inside line is "Mrs Norris" can give Chuck the last two. :wink:
 

CJ Wiley

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I can hear the "Rocky" music faintly in the background.

Really?

How about you back Allison Fisher against SVB at 10 ball on TAR. I was under the understanding that SVB had a backer and was taking all comers.

You are barred but maybe your horse isnt...;)

If you "PERSONALLY BELIEVE" then bet it up....I think you could get all the action you want.

Best of rolls my friend,

Ken


I talked to Allison Fisher about this recently and I personally believe she (and other women) can beat any man on the planet. At some point I'm going to dedicate some time to prove this is true, and I'm very confident what the results will be.

Women are better martial artists than men, they need to be trained at pool as if it's a martial art, not a "sport" or a "game" as done it the past. 'The Game Will be the Teacher'


Make sure you carefully read my post....they may not be able to now, however, this can change, I hear the "Rocky" music faintly in the background. :thumbup:.....and it will be 9 Ball with "Call Pocket" rules.
 
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Ken_4fun

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Make sure you carefully read my post....they may not be able to now, however, this can change, I hear the "Rocky" music faintly in the background. :thumbup:.....and it will be 9 Ball with "Call Pocket" rules.

I talked to Allison Fisher about this recently and I personally believe she (and other women) can beat any man on the planet. At some point I'm going to dedicate some time to prove this is true, and I'm very confident what the results will be.

Where did I mis-quote you CJ?

Ken
 

cueporn

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Jean is the only one I can think of. I know she played with men because no women at that time could consistently compete with her.

Who do you think the other 3-4 are?

Ken

Allison Fisher played at pretty high level, didnt compete with men much since she did very well in WPBA
Karen Korr outplayed Allison towards the end and has placed high in mens events and won Joss stops
Lorie John Jones played pretty strong at one time

What irks me a little is the attention the A level women get if they are young and attractive. I mean they wouldnt win a local event regularly. Lots of up and coming players deserve some limelight.
 

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... Men make 1-2 more balls on the break than women. ...

As a general statement, I doubt that's true.

I don't recall keeping any break stats from women's events.

But I just looked back at the stats from a couple of recent men's events. In the six 9-ball matches (87 games) streamed by Accu-Stats from this year's Derby City Classic, the average number of balls made on the break, including balls made in the games in which the breaker fouled on the break, was 1.2.

In the Van Boening vs. Dechaine TAR 31 10-ball match last month, the average number of balls made on the break for the 83 games played was 1.5.

This is a very small sample. But it provides preliminary evidence that the difference between men and women pros in the average number of balls made on the break is probably less than "1-2."
 

LAMas

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All one needs to make on the break is one ball. If one can pattern rack then running out is easier and could be universal to men and women.
 

CJ Wiley

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You "left out" out the subject of my entire post - that women could do it IF........

I talked to Allison Fisher about this recently and I personally believe she (and other women) can beat any man on the planet. At some point I'm going to dedicate some time to prove this is true, and I'm very confident what the results will be.

Where did I mis-quote you CJ?

Ken

You "left out" the subject of the my entire post - that women could do it IF they were trained like pool was a martial art, not a game or sport. I said this was the condition, read it for yourself:

I talked to Allison Fisher about this recently and I personally believe she (and other women) can beat any man on the planet. At some point I'm going to dedicate some time to prove this is true, and I'm very confident what the results will be.

Women are better martial artists than men, they need to be trained at pool as if it's a martial art, not a "sport" or a "game" as done it the past. 'The Game Will be the Teacher'
 

AtLarge

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All one needs to make on the break is one ball. If one can pattern rack then running out is easier and could be universal to men and women.

It would certainly be interesting to see the top men vs. the top women in any of these situations, all of which lessen the importance of power on the break:

- Magic Ball Rack with a dead wing ball

- Paul Schofield's No Conflict Rules (shoot what you break, regardless of whether you make a ball)

- Push-out required after the break (this one may be what CJ is talking about for women competing well with men)
 
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backplaying

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Would anyone stake any women they pick getting the last 3, against a top male player, a 10 ahead, 9 or 10 ball, for 5000?
 
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