Me and Fatboy
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Good luck Jay for the WSOP ! I played the biggest WSOP event of last year with 3150 players with $1.5k buyin. The structure is kind of a crapshoot and you need to double up early but I do hope you get there and pick up the bracelet and some cash so you and Fatboy can raise up the stakes for your 1p match 
Okay, I played on Day Two of the second event. They had too many players to put everyone on one first day. There were 2,000 players on Day One and 225 made it to Day Three. In my section yesterday they had 1,929 players and 220 made it through. Guess what, I'm one of them. So there are about 445 players left in this event and we start today at 2 PM PST.
The bad news is that only 378 finish in the money (last place is $2,900). I need to get past another 70 guys to make the money. And I'm kinda short chipped with only 17,800. An average stack is around 25,000. My first goal is just to make the money, That may take two hours or more. My second goal after that is to make the final table. That's where the really big cheese is! But that's a long way off right now.
Thanks for all your support. I'll let you know how it turns out.
The bad news is that only 378 finish in the money (last place is $2,900). I need to get past another 70 guys to make the money. And I'm kinda short chipped with only 17,800. An average stack is around 25,000. My first goal is just to make the money, That may take two hours or more. My second goal after that is to make the final table. That's where the really big cheese is! But that's a long way off right now.
Thanks for all your support. I'll let you know how it turns out.
If you win I expect to see you in Manila in a couple of weeks 
Good luck Jay
Good luck Jay
jay helfert said:
Everybody will be playing tight to make it to the money, loosen up and play to win!
jay helfert said:
What do the blinds (and antes?) start at today?
-Andrew
philw said:
It was a joke. I agreed to Fatboy's request for a longer match.
Andrew Manning said:
Ante's are 100, and the blinds are 500 and a 1,000.
hangemhigh said:
Thanks for some good advice. Easy to say but not always so easy to do. I don't want to bluff off any chips with a bad hand either. You walk a tightrope in this situation.
jay helfert said:
Hmmm, average stack = 25 big blinds, and there's an extra big blind out there each hand in the form of antes, and the bubble is approaching.
I do believe it's time for some stealing!! I hope you have average stacks on your left; they can afford to fold, but they can't afford to call/re-raise recklessly.
I learned from a good player that you can walk around a tournament one round after the antes have kicked in, and tell who the better players are by how much of their chip stack is made up of ante chips. Go after those 100's with a vengeance, it's a great way to develop your stack at relatively low risk.
I'm sure you have your own game-plan, and I'm sure you're a much better player than I am, I'm just repeating what I've heard from some champions.
-Andrew
Quick calculations based on...jay helfert said:
http://www.pokerpages.com/tournament/result20241.htm
Puts the average stack at 26,098. The median is 21,400.
If you have 17,800 chips there are about 170 players who have less chips then you. I would say you have a very good chance of at least making the money.
Andrew Manning said:
Very good advice Andrew. Thanks! Here's my problem, one of the monster chip stacks is right next to me on my left. He has over 100K in chips. I CANNOT bluff him and try to steal his blind. That would be fatal. I will have to find some good cards to play, and then take a stand. If I raise, he can come over the top of me with almost anything, knowing that even if he's a dog in the hand, I can't hurt him.
Bottom line, I have to win the first hand I play or I will be crippled, or OUT! Now, if I can catch some cards and they hold up, I can build a nice healthy stack. We'll find out soon enough what's it gonna be.
P.S. I've been in this spot before, so I feel comfortable going in. I just don't like that I'm not in position to steal here, because I definitely would!
calcuttaman said:
That's 447 players left. You can find them all listed on Pokerpages.com and Pokernews.com
jay helfert said:Very good advice Andrew. Thanks! Here's my problem, one of the monster chip stacks is right next to me on my left. He has over 100K in chips. I CANNOT bluff him and try to steal his blind. That would be fatal. I will have to find some good cards to play, and then take a stand. If I raise, he can come over the top of me with almost anything, knowing that even if he's a dog in the hand, I can't hurt him.
Bottom line, I have to win the first hand I play or I will be crippled, or OUT! Now, if I can catch some cards and they hold up, I can build a nice healthy stack. We'll find out soon enough what's it gonna be.
P.S. I've been in this spot before, so I feel comfortable going in. I just don't like that I'm not in position to steal here, because I definitely would!
I definitely agree that you can't steal with a monster stack to your immediate left. Tough luck on the seating there.
I hope he leaves the table frequently, or failing that, I hope your A-K holds up!
-Andrew
Well with 7 M's (Orbits) left you probably should be shoving in with the top 25% disregarding the Big Stack. Hope you do well. I'll be there from the 17th to the 27th. I know the feeling and I'm sure being in the thick of it must be exciting. Good luck buddy.
All IN Baby
Jay, I have just one word for you........ "Stop And Go."
Doug
(It always works..............most of the time)
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Jay, I have just one word for you........ "Stop And Go."
Doug
(It always works..............most of the time)
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