*Karen Corr overcame this. Not joking.
Men vs Women at pool
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Isn’t being short also a handicap when competing on a fixed height table? The average woman is shorter than the average male.
Bust size & height notwithstanding, women sometimes have another advantage: when competing against macho/sexist types, if they get ahead, some men become unraveled and fold.
I wonder if the male ability to focus might also be a handicap? I often have to concentrate so hard on pocketing a difficult shot, there seems too little mental energy left to accomplish proper CB position.
I have no doubt that if more women had grown up hanging out and swearing in smokey poolhalls, men would not be so dominant at the game.
Yep, but this young woman was waaay bigger. Dolly Parton Size, but she was a large framed woman.
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Not really, many GREAT players were short. Pinoys generally are NOT tall.
I hate being shorter than my opponents (at 5' 6" most are taller hehe), it makes reaching for shots a huge disadvantage. And I do think the boobs get in the way of women finding a good stance to shoot from, that is really the only detriment women may have when playing vs men when it comes to pool skill. Everything else is just practice and proper training. When I show women things at the table, they are almost always much more sideways in the stance than the men, and when I try to get them to stand facing towards the shots more, bam, boobs get in the way of the cue.
I have run into the same thing when teach women the how to jump using the dart technique. We usually find something to work around their breasts getting in the way of the stroke.
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Short in pool = tall in snooker
Never understood why pool players will do nearly anything to avoid using the mechanical bridge. With proper technique it's nearly as good as your bridge hand.
It's no different than everything else in society, from the workplace to various sports. Men have thousands of years of control in these areas. In the US, during WWII, women had the opportunity to prove themselves, to prove that the old saying, "it's a man's world", was nothing more than man's opinion based on a history of men making all the rules and viewing women as subservient, mainly due to religious beliefs and customs.
It wasn't until the 1960's that women started to enter the workforce by massive numbers, and women started building sports leagues and participating in sports that had always been considered male activities. There were smaller attemps prior the 1960's, but not many women felt liberated or independent enough to participate. So we men have a few centuries of a headstart when it comes to sports.
I have two daughters, and I've raised them to believe they can do and become anything they set their minds to do or become. I've ever been one to believe that a man is any better than a woman at anything simply because he's a man, with the exception of standing up and urinating his name in the snow or in the sand. That would be difficult for a woman.
According to David Epstein, writer of "The Sports Gene", given enough time, women will eventually dominate most sports that men have traditionally dominated throughout history. Of course, physical sports such as football or UFC is unlikely, due to the physical differences between average men and average women. But all other sports that require strategy, agility, nerves, hand-eye coordination, or a combination of any of these things will certainly be up for grabs. I'm in favor of having men and women compete more with each other, move away from all-men or all-women leagues for thise who would really like to open up the gates of competition.
At the elite level, this has not been the case. At an armature level, this is more likely to happen.
I'm curious if we were to take all the men players in the FargoRate database. Assuming a normal distribution, how many standard deviations out exactly would the FR 800+ players be? Then take all the women players in the database, figure out how long it would take statistically for someone FR 800+ to emerge from a pool that size. Shane Van Boening might be a once in a decade man. Shawna Van Boening might be a once in a couple centuries woman.
For the top 100 lists, I think you have to have 300 games entered within the last 2 years.
The amount of time things were male only does not really matter, if a man and a woman are born on the same day, it does not matter that for 2,000 years men hunted before them, the guy does not automatically have a benefit with shooting a bow or a gun or tracking, it's all training during their lifetime.
For the male/female sports, too many require physical ability to be mixed, and those that don't usually the women are the ones looking to break out into their own areas. I don't know of any sport or club now that specifically states "men only", but there are a ton of women only leagues and clubs, events, etc... Women, just like men, prefer to be among people more like them overall and of similar skill. Same reason you don't see APA 5s rushing out to play in Open tournaments, nothing is stopping them aside from their own willingness to do the thing.
As many times as the latest generations say "we are all equal" they still are divided except now by their own choice instead of being forced, the end result is the same though and in fact the whole thing is just turned on it's head where you can't have a male only thing but women only is just dandy.
Instead of arguing titles and who won matches we are arguing who has the better composite score.
Its a great marketing concept to keep FR relevant, this can be an annual discussion like sports talk shows.
Being the best isn't what pool is about, that is an outdated line The Hustler or TCOM.
What will pool be about in the future? I am hoping it becomes a popular past time where people are known for being respectable and a place for all types of people to enjoy.
As of today pool has that but its not the main culture at tournaments.
Women are planning to take over the entire pool community, Emily Frazer is the policy maker.
Its a great marketing concept to keep FR relevant, this can be an annual discussion like sports talk shows.
Being the best isn't what pool is about, that is an outdated line The Hustler or TCOM.
What will pool be about in the future? I am hoping it becomes a popular past time where people are known for being respectable and a place for all types of people to enjoy.
As of today pool has that but its not the main culture at tournaments.
Women are planning to take over the entire pool community, Emily Frazer is the policy maker.
Smart question
Given we live in a society where women only gained the right to vote 100 years ago and have only been welcomed to the workforce 50 years ago. Jean Balukas was pushed away from being able to compete with men in our lifetime. I think we are a long ways off before we can start sussing out what is a societal construct vs. biological.
More celebration of pool playerhood is needed.
How many players will be forgotten each year because the lack of story telling and community.
If Jay (there is only one Jay in pool) was writing and doing interviews, then what ... you've seen Billy Thorpe talk, he can barely manage a short story. He is a one liner in conversation and interviews. Its not a put down, when compared to Albin or Fedor, so in terms of age, they all have a fair start. Its unclear if any have good business sense, that'd be more useful than SVB with his marketing style break.