Meucci went overseas!!!

And Mcdermotts are not much better. Just today a friend of mine showed me his McD that he purchased only about 6 months ago with the butt colar split fight up the middle. And no the cue has not been abused.
There is not one single nick, dent, scuff, etc. of any kind on the cue anywhere.

Yes, if he would have asked me I definitely would have steered him in a different direction. He is new to the sport and seen the McD commercials. He just doesn't know that much about pool or cues.But today he learned a valuable lesson I am sure he will never forget.

Gary
 
Strokerz said:
Most league players in our area aspire to one day own a Meucci :)
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Actually that's the truth in my area.
On the same day I brought in my $2400 Pinkivory
and purpleheart Paul Mottey to show the guys,
another guy brought in his brand new $600 Meucci.
They glanced at mine & oohed and aahed over his
Meucci.
One guy asked me, " What's the matter? Couldn't afford a Meucci?":(
 
Varney Cues said:
I had a customer today with a brand new one he paid $600 for....the forearm was entirely plastic and lifted off the table 1/4" as it rolled...and the blk dot shaft was clearly cracked 1" between the laminations, going completely through the shaft to the other side. I actually felt horrible when he asked me to "be honest". :(
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Meucci quality control testing part of production. I did hear Meucci is accepting applications. Looking for workers who are able to sweat without complaining, 16 hour days, and must be able to work without lunch breaks or potty breaks.
 
Ky Boy said:
And Mcdermotts are not much better. Just today a friend of mine showed me his McD that he purchased only about 6 months ago with the butt colar split fight up the middle. And no the cue has not been abused.
There is not one single nick, dent, scuff, etc. of any kind on the cue anywhere.

Yes, if he would have asked me I definitely would have steered him in a different direction. He is new to the sport and seen the McD commercials. He just doesn't know that much about pool or cues.But today he learned a valuable lesson I am sure he will never forget.

Gary
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Well, McDermotts are supposed to be guaranteed for life.
Tell him to send it back.
 
bnall said:
Most league players in my area aspire to have a full set of teeth. :D
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You know the toothbrush was invented in Indiana. If it was invented anywhere else they'd of named it a teethbrush.:D :D :D
 
hondo said:
Actually that's the truth in my area.
On the same day I brought in my $2400 Pinkivory
and purpleheart Paul Mottey to show the guys,
another guy brought in his brand new $600 Meucci.
They glanced at mine & oohed and aahed over his
Meucci.
One guy asked me, " What's the matter? Couldn't afford a Meucci?":
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Thats a good one, What part of WV are ya from hondo?
 
bnall said:
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Meucci quality control testing part of production. I did hear Meucci is accepting applications. Looking for workers who are able to sweat without complaining, 16 hour days, and must be able to work without lunch breaks or potty breaks.
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The union fought hard to get these consessions from management;)
 
ribdoner said:
The union fought hard to get these consessions from management;)
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Ya..but I bet they are working for free after they pay their union dues.
 
The Woim said:
:cool:

Meucci's have always been subpar pool cues. And today, well, I'm not one to criticize a fool and how he separates himself from his money... :cool:

You'll never catch The Woim playing with a Meucci or any production cue. I've said it before and I'll say it again, if you have the requisite amount of self respect than you will see that playing this gentleman's parlor room board game literally demands that you buy a custom cue.

Lots of great custom cue makers out there in the $350-$900 range. Unless you're homeless, you have no excuse to not own a custom cue. No excuse at all. Get out a credit card. Sell the extra car that's always parked in the back yard. Cash in your IRA or a CD. Reach into the cookie jar where you stash all those crisp $100 bills...

Do whatever it takes but do it. Buy a custom cue today as your token of love for the game of pool.

I understand the point of view of the other posters who are rationalizing their ownership of Meucci cues. I even agree that someone could mistakenly believe that an inexpensive production cue plays well enough for serious pool. Those men can believe in the tooth fairy if they want, I won't complain. But you'll never catch The Woim ever playing with a production cue.

Blackjack said Meucci's are firewood. Nope, they're not. Your house will really stick if you put that plastic on the fire on a cold November night...

:D

Will you just buy a custom cue and stop being in denial about your [Meucci, Joss, Predator, Schon, Viking, Peschaur, Falcon, Fury, Cuetech, Player, etc]

The Woim
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I know a player who's been shooting with a very nice Southwest for the past year. Lo and behold but what did he say about a month ago but, " I think I played better with that Meucci Gambler than I have with anything else..."

He's probably right.

Flex
 
hondo said:
?????? Where does my post say anything about me liking Meuccis?
I was responding to a guy who liked his Meucci. I've got a 25
year old Meucci that I used to love, but I've heard they're
terrible anymore.
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Maybe I read something that wasn't there. If I did, mistake, sorry.

Kelly
 
CrownCityCorey said:
"Medici" Cues. Click link, then scroll down and read about "Medici" Cues.

Just like McDermott did. The made up a new name too, "Star".
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While I am not a Meucci Fan, please do not make this out to be more than it actually is. Yes McDermott and Meucci are both having lines of cues being made overseas, but this just to keep them competitive with all distributors here that do nothing but bring in off shore merchandise.
I suspect that Joss and Viking will be next, there is only one way to survive in business and that is to adapt and over come just like the 23 years I spent in the US Army!!!!

Now lets also be clear, not all McDermott's are made outside the country, and neither are the Meucci cues.

Unlike many others, these products are only a side line to offer a cheaper product. Also unlike the other products brought into this country, from ASIA, McDermott's Star series has the only life time guaranty even covering shaft warp for life.

Have a good night!!!!
 
The Woim said:
:cool:

Meucci's have always been subpar pool cues. And today, well, I'm not one to criticize a fool and how he separates himself from his money... :cool:

You'll never catch The Woim playing with a Meucci or any production cue. I've said it before and I'll say it again, if you have the requisite amount of self respect than you will see that playing this gentleman's parlor room board game literally demands that you buy a custom cue.

Lots of great custom cue makers out there in the $350-$900 range. Unless you're homeless, you have no excuse to not own a custom cue. No excuse at all. Get out a credit card. Sell the extra car that's always parked in the back yard. Cash in your IRA or a CD. Reach into the cookie jar where you stash all those crisp $100 bills...

Do whatever it takes but do it. Buy a custom cue today as your token of love for the game of pool.

I understand the point of view of the other posters who are rationalizing their ownership of Meucci cues. I even agree that someone could mistakenly believe that an inexpensive production cue plays well enough for serious pool. Those men can believe in the tooth fairy if they want, I won't complain. But you'll never catch The Woim ever playing with a production cue.

Blackjack said Meucci's are firewood. Nope, they're not. Your house will really stick if you put that plastic on the fire on a cold November night...

:D

Will you just buy a custom cue and stop being in denial about your [Meucci, Joss, Predator, Schon, Viking, Peschaur, Falcon, Fury, Cuetech, Player, etc]

The Woim
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The bold quote above is the dumbest thing I have ever heard...........well, dumbest thing next to a grown man reffereing to himself as the WOIM in third person.....
 
JCIN said:
A great player can play with virtually anything. Earl with a Cuetech, Thorsten Hohman is playing with a Lucasi, Buddy Hall played with one also for years. But, they are Paid to use those cues. When is the last time a pro lost a deal and kept playing with the cue because it hit so good?
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Most recently Kelly "Kwik Fire" Fisher won the San Diego tournament, and placed 5th in the World Championships using the same $220 Fury cue she started with. These accomplishments were AFTER the sponsorship ended.

I have seen many, many, many pros using Meuccis when in action. Cliff Joyner and Danny Medina come to mind.

The honest to god truth about the whole thing is that if you took all the cues made and disguised them so that there were no brands and then asked 100 top players to rate them you would have a huge range of ratings wherein lots of "production" cues would be rated above "custom" cues. It's all personal feel when it comes down to it and what feels good to me may not feel good to you.
 
John Barton said:
The honest to god truth about the whole thing is that if you took all the cues made and disguised them so that there were no brands and then asked 100 top players to rate them you would have a huge range of ratings wherein lots of "production" cues would be rated above "custom" cues. It's all personal feel when it comes down to it and what feels good to me may not feel good to you.
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The whole "feel" or how it plays is of course subjective. If someone tells me that they bought a custom cue solely for the reason it "Plays better than a production cue because it is a custom cue" and for no other reason. I stop paying attention.

You make custom cases. They do not protect cues any better than some of the cheaper alternatives, but the value of the object is more than the basic function it performs. It is the craftsmanship and artwork involved. If some one appreciates craftsmanship and something out of the ordinary they will pay a premium. If they don't they can get a case for a fraction of the price that will perform the same basic function. Same thing with cues, golf clubs, fishing rods and numerous other things.

The fact is we don't make everything look alike and so brands and styles do make a difference. If you don't think so. Ask a player to hit two blacked out cues. One a Southwest and one a production cue of your choice. When someone likes the hit of the production cue better, clean off the cues and tell the guy he can have either one. If it is someone who knows what a South West is I know what he is gonna pick. So even though it don't matter it does. Make sense?
 
John Barton said:
Most recently Kelly "Kwik Fire" Fisher won the San Diego tournament, and placed 5th in the World Championships using the same $220 Fury cue she started with. These accomplishments were AFTER the sponsorship ended.

I have seen many, many, many pros using Meuccis when in action. Cliff Joyner and Danny Medina come to mind.

The honest to god truth about the whole thing is that if you took all the cues made and disguised them so that there were no brands and then asked 100 top players to rate them you would have a huge range of ratings wherein lots of "production" cues would be rated above "custom" cues. It's all personal feel when it comes down to it and what feels good to me may not feel good to you.
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I agree John, however, those same products will not stand - up long term, I mean the quality is just not there. The plastics used instead of Phenolic, the finishes that are applied to thin of chip, crack and peel when expansion and contraction occurs. The chemically stabilized and treated wood that warps as the chemicals evaporate with time, I could go on and on.

However, I do agree John that hit and feel are subjective, but when the substandard adhesives begin to break down from use or temperature change this will change.

John, why do they not build cues that they would want to put life time guaranty on. I know that they can do it, but until this happens, while I will sell them, I will not sing the praises of Asian cues. I am also a little surprised that you continue to make these comparisons between import cues and custom cues. You of all people do know the difference, so please John why do you do it?
 
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I am going to say something on here that not many cuemakers will admit. Here goes: I do not build perfect cues! I feel that I build good cues, but not perfect cues. I really hate to see anyone and especailly other cuemakers trashing Meucci or any other cuemakers cues, for that matter, on here. Let your quality speak for itself and let Bob's and other cues quality speak for themselves. It seems unprofessional to go trashing peoples quality on a public forum like this. I have seen some current Meucci cues that were very nice and the work real clean. If you have quality control issues on your recent Meucci purchase you need to take them up with the Meucci factory and hopefully they can be worked out. If you do not have an issue that needs worked out, why are you on here trashing them?
 
cueman said:
I am going to say something on here that not many cuemakers will admit. Here goes: I do not build perfect cues! I feel that I build good cues, but not perfect cues. I really hate to see anyone and especailly other cuemakers trashing Meucci or any other cuemakers cues, for that matter, on here. Let your quality speak for itself and let Bob's and other cues quality speak for themselves. It seems unprofessional to go trashing peoples quality on a public forum like this. I have seen some current Meucci cues that were very nice and the work real clean. If you have quality control issues on your recent Meucci purchase you need to take them up with the Meucci factory and hopefully they can be worked out. If you do not have an issue that needs worked out, why are you on here trashing them?
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I don't think most people here ar trashing Meucci cues. Many have said they have had similar experiences:

Old Meucci = good quality.

New Meucci = not good quality

If I was a guy just getting ready to plop down $300-$600 for a cue I would like to here all opinions and judge for myself.

If someone who has never played with a Meucci new or old says negative things just because they think it's cool...well that is just dumb. But someone with real experience offering their opinion is more than justified in my opinion.
 
Now I'm about to cry. he-he-he

I have a $600, 4 year-old Meucci that I haven't(slightly) used because it's Meucci.
 
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