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Just like McDermott did. The made up a new name too, "Star".
Just like McDermott did. The made up a new name too, "Star".
Meucci went overseas!!!
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OK I see it now!
McDermott is going to have another cue named Lucky out too!
It looks like Star is providing a good warranty through McDermott though.
I just don't know what to think about it.
Here is the website:
http://www.mcdermottcue.com/BilliardsBrandsInc/AboutUs.asp
McDermott is going to have another cue named Lucky out too!
It looks like Star is providing a good warranty through McDermott though.
I just don't know what to think about it.
Here is the website:
http://www.mcdermottcue.com/BilliardsBrandsInc/AboutUs.asp
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OH THE HORROR!!!!!!!
you mean to tell me that someones who makes crappy cues Stateside has the balls to make cues overseas.... GASP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Who cares where its made...quality can be found anywhere... check ADAM,Falcon, Preds...
As can CRAP..."can anybody say MEUCCI"....I admit I like the design of alot of their cues..but the Customer service has a bad rep...
you mean to tell me that someones who makes crappy cues Stateside has the balls to make cues overseas.... GASP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Who cares where its made...quality can be found anywhere... check ADAM,Falcon, Preds...
As can CRAP..."can anybody say MEUCCI"....I admit I like the design of alot of their cues..but the Customer service has a bad rep...
Whether Meucci was/is crap or not is not the point. Meucci was one of the last made in USA major cue production outfits.
Viking and Joss may be the only major ones left (of course there's us, but were small
) for USA only.
Viking and Joss may be the only major ones left (of course there's us, but were small
) for USA only.
CrownCityCorey said:
eh.....so if I read it right...it doesnt matter if they put out poop sticks as long as its American made poop sticks??????
smokeandapancak said:
Ahhh!!! The power of branding.
It is hard to admit on this forum that you own meucci cues and worse yet really like them. I am guilty of both. I bought mine before becoming a member here and really like them. The are nice looking , straight and seem to play well (I am Not a good player).
Had I been a member here for a while I would never have considered buying a Meucci. How did they get such a ba d reputation and why do people feel that they do not play well?
Had I been a member here for a while I would never have considered buying a Meucci. How did they get such a ba d reputation and why do people feel that they do not play well?
teebee said:
If you play pool long enough to become good, you will understand. Meucci quality has really declined in the last 20 years.
I grew up with Mooches...still have soft spot for them.... but people talk, and they talk alot...about the baddness that is Mooch...
If you like yours..then thats all that matters... play on and play well....
If you like yours..then thats all that matters... play on and play well....
I owned many "Moochies" during my teens and early 20's. Where I learned to play they were the "it" cue.
I was looking at some new ones in a local shop not long ago and the first thing I thought was "Wow these things feel and look cheaper than I remember." I am pretty sure it wasn't just the passage of time that caused this impression.
It saddens me that such an icon in the American pool world has seemed to slide downhill.
As far as moving off-shore, no surprise there.
I was looking at some new ones in a local shop not long ago and the first thing I thought was "Wow these things feel and look cheaper than I remember." I am pretty sure it wasn't just the passage of time that caused this impression.
It saddens me that such an icon in the American pool world has seemed to slide downhill.
As far as moving off-shore, no surprise there.
Whoa, time out. I own 4 meucci cues that I bought out of our inventory when I owned my poolroom. Why? They look ok, they play ok and I see nothing wrong with them, and I didn't pay more than a buck and a half for any of them.
I've run in the 70's with them, and if we play a game to 100, I'm a favorite to string 3 racks or so together, so while I'm no world beater, I can hold my own and feel comfortable with them.
Here's the thing. There are people who need elite names on their cues, and people who equate the playability of a cue by how many thousands they pay for them.
You will never find me spending more than 250 bucks on a cue because I'm not into that. I'm no collector, I don't need my motorcycle to say Harley Davidson or my car to say Cadillac or my drill to say Dewalt for that matter. I've built plenty of things with an old Royobi.
For those that (for some reason) do, need special custom made zillion dollar cues, good, wonderful. Everyone needs a hobby. As a collectable cue, a Meucci is about as valuable as a kids marble collection. But for a good two piece stick that isn't made of balsa wood, its just fine for those of us who just want to play.
One thing I know for sure, what you play with is no measure of how good you play, one way OR the other. I've put plenty of guys on the trailer unscrewing their Scrug, Joss, Southwest, Northeast, North by Northwest, who cares. So if you want to be a collector, great. That doesn't make any midrange stick junk. It just makes them not desirable to collect.
Now, the newest cue I have is nearly 20yrs old so unless Meucci started making 12 piece cues with silver spacers and wide grain wood, ( I dunno) they are just fine to play with. I still have my original two cues I purchased back in the 60's also. No points or inlays on them. I have one Palmer and one Adams, and aside from being slightly more nose heavy than my Meucci's, they play fine too.
Anything you spend on a cue above 100 bucks is no more than cosmetics or hours of labor spent being individually made. Neither of which necessarily have much to do with how they play.
I've run in the 70's with them, and if we play a game to 100, I'm a favorite to string 3 racks or so together, so while I'm no world beater, I can hold my own and feel comfortable with them.
Here's the thing. There are people who need elite names on their cues, and people who equate the playability of a cue by how many thousands they pay for them.
You will never find me spending more than 250 bucks on a cue because I'm not into that. I'm no collector, I don't need my motorcycle to say Harley Davidson or my car to say Cadillac or my drill to say Dewalt for that matter. I've built plenty of things with an old Royobi.
For those that (for some reason) do, need special custom made zillion dollar cues, good, wonderful. Everyone needs a hobby. As a collectable cue, a Meucci is about as valuable as a kids marble collection. But for a good two piece stick that isn't made of balsa wood, its just fine for those of us who just want to play.
One thing I know for sure, what you play with is no measure of how good you play, one way OR the other. I've put plenty of guys on the trailer unscrewing their Scrug, Joss, Southwest, Northeast, North by Northwest, who cares. So if you want to be a collector, great. That doesn't make any midrange stick junk. It just makes them not desirable to collect.
Now, the newest cue I have is nearly 20yrs old so unless Meucci started making 12 piece cues with silver spacers and wide grain wood, ( I dunno) they are just fine to play with. I still have my original two cues I purchased back in the 60's also. No points or inlays on them. I have one Palmer and one Adams, and aside from being slightly more nose heavy than my Meucci's, they play fine too.
Anything you spend on a cue above 100 bucks is no more than cosmetics or hours of labor spent being individually made. Neither of which necessarily have much to do with how they play.
I never thought to put customer service and pool cues together in the same sentence. But I only bought 1 cue brand new, a Joss Sneaky about 13 years ago and it was custom made. All others were bought used/redone. Pool and customer service just sounds odd. 
Sorry, off the topic.
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Sorry, off the topic.
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The fact that you got them that cheap is unique to your situation. Many Meucci's retail for several times that and of all the examples I have seen lately the quality of materials alone does not justify the price.3andstop said:
The fact that you picked up a Meucci 20 years ago and are still happy with it proves the point that the older cues were made to a good standard of quality. the point I think many are making is not that a production cue is "bad" it's that in recent years Meucci quality and cusomer service has went in the dumper.
As for what it takes to play the game, everyone with any sense knows it's the Indian not the arrow, but, if you have never paid more than $250 for a cue how do you know if there is any difference or not between a Meucci and a South West? Because there is a big difference. That difference may not influence your level of play but there is a major difference in the two.
I thought that:CrownCityCorey said:Whether Meucci was/is crap or not is not the point. Meucci was one of the last made in USA major cue production outfits.
Viking and Joss may be the only major ones left (of course there's us, but were small
JOSS
Peacheur
Schon
Jacoby
are a few that are still made in the USA.
edit: & RAT cues (which are really very nice).
Poke N Hope said:
This is accurate. Meucci made good cues in the 80's. In fact these old Meucci's still have value.
txplshrk said:
Close. Balabushka.
PROG8R said:
Joss and Viking are the only major USA only production outfits. Viking is the larger of the two.
J. Pechauer
Schon
Jacoby and the like are still smaller (considered custom) operations.
I would be curious though to see Schon's production numbers as they seem to have a vast dealer/distributor network.