Allen should bring the girls back to SBE, all of them will show up.
Good idea!!!
Maniac
Allen should bring the girls back to SBE, all of them will show up.
Cute post but pro pool players are not salaried workers, or hourly workers. They are gamblers. Do they have contracts? No they pay money to enter tournaments with pre-determined prize payouts for certain places.
If these were athletes under contracts with contractual obligations, then I would completely agree with statement. But they are not under contract. What are the rules of tournament? Did the players follow the rules? In the tournament rules does it say that each player ... and that no player can ...
In the gambling world it pays to know the rules. Maybe you should take this as a lesson in gambling because whiners don't get paid.
Injured, sick, or unable to perform are VALID reasons for "standing people up".
Dumping/chopping is downright wrong and VERY unprofessional. Not even in the same class as the examples you listed.
And....FTR.....the SBE 14.1 tourney isn't the only example in the history of professional pool of chopping/dumping. This act is fast losing pools sponsors and fans. Just what they need, right???
Maniac
Wow...quite a post.
If a promoter holds a tournament and adds money, ever think it might be added based on the return the promoter thinks they can make? I'm sure there are plenty of events (SBE Pro included) that anticipate a certain amount of spectator attendance. If the pros don't play the final, why should they get any money? Some finals are streamed, some streamed for free. And there are potential advertising dollars to be made on those free streams. Those advertising dollars might come from a sponsor who wants all the people watching the final to see a clip about their product. If I was a sponsor, I would be outraged if the players decided to not play. If they can make a decision to not play because it doesn't break the rules, then I as the sponsor would simply make a decision to not pay, since I doubt there were any rules about that either.
KMRUNOUT
So why don't you become a pro player and show Charlie and Mika how its done? Sounds easy right?
I'm trying to have a level-headed discussion here on topic with the original post and now you're gonna throw a grade-school playground dare at me???
FWIW, I am retired. I have no intentions at becoming anything (but older). I retired at age 49 with a full pension and medical/dental/vision insurance. I make more money per year than most professional poolplayers do and never have to get out of my recliner to do so
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Why in the heck do you think that I would want to be a pro poolplayer?
This I can tell you, if I COMMIT to do something in life, I completely fulfill that commitment!!!
Maniac (thinks you may be in the minority with your opinions with chopping/dumping)
If your not willing to take their job, they why bother complaining on how they do it. Be part of the solution or get out of the way.
I bet you've never critized a President of the United States, or a chef in a restaurant, or one of your supervisors, or.....well, you get the picture, right???
Maniac (pullin' his dog out of this fight)
All this complaining isn't changing anything.
Seems to me that the APB did a lot of complaining re pay outs etc, pretty much everything. As long as it was doing them good.
So what have they done, except complain?
Thats what we do here, complain. We can because we see whats wrong with the situation in pool. As far as being able to do anything about it, we can't.
None of us are in any position to make a difference other than voicing an opinion.
Er....uh...the problem with chopping/dumping is that there are spectators who may have traveled a long way and paid to get in to watch them play.
Hell, why don't the entire list of tournament entrants just split the purse equally amongst thenselves and just skip the whole damn tournament???
Maniac (beginning to dislike pro pool more and more as time goes by, and I'm sure I'm not alone)
And when the superstar doesn't show, you get your ticket back in the form of either a refund or a 'raincheck'. And if you don't get any sort of compensation, I'd wager that it would be the last time you pay to see that performer.After all the concerts/games I have paid tickets for, only to get stood up because a superstar was injured, sick or unable to perform.
Mmm... Then either the celebrity or their agent is spreading them too thin.Celebrities can't make it to all events it is a fact of life. Get over it.
I'm sure the folks that made donations to the 14.1 event will be interested to watch that match.At least with pro pool players they try to make it up.
Not that I expect you to "get it" since you are defending inexcusable behavior but it isn't just about the rules, it is about professionalism and respect for the fans, sponsors and the game itselfSo you agree there is no contract other than a tournament that guarantees payouts for x places. Did those players place?
What is the problem? You do a lot of talking but don't want to do anything other than whine. How about read the rules? That might be a good start for you.
You also don't listen, you just keep banging the same drum defending two guys who screwed upSpeak up, it sounds like you have more to say. I don't bite, I type.