Mike Cochran Floaters

nick serdula said:
Nice crayons Marcus. No one that sees this cue sees any inlays. But you have a picture.


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Floaters like this one too. Fade that.
Nick :)
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FADE WHAT??????

I CAN'T EVEN UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR FIRST SENTENCE MEANS...... DOES IT MEAN THAT THERE ARE INLAYS AT THE BASE OF THE POINTS LIKE THE REST OF THE WORLD SEES? OR DOES IT MEAN THAT YOU STILL THINK THAT IT'S A "SPECIAL" CONSTRUCTION TECHNIQUE?


MIKE MADE A GREAT CUE, BUT IF YOU ARE SAYING THAT THOSE AREN'T INLAYS, I CALL BS! YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE THE BLACK INLAYS AT THE BASE OF THE POINTS.

Marcus
 
shadowmoss said:
I am not an expert or know how Mike constructed this affect but it is awful pretty.

Eric

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THOSE ARE ALL AWESOME CUES, I REALLY LIKE THE PATTERN IN THE GREEN ONE.

LOOK UNDER BRIGHT LIGHT, OR SUNLIGHT, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SEE THE INLAYS AT THE BASE OF THE POINTS WHERE THE VENEERS COME TOGETHER ABOVE THE BLACK RING.

Marcus

Marcus
 
FAST_N_LOOSE said:
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Marcus
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Good eyes...
Pretty much right on.
I looked at a cue by Mike at VF several years ago and the work is fantastic (I used a 10X loop to see the details of the veneer ends).
The veneer ends come into an inlay.
Much like this Cash cue where the ring above the wrap is actually an inlay (just posting an example of another inlay concept by another cue maker to make a point).

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I'm no cue expert. And unlike Nick, I'm NOT "in a very very small group that can buy any cue I want". But I'd like to think that I know enough about cues to see that there is no magic, no sorcery, and no major secrets being revealed here. Every one of these cues posted pictures of are pretty and very well executed. Still, I think its pretty evident that they're all done the same way. Cut the points, assemble the forearm and place a small inlay on either side of the base of each point. Its not something totally new. Other cuemakers have done it. And its certainly not some magical miracle that only Mike was able to do.

Each and every one of them are gorgeous cues and their owners should be very proud. But let's be realistic here.
 
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All cues are magical. That's the only way I tell myself that some sneaky petes, or unornate merry widows go for 3000-3500 dollars.

But seriously, this is a nice way to dress up the bottom of the points. Gus used to inlay dots at the corners of his early razor windows. When the finish thinned you could see it pretty clearly. Palmer used an over size hole on the model 16's for the scarab type inlay. Again, easily seen when tyhe finish thinned.

JV - Love the green cue.
 
Marcus

I get calls alot of them asking what is your problem. I asnwer I guess Marcus is trying to limit who he sells his cues to. None of them think you are worth the time and I will follow their advise here and just say many Azers and their friends will pobably never buy a cue from you after your post here. Many.
I see your cues bumped and bumped. Kind of like subdude. Can't sell much these days. May be the economy. But I have a feeling this will be an expensive lesson for you to grow out of. I tell them you aint a bad guy. They don't want to know.
I hope the family is well. You are developing a talent for chasing away customers. I hope you grow out of it.
Mike called these floating veneers. They stop and don't continue to the wrap. I am sure if Helmstetter ever figures it out you will have a Tascarellie just like it.
The cue has no phenolic above the ring.
Nick :)
 
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I just lol'd. Not at your comments to Marcus. But because you still seem to think this is a mystery technique that only Mike knew.

Thanks for the laugh. Nice cue, btw.
 
Thank you

Now I can go on vacation. By the way if everyone knows how Mike did this and had been doing it for about 3 years why are there no other builders doing it also.
See you all in about 5 weeks.
Nick :)
 
nick serdula said:
I get calls alot of them asking what is your problem. I asnwer I guess Marcus is trying to limit who he sells his cues to. None of them think you are worth the time and I will follow their advise here and just say many Azers and their friends will pobably never buy a cue from you after your post here. Many.
I see your cues bumped and bumped. Kind of like subdude. Can't sell much these days. May be the economy. But I have a feeling this will be an expensive lesson for you to grow out of. I tell them you aint a bad guy. They don't want to know.
I hope the family is well. You are developing a talent for chasing away customers. I hope you grow out of it.
Mike called these floating veneers. They stop and don't continue to the wrap. I am sure if Helmstetter ever figures it out you will have a Tascarellie just like it.
The cue has no phenolic above the ring.
Nick :)
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IF I'M NOT WORTH THE TIME, WHY TAKE A SHOT AT ME?

I HAVE NO ISSUES SELLING CUES, NEVER HAVE. YOU CAN SAY WHAT YOU WANT ABOUT ME, EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO AN OPINION.

AS FAR AS THE GUYS CALLING YOU TO FIND OUT WHAT MY PROBLEM IS, THE ANSWER IS SIMPLE....... I WANT ACCURATE INFORMATION SHARED HERE ON THE FORUM, AND YOU CLAIMING THAT THIS IS A "MAGIC TRICK" IS NOT ACCURATE INFORMATION. THEY CAN BE CALLED WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL THEM, BUT THE TECHNIQUE CAN CLEARLY BE SEEN. I'VE NEVER SAID THEY WEREN'T PRETTY, OR THAT THEY WEREN'T WELL BUILT, BUT YOU TAKE SHOTS AT ME LIKE I'M INSULTED MIKE, WHICH ISN'T THE CASE AT ALL.

YOU TAKING SHOTS AT ME PROVES EVERYTHING I NEEDED TO KNOW. IT'S FUNNY THAT BOB AND DEAN ALSO FOUND YOUR WORDING CONFUSING, BUT YOU NEVER QUESTION THEM.

bobco729 said:
Nick, have you been playing with your rubber Ducky again? Floating? lol? >?>?<?<>?>
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deanoc said:
what is a floater
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I ASKED A SIMPLE QUESTION AND YOU HAVE RESORTED TO TAKING SHOTS AT ME AND NOW AT THE TASCARELLAS. THAT SHOWS HOW LITTLE CLASS YOU REALLY HAVE. I NEVER TOOK A SHOT AT YOU, OR AT THE CUES. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THERE WAS ACCURATE INFORMATION BEING SHARED.

YOU REALLY STILL THINK THAT THERE IS NO RING ABOVE THE WRAP EVEN THOUGH IT CAN CLEARLY BE SEEN IN THE PICTURES?

Marcus
 
nick serdula said:
Now I can go on vacation. By the way if everyone knows how Mike did this and had been doing it for about 3 years why are there no other builders doing it also.
See you all in about 5 weeks.
Nick :)
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Because that would be the start of another cue design theft thread.
 
Also, it appears as though everyone except Nick believes that the "floating" veneer illusion is created using an inlay at the base of the points. Having seen Mike Cochran's and Tim Scrugg's cues in person, I can say that there is an inlay there in all of their cues with that illusion. Enough said.
 
Worminator said:
here are some Phillippi Phloaters... :wink:

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I don't know what's more shocking... the fact that someone else's knows of this super-secret technique... or the fact that the other guy doing the same thing was Phillippi. :thumbup:
 
shadowmoss said:
I am not an expert or know how Mike constructed this affect but it is awful pretty.

Eric

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Those are all beautiful and the inlay providing that effect is finished nearly invisible to the naked eye. Impressively done by a great cue maker.
 
Floater's

Nice looking cues,all of them.The real floater is my Avatar!I could not resist.
 
There is no doubt that they are inlays of material that match the point. If they were not, then where is an example of them using a different wood other than ebony or blackwood?

Needless to say, I like Mikes execution of them the best of the examples that I have seen.
 
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