Sweet - free money. Can we bet on the event being held next September?
And grouping this event with the DCC tsk tsk Nice try though.
Mitch Ellerman Ripped Off at Galveston Tournament
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Sweet - free money. Can we bet on the event being held next September?
And grouping this event with the DCC tsk tsk Nice try though.
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Smack catcher.
Buy yourself a banner and quit sliding in below the radar. Hmmmph, these guys think they can make a buck without giving Mike his cut....Sheesh!
BTW: I suggest you eliminate the mild interjection "Well" as it has no particular meaning and simply start your first sentence with "It". Also please change the word "apparent" to "clear" in order that your sentence is more understandable for some of us. j/k-JoeyA loves to start a sentence with the word "Well". :grin:
JoeyA
Buy yourself a banner and quit sliding in below the radar. Hmmmph, these guys think they can make a buck without giving Mike his cut....Sheesh!
BTW: I suggest you eliminate the mild interjection "Well" as it has no particular meaning and simply start your first sentence with "It". Also please change the word "apparent" to "clear" in order that your sentence is more understandable for some of us. j/k-JoeyA loves to start a sentence with the word "Well". :grin:
JoeyA
I see all these posts have not got Mitch his prize, three months or more has passed since the raffle. My guess is Mitch should have taken care of the prize getting to where he lives, moved the prize to storge, or sold it before he left Texas.
IMHO Mitch is out the prize unless friend come forward now to help Mitch with what he has no luck accomplishing on his own.
IMHO Mitch is out the prize unless friend come forward now to help Mitch with what he has no luck accomplishing on his own.
or sold it before he left Texas.
Mitch had already left Texas before they had the raffle drawing.
Mitch had already left Texas before they had the raffle drawing.
Thanks for the clarification of that point.
I would like to thank everyone for the support you have given Mitch in trying to get this resolved. The fact is he won a prize and did not receive it, that is wrong. People have chimed in that he waited 3 months, WRONG! It has been 3 months as of now and this thread has been here for a month and half and Mitch was in touch before that.
I do believe the furniture was sold and Mitch should receive something from it, even if it was 25% of the value it would be fair enough at this point. I have not got any answers from Mr. Rone, he was asked where the furniture was last?, what was it sold for?, who took it? I just think it was all handled very unprofessionally. Mitch should have been contacted before it was sold and he should have also been told he had X amount of time to move it.
If you run a raffle next time you need give details like about shipping and whether you need to be present to win like most do or whatever else might come up.
I am done with this here on the forums unless Mr. Rone will respond to the questions asked and does the right thing with Mitch. One thing is I am not done and will pursue it outside of here with the right people to see if there is something that can be done because I am sure there is some legal way raffles are supposed to be run.
I do believe the furniture was sold and Mitch should receive something from it, even if it was 25% of the value it would be fair enough at this point. I have not got any answers from Mr. Rone, he was asked where the furniture was last?, what was it sold for?, who took it? I just think it was all handled very unprofessionally. Mitch should have been contacted before it was sold and he should have also been told he had X amount of time to move it.
If you run a raffle next time you need give details like about shipping and whether you need to be present to win like most do or whatever else might come up.
I am done with this here on the forums unless Mr. Rone will respond to the questions asked and does the right thing with Mitch. One thing is I am not done and will pursue it outside of here with the right people to see if there is something that can be done because I am sure there is some legal way raffles are supposed to be run.
I do agree that this thread is 3mos after the fact.
It was stated earlier- months earlier- that Lenny and Mitch had made efforts over the past few months to get the prize and were unsuccessful. I believe this thread is a bit of a last resort in their eyes. You will recall that Mitch was offerred $ (1000?) to go away. That didn't happen yesterday.
Our post as of now are 3 months after the tourney ended but this thread is a month and a half old. This whole thing is really a shame but I will make sure that everyone knows about what happened via my live broadcast every week which reaches out to thousands of viewers. :smile:
Lenny
Maybe a BLACK BALLED forum might be in order here. It is a way of keeping scum bag Venue owners and the T D in line if they know they will be reported to a Black Ball list.
But I think the problem here is more wide spread than just a few. It seems to me everyone has a B!tch about Tournaments in one way or another. The same with leagues.
I do not see any progress in Mitch getting anything, but have several question about the Raffle in question.
1. As I understand it Mitch bought a raffle ticket, or tickets, and was not there when the raffle was conducted.
2. Apparently Mitch won a Dinning Room Set, with a Retail Value of 8 GRAND.
3. When was Mitch notified by the person running said raffle he was a winner?
4. When Mitch got notification of being a Raffle Winner, what options were give him to take procession of the Prize?
5. At the point Mitch found out he won a prize what was he told he need to do to get the prize to where he lives and, what did Mitch do about getting the Prize delivered.
6. Where is the prize now, and is it being stored for Mitch for a monthly charge by a storage company, or was given to a backup winner?
1. As I understand it Mitch bought a raffle ticket, or tickets, and was not there when the raffle was conducted.
2. Apparently Mitch won a Dinning Room Set, with a Retail Value of 8 GRAND.
3. When was Mitch notified by the person running said raffle he was a winner?
4. When Mitch got notification of being a Raffle Winner, what options were give him to take procession of the Prize?
5. At the point Mitch found out he won a prize what was he told he need to do to get the prize to where he lives and, what did Mitch do about getting the Prize delivered.
6. Where is the prize now, and is it being stored for Mitch for a monthly charge by a storage company, or was given to a backup winner?
Numbers 1, 2, and 5 are not questions. Nice try.
I voulenteer both easy-e, and Black-Balled to help mitch recover what mitch is trying to recover, as they seem to be experts....
Furniture Raffle
I participated in the furniture raffle at the GWC.
I did not understand the actual furniture that was won would:
(A) be the actual furniture on display at Moody Gardens - which likely needed to be picked up the next day to clear out the venue after the tournament, and
(B) that it had to be the exact same furniture that was being displayed.
I feel if the winner did not get their prizes then I feel like I was scalped as well. Ashley should have held onto the prize until either the winner picked it up or they instructed them to keep it.
I just bought a brand new living room set for my home in Houston, Texas and I can tell you there was one furniture seller who was not going to get my mula.:thumbup2:
Three months or three years - I am ashamed and appalled a furniture vendor at a major tournament would not make this right. Their employees worked the display, took cash and are responsible.
It is not the GWC promoters who should be racked on the coals on this one. It is the vendor.
I would not expect this behavior from furniture sellers such as Mattress Mack. You buy something from Mattress Mack and he guarantees delivery that day. (although my living room suite was not bought from Gallery Furniture either).
Can someone post an email for the local Ashley group and we start to email dissapointment including requests for some concrete answers?
I participated in the furniture raffle at the GWC.
I did not understand the actual furniture that was won would:
(A) be the actual furniture on display at Moody Gardens - which likely needed to be picked up the next day to clear out the venue after the tournament, and
(B) that it had to be the exact same furniture that was being displayed.
I feel if the winner did not get their prizes then I feel like I was scalped as well. Ashley should have held onto the prize until either the winner picked it up or they instructed them to keep it.
I just bought a brand new living room set for my home in Houston, Texas and I can tell you there was one furniture seller who was not going to get my mula.:thumbup2:
Three months or three years - I am ashamed and appalled a furniture vendor at a major tournament would not make this right. Their employees worked the display, took cash and are responsible.
It is not the GWC promoters who should be racked on the coals on this one. It is the vendor.
I would not expect this behavior from furniture sellers such as Mattress Mack. You buy something from Mattress Mack and he guarantees delivery that day. (although my living room suite was not bought from Gallery Furniture either).
Can someone post an email for the local Ashley group and we start to email dissapointment including requests for some concrete answers?
I raffle items off all the time. I always make sure they get delivered properly.
This tournament had people from all over the world, to expect the winner to deliver it himself is ridiculous!!
They had winners and then they robbed em. Plain and simple. Made the winners low ball offers and if they refused they got squat.
I call BS.
Ray
This tournament had people from all over the world, to expect the winner to deliver it himself is ridiculous!!
They had winners and then they robbed em. Plain and simple. Made the winners low ball offers and if they refused they got squat.
I call BS.
Ray
One thing is for certain, if I was a rep for Ashley furniture and anyone from the world of billiards ever came to me asking for sponsorship to help the sport of pool again I would tell them to go suck a dick.
They donate some furniture to a sport that is hard pressed to get any sponsorship at the bequest of the promoters, and their donation of $8,000 of furniture that they themselves likely never saw again gets them raked over the coals because of the tournament promoters of a bloody pool tournament.
This is awesome for the sport, keep it up champs, don't quit until that last shovel full of dirt covers the corpse of this sport for good.
These products where not donated. Ashley furniture held the raffle at the event. Not the same thing.
Ray
So it was Ashley Furniture who was running said raffle.