Mitch Lawrence
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I agree
I agree. I think it was the format and the whole circus that made it look that way. I hoped no one outside the billiard comunity seen it. Butterflycues
sjm said:
I agree. I think it was the format and the whole circus that made it look that way. I hoped no one outside the billiard comunity seen it. Butterflycues
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As most of us know, and as Jay H has reiterated, pool is a major major sporting endeavor in other parts of the world. The quality and amount of the coverage of pool is superior because there is BIG cash money involved. Pool is televised on a regular basis and the interest in it goes beyond just those involved in the sport.
We have a large Filipino population here in SE Texas. The physicians assistant at my doctor is a Filipino. In passing, I asked him if he had ever heard of Efren Reyes and he went nutso. Called him "Bata", spewed out the stats on how many championships he had won, starting talking about Bustamente. This guy didn't even play pool !. It'll never be that way in the US but it sure is around the world.
Mitch Lawrence does a lot of work and commentating on instructional tapes in other sports. He did an entire series of tapes with a legendary golf instructor on which he did an outstanding job. Too bad Ewa wasn't there!
As most of us know, and as Jay H has reiterated, pool is a major major sporting endeavor in other parts of the world. The quality and amount of the coverage of pool is superior because there is BIG cash money involved. Pool is televised on a regular basis and the interest in it goes beyond just those involved in the sport.
We have a large Filipino population here in SE Texas. The physicians assistant at my doctor is a Filipino. In passing, I asked him if he had ever heard of Efren Reyes and he went nutso. Called him "Bata", spewed out the stats on how many championships he had won, starting talking about Bustamente. This guy didn't even play pool !. It'll never be that way in the US but it sure is around the world.
Mitch Lawrence does a lot of work and commentating on instructional tapes in other sports. He did an entire series of tapes with a legendary golf instructor on which he did an outstanding job. Too bad Ewa wasn't there!
This would be a prime example of why some of the bigger personalities don't post.
Well then I guess I was misinformed. Thanks.jay helfert said:
Mitchell Laurance isn't the "twit" here. The premise of the show was the culprit.
Being able to announce an event is actually quite difficult. You really need to be quick on your tongue to describe what's going on during a match and not to sound too repetitive.
Barbara
Being able to announce an event is actually quite difficult. You really need to be quick on your tongue to describe what's going on during a match and not to sound too repetitive.
Barbara
Ewa
Anyway, my buddy did the head turn thing and commented that she was easily the best looking woman he had seen all week. Even though he is an amateur pool player, he had no idea that she was a pool player. He thought she was in a show or something. LOL!!!
Her look, her walk, her entire being is simply elegant, stunning, classy, all of that.
And to the original post, Mitch isn't the greatest, but he's nowhere near the worst. Barry Tompkins might have that honor.
Fred
You got that right! Ewa is still a head spinner. A friend of mine and I were walking in the Riviera, and Ewa was walking by. She smiled at me. I like to think she recognized me, but it was probably that I had broccoli stuck in my teeth and she was trying not to laugh.catscradle said:
Anyway, my buddy did the head turn thing and commented that she was easily the best looking woman he had seen all week. Even though he is an amateur pool player, he had no idea that she was a pool player. He thought she was in a show or something. LOL!!!
Her look, her walk, her entire being is simply elegant, stunning, classy, all of that.
And to the original post, Mitch isn't the greatest, but he's nowhere near the worst. Barry Tompkins might have that honor.
Fred
Mitch is 'aight. But the Pool Party was just a bad bad bad bad bad bad bad idea to begin with. What a waste of valuable pool promotion air time.
The only annoying thing about Mitch is his overuse of the word "big" and "huge"...."That miss was huge, big, big, big." < Actual line he used once and you could hear him laugh just after that knowing he does overdo it...
My utopian commentary team would be Jay Helfert, Mark Wilson and Buddy Hall...
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My utopian commentary team would be Jay Helfert, Mark Wilson and Buddy Hall...
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jay helfert said:
Drawing this conclusion isn't really fair, at least not with respect to WPBA programming. The quality of the televised pro pool product, for the most part, has very little to do with ESPN production values.
The WPBA pays for its own productions. As WPBA tournament director Steve Tipton often notes, the ESPN annual budget for pool is zero. For the WPBA, having to fund their own productions with a fairly modest production budget limits the number of cameras and quality of the staff invloved in that production.
I have always felt and continue to feel that the WPBA productions are exceptional when considered in the context of the production budget. It's easy to overlook or forget that the WPBA foots the tab for pool on TV, paying for its productions and purchasing its programming hours.
To say that ESPN does a crappy job is inaccurate, as they simply show the WPBA-funded productions with which they have been provided. Writing to ESPN about this would not, at least as it relates to WPBA pool, have an impact.
Where ESPN does matter is that they control a) the number of total programing hours available for purchase by pro pool enterprises, and b) the hours during which pro pool is shown, and c) the number of times each televised event is shown (repeated). Pool is being shown in good time slots more and more these days, and I'm quite pleased about it, and I think ESPN deserves some credit for this.
What's interesting, besides all the stuff about the Lawrences, and I know Eva (personally) is a stand up person, but the big picture? Like Jay said, if the announcers were not good in Manila, or their mix was in need of something else change came about quickly.
One has to wonder how many people, applied, were interviewed and did demos before ML came on board. If history proves me right there was none of that done.
With the new perspective that the WPBA is proposidly taking I think the image/dialogue of their product (announcer) should be looked at as being asw important as the gals and the setting looking great, there are many important cogs in this package.
I look at NFL football, many of the announcers were pro players, many are not that good but some are excellent and add the feel/flavor of the sport within their dialogue. ML is not capabable of doing that (it not his fault) and being in such an "IMPORTANT" position that not only reflects what the WPBA is, but creates the "feel" of the event, they need to look elsewhere. Remember the PBT, they actually had it somewhat going in the announcing dept. they had a pro announcer that was 'evolving' and started to make it fun. Change is needed here for the sport, nothing more, it needs some SIZZLE, and what we have is still barely warm.
One has to wonder how many people, applied, were interviewed and did demos before ML came on board. If history proves me right there was none of that done.
With the new perspective that the WPBA is proposidly taking I think the image/dialogue of their product (announcer) should be looked at as being asw important as the gals and the setting looking great, there are many important cogs in this package.
I look at NFL football, many of the announcers were pro players, many are not that good but some are excellent and add the feel/flavor of the sport within their dialogue. ML is not capabable of doing that (it not his fault) and being in such an "IMPORTANT" position that not only reflects what the WPBA is, but creates the "feel" of the event, they need to look elsewhere. Remember the PBT, they actually had it somewhat going in the announcing dept. they had a pro announcer that was 'evolving' and started to make it fun. Change is needed here for the sport, nothing more, it needs some SIZZLE, and what we have is still barely warm.
Nostroke said:
Agree and done.
mitch is cooool!!!!!!! and i saw a vid of efren palm push shot and the announcer had a britt accent i think and he was funny as heck ....
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jay helfert said:
Jay,
I've tried to watch the WPBA on ESPN and I just can't sit and watch the match when the crowd applauds after every shot. A player can shoot a straight in 3 foot shot and the crowd claps like they just won the match. I can't take it so I just don't watch it. I can see an applause for a good tough shot, but clapping after every shot is rediculous and it just shows the audience's lack of knowledge of the game.
When they do show a Men's match it's cut up so bad that you don't see half of the match and it's not worth watching.
I personally don't think pool will ever be covered on TV well because there's no big time corporate sponsorship like the other sports have and since Don Mackey sued RJ Reynolds there probably never will be any big sponsorship, but this is just my opinion for what it's worth.