Mobile, AL Breakers Update.

cycopath

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I was actually hoping to see someone else's update here, but since there isn't any I'll post what I know.

8 players in $2000 a man ring game.

First out was Pablo Matheu, on table 1.
Next out was Larry Nevel on table 2.
Following him was Scotty Townsend on table 1.
Then Jeremy Jones on table 2.

At that time the final 4 players were combined on table 1.

Ronnie Wiseman
Jonathan Hennessee
Scott Frost
Charlie Bryant

That was 12:30am or so, and I have to work today, so I had to leave.

If anyone has anymore info please post it.

Thanks.
 
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Hennessee wins it

1. Hennessee
2. Scott Frost
3. Ronnie Wiseman

I believe the prizes were: 1st-$10k, 2nd- $4k, 3rd- $2k.

Out of the money: Hillbilly Bryant, Jeremy Jones, Scotty Townsend, Larry Nevel, and Pablo Maheu.

One couldn't have asked for a better field. I was impressed by Hillbilly's mastery of some sort of banking/kicking system he used. At one point he came to the table with only the 5, 6, 7, and 10-balls left. Unfortunately the only shot he had on the 5 was a table length cross-corner bank, shooting between the rail and the 6 ball, including tricky postition on the 6. He studied and measured the shot for 3-4 minutes, over and over, then froze in a very deliberate stance. He finally pulled the trigger, sending the 5 ball hard 7 feet away cross-corner, splitting the pocket, and drawing the CB 2 rails for perfect shape on the 6. Naturally, he got out.

To be honest, I'm not particularly interested in the big bar box tourney which they'll commence today (Sat.) at 1 P.M. The event does usually fill all 128 spots. However, with all the seasoned talent in the house, including Billy Incardona, Cliff Joyner, the above ring game participants, and a dozen young turks (e.g. Tater, Harold McAbee, "Mobile" David Trest, Lil Sal; there should be action a-plenty!!:cool: Where can one walk in off the street and watch the legendary Marshall "Squirrel" Carpenter locked up with a good local shortstop in some high dollar one-pocket? I think Marshall is 79 or 80, and he's still got the stroke he had at 50!

One notable absence: Lil John Macias. The weekend is "young", however...;)

More later. I'm sure Cyco and others will add on...

Doc
 
gulfportdoc said:
1. Hennessee
2. Scott Frost
3. Ronnie Wiseman

I believe the prizes were: 1st-$10k, 2nd- $4k, 3rd- $2k.

Out of the money: Hillbilly Bryant, Jeremy Jones, Scotty Townsend, Larry Nevel, and Pablo Maheu.

One couldn't have asked for a better field. I was impressed by Hillbilly's mastery of some sort of banking/kicking system he used. At one point he came to the table with only the 5, 6, 7, and 10-balls left. Unfortunately the only shot he had on the 5 was a table length cross-corner bank, shooting between the rail and the 6 ball, including tricky postition on the 6. He studied and measured the shot for 3-4 minutes, over and over, then froze in a very deliberate stance. He finally pulled the trigger, sending the 5 ball hard 7 feet away cross-corner, splitting the pocket, and drawing the CB 2 rails for perfect shape on the 6. Naturally, he got out.

To be honest, I'm not particularly interested in the big bar box tourney which they'll commence today (Sat.) at 1 P.M. The event does usually fill all 128 spots. However, with all the seasoned talent in the house, including Billy Incardona, Cliff Joyner, the above ring game participants, and a dozen young turks (e.g. Tater, Harold McAbee, "Mobile" David Trest, Lil Sal; there should be action a-plenty!!:cool: Where can one walk in off the street and watch the legendary Marshall "Squirrel" Carpenter locked up with a good local shortstop in some high dollar one-pocket? I think Marshall is 79 or 80, and he's still got the stroke he had at 50!

One notable absence: Lil John Macias. The weekend is "young", however...;)

More later. I'm sure Cyco and others will add on...

Doc
Man, we gotta get to Mobile.
 
correction

Doc-- Not that it matters--the right people got their money but-

For the record the results were:

1. Hennessee
2. Ronnie Wiseman
3. Scott Frost

And WOW!

What a description of that shot by "Hillbilly"

You rock Doc-almost as good as that rap last nite.

mobile-george
gulfportdoc said:
1. Hennessee
2. Scott Frost
3. Ronnie Wiseman

I believe the prizes were: 1st-$10k, 2nd- $4k, 3rd- $2k.

Out of the money: Hillbilly Bryant, Jeremy Jones, Scotty Townsend, Larry Nevel, and Pablo Maheu.

One couldn't have asked for a better field. I was impressed by Hillbilly's mastery of some sort of banking/kicking system he used. At one point he came to the table with only the 5, 6, 7, and 10-balls left. Unfortunately the only shot he had on the 5 was a table length cross-corner bank, shooting between the rail and the 6 ball, including tricky postition on the 6. He studied and measured the shot for 3-4 minutes, over and over, then froze in a very deliberate stance. He finally pulled the trigger, sending the 5 ball hard 7 feet away cross-corner, splitting the pocket, and drawing the CB 2 rails for perfect shape on the 6. Naturally, he got out.

To be honest, I'm not particularly interested in the big bar box tourney which they'll commence today (Sat.) at 1 P.M. The event does usually fill all 128 spots. However, with all the seasoned talent in the house, including Billy Incardona, Cliff Joyner, the above ring game participants, and a dozen young turks (e.g. Tater, Harold McAbee, "Mobile" David Trest, Lil Sal; there should be action a-plenty!!:cool: Where can one walk in off the street and watch the legendary Marshall "Squirrel" Carpenter locked up with a good local shortstop in some high dollar one-pocket? I think Marshall is 79 or 80, and he's still got the stroke he had at 50!

One notable absence: Lil John Macias. The weekend is "young", however...;)

More later. I'm sure Cyco and others will add on...

Doc
 
thanks

gulfportdoc said:
1. Hennessee
2. Scott Frost
3. Ronnie Wiseman

I believe the prizes were: 1st-$10k, 2nd- $4k, 3rd- $2k.

Out of the money: Hillbilly Bryant, Jeremy Jones, Scotty Townsend, Larry Nevel, and Pablo Maheu.

One couldn't have asked for a better field. I was impressed by Hillbilly's mastery of some sort of banking/kicking system he used. At one point he came to the table with only the 5, 6, 7, and 10-balls left. Unfortunately the only shot he had on the 5 was a table length cross-corner bank, shooting between the rail and the 6 ball, including tricky postition on the 6. He studied and measured the shot for 3-4 minutes, over and over, then froze in a very deliberate stance. He finally pulled the trigger, sending the 5 ball hard 7 feet away cross-corner, splitting the pocket, and drawing the CB 2 rails for perfect shape on the 6. Naturally, he got out.

To be honest, I'm not particularly interested in the big bar box tourney which they'll commence today (Sat.) at 1 P.M. The event does usually fill all 128 spots. However, with all the seasoned talent in the house, including Billy Incardona, Cliff Joyner, the above ring game participants, and a dozen young turks (e.g. Tater, Harold McAbee, "Mobile" David Trest, Lil Sal; there should be action a-plenty!!:cool: Where can one walk in off the street and watch the legendary Marshall "Squirrel" Carpenter locked up with a good local shortstop in some high dollar one-pocket? I think Marshall is 79 or 80, and he's still got the stroke he had at 50!

One notable absence: Lil John Macias. The weekend is "young", however...;)

More later. I'm sure Cyco and others will add on...

Doc
thanks [doc]for the update, sounds like a barn burner to me wish i was there. STICK:D
 
gulfportdoc said:
1. Hennessee
2. Scott Frost
3. Ronnie Wiseman

I believe the prizes were: 1st-$10k, 2nd- $4k, 3rd- $2k.

Out of the money: Hillbilly Bryant, Jeremy Jones, Scotty Townsend, Larry Nevel, and Pablo Maheu.

One couldn't have asked for a better field. I was impressed by Hillbilly's mastery of some sort of banking/kicking system he used. At one point he came to the table with only the 5, 6, 7, and 10-balls left. Unfortunately the only shot he had on the 5 was a table length cross-corner bank, shooting between the rail and the 6 ball, including tricky postition on the 6. He studied and measured the shot for 3-4 minutes, over and over, then froze in a very deliberate stance. He finally pulled the trigger, sending the 5 ball hard 7 feet away cross-corner, splitting the pocket, and drawing the CB 2 rails for perfect shape on the 6. Naturally, he got out.

To be honest, I'm not particularly interested in the big bar box tourney which they'll commence today (Sat.) at 1 P.M. The event does usually fill all 128 spots. However, with all the seasoned talent in the house, including Billy Incardona, Cliff Joyner, the above ring game participants, and a dozen young turks (e.g. Tater, Harold McAbee, "Mobile" David Trest, Lil Sal; there should be action a-plenty!!:cool: Where can one walk in off the street and watch the legendary Marshall "Squirrel" Carpenter locked up with a good local shortstop in some high dollar one-pocket? I think Marshall is 79 or 80, and he's still got the stroke he had at 50!

One notable absence: Lil John Macias. The weekend is "young", however...;)

More later. I'm sure Cyco and others will add on...

Doc

well, speak of the devil . i just started a thread wondering where this guy was and i see he's in mobile . lol

as the old folks would say, cliff will live a long time .
 
Strong field - JR Davis, Wiseman, Justin Hall, Bergman, Benny Conway, Vilmont, Joyner, Hennessee, Hilliard, Abood, Clint McCullough, Nevel, Townsend, Bryant, Raulston, Will Pay, Jeremy Jones.

My apologies if I left any champions off the list, just did a quick look thru.

I talked to Justin B. tonight about 8PM Central. He still had not played his first match. Sounds like they got a much bigger turnout than they expected. Tournament is suppose to be over tomorrow. Looks like they will have to either start real early or play thru the night.
 
watchez said:
Strong field - JR Davis, Wiseman, Justin Hall, Bergman, Benny Conway, Vilmont, Joyner, Hennessee, Hilliard, Abood, Clint McCullough, Nevel, Townsend, Bryant, Raulston, Will Pay, Jeremy Jones.

My apologies if I left any champions off the list, just did a quick look thru.

I talked to Justin B. tonight about 8PM Central. He still had not played his first match. Sounds like they got a much bigger turnout than they expected. Tournament is suppose to be over tomorrow. Looks like they will have to either start real early or play thru the night.


I have been to a few there and playing through the night was common.
I dont know if they added tables or not. Always action. One of the best events to attend as a railbird if you like sidebets and action.
 
frankncali said:
I have been to a few there and playing through the night was common.
I dont know if they added tables or not. Always action. One of the best events to attend as a railbird if you like sidebets and action.

Yep, I was having trouble hearing him because I was at the baseball game but I think I was told that Frost/Incardona were playing $400 a game somehow.
 
watchez said:
Yep, I was having trouble hearing him because I was at the baseball game but I think I was told that Frost/Incardona were playing $400 a game somehow.

Last time I was there I was getting tired but was in with my buddy Stoney.
I couldnt take it and left for about 6 hours. We were up $200 when I left playing $200 a set. When I came back we had won 1200. I was nice and fresh and Stoney looked like crap. I felt bad and gave him a juicy cut.
He then proceeded to get into more action betting $400 a set I think. I know at one point there was about $1500 a set bet between the railbirds.
A couple of times they stopped him and made him wait to get the bets down. We ended up winning but I think a couple guys on the rail really made out.
Its a fun time. Wish I still lived back there.

Last time I was there Jew Paul was there. We had quite an interesting
conversation. The guy is funny and from what I heard used to really really bet it up. He told me that he has lost 20+ mil gambling on pool. He chuckled and said that he has won a bunch too.
I got the feeling that he doesnt get trapped that often now if ever.
 
watchez said:
Yep, I was having trouble hearing him because I was at the baseball game but I think I was told that Frost/Incardona were playing $400 a game somehow.
That's correct, Watchez. The Incardona/Frost matchup was this: $400 per game one-pocket. Billy got 10-8 and the breaks. After his break he was allowed to pick up any ball of his choosing and place it on the footspot (or below, as in spotting a ball after a foul). My rough guess is that this proposition matchup would be similar to 10-6; maybe more.

Their first episode at this spot ended with Billy up two games. There was then a break in the contest, as Frost had to play a tournament match. When they resumed, Scott went on a tear of about 8-9 wins. Billy then said he was done unless they switched to a tighter table. So after a lot of posturing and arranging of other guy's sets in progress, they commenced again; same game. When I left at 12:30 A.M. this morning (Sunday), I believe Scott was up 1-2 games.

HOWEVER, during the break, while Billy had been cooling off and finding solace with several "Yes" men, Joyner sidles over, there's a short exchange, and Frost and Joyner agreed to play! 50 guys knew about it instantly!:D I immediately quashed all notions of going home.

As it happened, after the usual mulling about by both parties, Joyner came back to the table and announced, "I have to wait." No explanation. Whether he had a match coming up, or he couldn't get the right backing.....dunno. This is the match everyone is hoping for. Perhaps they played later, or hopefully, today. I suspect that the match will get down, however.

I have to say that it's hard to imagine many more than a few players who could withstand Frost's withering assault of shot-making. The only guy I've personally witnessed with that kind of mind-numbing firepower was Ronnie Allen in the late 1960's. Frost slaps balls in from anywhere with abandon. He fires in long banks with CB shape as if they were hanger cross-side banks.
At one point, Billy walked over and said, "He's playing perfect one-pocket."

And Billy doesn't rattle. He keeps on steam rolling with his usual strong game. But, sitting 4 feet away watching Frost's 1P wizzardry, I realized that probably no one is capable of prevailing over him these days. I had earlier congratulated him on his great play against Efren. He was honestly appreciative. Then he said: "I'll play anyone on the planet even one-pocket for $20,000."

While that was going on, there was a nice matchup between Tater (J. Tedder) and Lil Sam G. from north Mississippi. Race to 21 for 2 bags. I had a little piece of that one. When I left, Sam was up 13-8, and he probably went on to win. I suspect several sets ensued. Will find out today.

Marshall, "Tuscaloosa Squirrel" Carpenter was locked in a long set with a local shortstop; "Downtown " Eddie Brown-- "The Mystery Man" was in action: Harold "SmackMac" MacAbee hadn't left an action table in two days; Jason Moran from Gulfport, Miss. played lots of sets with several guys;Lil Sal and Joey Barnes were lurking, trying to match up; and Larry Nevel and several other top guns were running in frequently to see what was going on.

The toy table tournament finally lurched to a start at about 5 P.M. Saturday, so it'll be another coffee and cigarette marathon for the players.:rolleyes: Did I like that kind of cheap, noisy, nervous energy when I was 25? You bet yo ass I did!!! More later...

Doc
 
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gulfportdoc said:
That's correct, Watchez. The Incardona/Frost matchup was this: $400 per game one-pocket. Billy got 10-8 and the breaks. After his break he was allowed to pick up any ball of his choosing and place it on the footspot (or below, as in spotting a ball after a foul). My rough guess is that this proposition matchup would be similar to 10-6; maybe more.

That's about right. Sounds like a game we used to play in my neck of the woods called One Hit and a Pick or Two Hit and a Pick, depending on how many balls are spotted. 10 to 8, getting the break, in addition to One Hit and the Pick is HUGE. Billy gets to move a ball to where Scott can't do anything. It is similar to 10 to 6.

Scott knows how to move pretty doggone good. That's for sure.

I am interested in the outcome of this match, as well as the tournament results. Each year, this event seems to fly under the radar, yet produces the BEST action in the country. That's why they call it Beautiful Dixie! :wink:
 
gulfportdoc said:
That's correct, Watchez. The Incardona/Frost matchup was this: $400 per game one-pocket. Billy got 10-8 and the breaks. After his break he was allowed to pick up any ball of his choosing and place it on the footspot (or below, as in spotting a ball after a foul). My rough guess is that this proposition matchup would be similar to 10-6; maybe more.

Their first episode at this spot ended with Billy up two games. There was then a break in the contest, as Frost had to play a tournament match. When they resumed, Scott went on a tear of about 8-9 wins. Billy then said he was done unless they switched to a tighter table. So after a lot of posturing and arranging of other guy's sets in progress, they commenced again; same game. When I left at 12:30 A.M. this morning (Sunday), I believe Scott was up 1-2 games.

HOWEVER, during the break, while Billy had been cooling off and finding solace with several "Yes" men, Joyner sidles over, there's a short exchange, and Frost and Joyner agreed to play! 50 guys knew about it instantly!:D I immediately quashed all notions of going home.

As it happened, after the usual mulling about by both parties, Joyner came back to the table and announced, "I have to wait." No explanation. Whether he had a match coming up, or he couldn't get the right backing.....dunno. This is the match everyone is hoping for. Perhaps they played later, or hopefully, today. I suspect that the match will get down, however.

I have to say that it's hard to imagine many more than a few players who could withstand Frost's withering assault of shot-making. The only guy I've personally witnessed with that kind of mind-numbing firepower was Ronnie Allen in the late 1960's. Frost slaps balls in from anywhere with abandon. He fires in long banks with CB shape as if they were hanger cross-side banks.
At one point, Billy walked over and said, "He's playing perfect one-pocket."

And Billy doesn't rattle. He keeps on steam rolling with his usual strong game. But, sitting 4 feet away watching Frost's 1P wizzardry, I realized that probably no one is capable of prevailing over him these days. I had earlier congratulated him on his great play against Efren. He was honestly appreciative. Then he said: "I'll play anyone on the planet even one-pocket for $20,000."

While that was going on, there was a nice matchup between Tater (J. Tedder) and Lil Sam G. from north Mississippi. Race to 21 for 2 bags. I had a little piece of that one. When I left, Sam was up 13-8, and he probably went on to win. I suspect several sets ensued. Will find out today.

Marshall, "Tuscaloosa Squirrel" Carpenter was locked in a long set with a local shortstop; "Downtown " Eddie Brown-- "The Mystery Man" was in action: Harold "SmackMac" MacAbee hadn't left an action table in two days; Jason Moran from Gulfport, Miss. played lots of sets with several guys;Lil Sal and Joey Barnes were lurking, trying to match up; and Larry Nevel and several other top guns were running in frequently to see what was going on.

The toy table tournament finally lurched to a start at about 5 P.M. Saturday, so it'll be another coffee and cigarette marathon for the players.:rolleyes: Did I like that kind of cheap, noisy, nervous energy when I was 25? You bet yo ass I did!!! More later...

Doc


Thanks Doc for the great writeup !!
 
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