Mosconi Cup 2021 Day 3 Updates

VVP

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If JJ won it would have been 8 to 6...they would have played the fans choice match because if not tomorrow could go as long as 7sets
Do you think it is impossible for tomorrow to go as long as 7 sets mathematically??
 

penguin

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Ahhh. Nope.. JJ played the last match of the day and Shane was in the practice room by himself...

He was having a moment to himself (the entire match) while the rest of the team was out supporting JJ! No need to say more about that............
Shane didn't get to where he is by having friends.
 

ChrisinNC

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I thought JJ played well. I am guessing he has not been playing huge tournaments for a while. I can only imagine adrenaline was absolutely cranking at that point, and he made a mental error. I think the moment got away from him. Maybe the ball was dirty. Maybe he was looking to calm the nerves a little. Who knows. Bottom line, I bet he knows the rule, and simply was caught up in the enormous moment.
Entirely JJ’s blunder. The shot clock had ticked down from 30 to 12 before he even asked for the referee to clean the cue ball. If it’s a player that prefers a clean cue ball before such a crucial shot, that should’ve been the first thing he checked and asked for when he first came to the table when the shot clock was still over 25 seconds.

Having already used up his extension, it was too late at that point, as the cue ball cleaning was going to take nearly 10 seconds.

What is hard to figure out is how he acted and who he approached questioning the ruling, after the foul was called. Clearly JJ was not aware of the rule that the clock does not stop for a request for the referee to clean the cue ball. I’m sure he feels awful about it, especially being the captain.
 
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The_JV

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I knew this thread would be soaking in hate for the ref/rules and a healthy helping of teflon for JJ when I came back to it. I haven't used the :ROFLMAO: icon so much in my life while reading the posts over the last few pages.

JJ played fantasic imo. Really should have been blown out of the water. Nothing more than a mental error trying to calm his nerves I think. Shame as it will haunt him for a long while I'm sure.
 

rexus31

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If Shane showed up today it would be a much easier pill to swallow and we'd be looking at 7-7 heading into the final day. Possibly 8-7 either way with the Fan's Choice doubles match.
 

skip100

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If there's any anticompetitive hanky-panky from Matchroom tomorrow (unlikely to say the least) it would be to extend the event to an extra day, not close it out for Europe.
 

Black-Balled

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Anyone know the rule that specifies the difference between JJ's situation (no clock stoppage) and Shaw's situation yesterday (clock stopped). The only difference appears to be that Shaw complained about a bug on the 9ball, not on the cue ball. And that Shaw had a lot of time left (25 seconds) when he called for the cleaning.

Interesting.

Good point.
 

Jack Fate

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Question? I’d like to see a official detailed rules for this event in print .

I ask this due to the fact a saw another player ask for a ball cleaned ( more than once ,Jason & alcaide) the clock was stopped & didn’t see them charged for a extension.
I’m not perfect & I could be wrong
So if I get this right:
If you ask for a ball cleaned you must have an extension & you then the clock stops but you will not be charged with a time-out
If you don’t have a time-out the clock doesn’t stop

I do understand this could be a ploy to get a freebie time-out but I’ve never heard of this
And I can’t find any rules to state this

So if this is true then you should never call extension & should ask for a ball to be cleaned thus giving you extra time

Then again detailed rules in print might be good depending?
 

dkleather

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I think SVB as USA top player probably feels it is more important to try to get his game in shape than to cheer and high 5.
 

briankenobi

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I think SVB as USA top player probably feels it is more important to try to get his game in shape than to cheer and high 5.
It would be interesting to know when the call was made to make the JJ match the last match. If they made that call after Shane went to the practice room and no one told him, then it makes sense why he was not there because he would have had the next match.
 

Slasher

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It would be interesting to know when the call was made to make the JJ match the last match. If they made that call after Shane went to the practice room and no one told him, then it makes sense why he was not there because he would have had the next match.
Match 15 was always showing for Friday when match 14 was under way, I posted the live score back on page 7 when they were 3 racks in.
 

Chili Palmer

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It would be interesting to know when the call was made to make the JJ match the last match. If they made that call after Shane went to the practice room and no one told him, then it makes sense why he was not there because he would have had the next match.

Match 15 was always showing for Friday when match 14 was under way, I posted the live score back on page 7 when they were 3 racks in.

I can't imagine they would've canceled it as long as JJ had a chance to win.
 
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