Mr. Mark Griffin & Mr. Bill Stork

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I agree with your suggestion that making threats does not help any situation. But that does not explain why he was kicked out. It suggests what he should not do if he has a suggestion. And McConnell is past taking ideas for how to approach MG with his suggestions. Right now McConnell is searching for a better explanation than the one given to him.

I agree. That's why when we get two different answers from refs about the same situation, we go up the head ref.

Well, kinda similar. :)
 
Are you serious??? You said nothing like that at any point in this thread. From the word go you have been posting about MG and never at any point acknowledged that his ban originated from a request by his own LO and was done by BS....not MG.

Yes sir.

justnum has been back tracking the whole way after bashing MG.
 
All this over calling the nine? :rolleyes:
 

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Dear justnum,
I fully agree with you. New members are not so scary they have an unknown history that makes them so. On the otherhand the seasoned player knows the rules and loves and is prepared to defend them and is prepared to attempt to enforce them thereby requiring additional time constraints on everyone in the office. And we all know that time is money! In response to your other thread. Not so much as a how do you do, which goes along with my written statement no one was ever bothered in any way what so ever during or before the petitioning unless you are calling my postings on the bulletin board as distractions, I'm not responsible for the players actions or time.

It is clear the BCAPL is not interested in customer service issues. Happens with startups they want new people and lose the loyal brand customers.
 
Dear justnum,
I fully agree with you. New members are not so scary they have an unknown history that makes them so. On the otherhand the seasoned player knows the rules and loves and is prepared to defend them and is prepared to attempt to enforce them thereby requiring additional time constraints on everyone in the office. And we all know that time is money! In response to your other thread. Not so much as a how do you do, which goes along with my written statement no one was ever bothered in any way what so ever during or before the petitioning unless you are calling my postings on the bulletin board as distractions, I'm not responsible for the players actions or time.

Knowing Mark Griffin as well as I do, I hope you're not holding your breath waiting for a response from him here on AZ;) As a private business owner...in which he is of the BCAPL....he don't have to...or need to respond to this kind of attention....and a petition to a privately owned business....though it may make you feel like you have some sort of power with the results of it....mean nothing...if the owner is not interested in your proposed changes....and therefore is NOT required to take action in your favor. The best thing you can do...as it's been sugested....is to find another league to play in...and be happy playing there.

Glen
 
This has got to be one of the silliest threads ever posted on AZB. I can't believe I was stupid enough to waste as much time as I did by reading the whole thing. Well...maybe I can. :o

Roger
 
This has got to be one of the silliest threads ever posted on AZB. I can't believe I was stupid enough to waste as much time as I did by reading the whole thing. Well...maybe I can. :o

Roger

Hey Roger, you wanna play some call nine or no call nine? Haha
At least this isn't an APA thread! Oh NO I di-ent say that!!!!

This is silly. I should be getting more work done! :)
 
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Dear Jason,

You're right it is a business and as such is responsible for truth in advertising, go to their Web-Site, read, and see if you agree that they are obeying their own rules, be honest now! They are responsible for their written material because prospective players may be attempting to make a informed decision about their future time spent playing the game that they love!

I don't believe I have ever read anywhere in they BCA's rules that they will or have to change rules because of a petition. As others have said, if you don't like the rules find another league or start your own.

This is not a democracy, it is a business. In business, the owner is the dictator. In this case, dictating the rules.
 
Dear Jason,
I suppose you're right as far as you go, but become aware that the laws of this country make fraud a crime punishable by fine or prison time and those laws do apply here and perhaps they should be on trial for false advertising, fraud and violation of an implied contract.

I think this is going to be an unlucky #13 post for Mr. C. Carl McConnell.

Carl you are not on trial and they have a right to ban you for what ever reason.
If your rights under the constitution have been violated, then you would have a right to a fair trial. The same rules do not apply here.

You do have the right to remain silent, although you may not have the ability.
 
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I suppose you're right as far as you go, but become aware that the laws of this country make fraud a crime punishable by fine or prison time and those laws do apply here and perhaps they should be on trial for false advertising, fraud and violation of an implied contract.

I think this is going to be an unlucky #13 post for Mr. C. Carl McConnell.

Carl you are not on trial and they have a right to ban you for what ever reason.
If your rights under the constitution have been violated, then you would have a right to a fair trial. The same rules do not apply here.

You do have the right to remain silent, although you may not have the ability.
 
C. Carl,

If you really think there has been a crime committed between you and the BCAPL, go to your local police and file a complaint. Take some real action, instead of this drivel posting.

If you aren't happy with that, get a lawyer.

You cannot, repeat, cannot win this argument on AZBilliards. Too many members in this forum will, and have, support the BCAPL and Mark Griffin and Bill Stock.

You have wasted your time and a lot of others with you feeble plea for attention because you didn't get your way when you constantly complained.

BCAPL=60000+ C. Carl = 0
 
The next nearest league is 60 miles and a ferry ride away. And yes it is and would be appreciated if my business was outside the legal requirements. You can encourage Mark to do anything that you wish but read the rules on his Web-Site first and see if they describe his business as you understand it, remember that you are trying to make a decision about wheather or not you wish to spend or waste you time doing as the Web-Site describes.

So you don't like the rules? Then find another league to play in. Is it ok for someone to come into your business and tell you how to run it or which rules and regulations should and shouldn't be changed? I love how fanatical people get over pool league. I get the feeling this post is going to hurt you alot more than its going to help.

I encourage Mark to not even respond to this post, as the e-mails above actually do a perfectly fine job of defending the decision to ban Mr. McConnell.

Edit: Posting it twice in the main forum isn't too bright either.
 
You can encourage Mark to do anything that you wish...
Thanks for your permission. And yes, I continue to recommend that Mark stay out of this thread as there is no need for him to respond to you and your big bag of crazy. This forum is full of knowledgeable and extremely intelligent individuals, many posting in this thread saying you're wrong. Now i'm a stubborn SOB, but if that many smart and respected people told me i'm wrong, I'd like to think I'd listen to them. I mean come on, who gets tossed out of pool league? That should tell you something about yourself. If someone came up to me with a petition about a rule in POOL LEAGUE, i'd have to look at you like your nuts for choosing this as the "cause" to get your panties in a bunch about. Its his business and they chose to no longer serve you as a customer, end of story.
 
do you think that a business owner has to abide by rules posted on his website???lol

The next nearest league is 60 miles and a ferry ride away. And yes it is and would be appreciated if my business was outside the legal requirements. You can encourage Mark to do anything that you wish but read the rules on his Web-Site first and see if they describe his business as you understand it, remember that you are trying to make a decision about wheather or not you wish to spend or waste you time doing as the Web-Site describes.

Wow, this one has me literally loling....

Let's say for a second that you're right. Let's say that the "rules" (it sounds more like your referring to a mission statement) are different than what is practiced. Do you think that a business owner has to follow them??? An owner of a company makes those guidelines or rules or mission statements and can change them whenever they like.

You don't have to like it, agree with it, or attempt to snort it up your nose, you have absolutely NO recourse but to accept it.

You see that the recourse that you attempted didn't achieve your desired result and all the belly aching in the world is not going to change anyone's opinion on the character of Mark Griffin.... He has shown time and time again that he has astounding character and only cares for the success of billiards.

So thanks for the laughs and grow up a little... geez...

Jaden
 
I suppose you're right as far as you go, but become aware that the laws of this country make fraud a crime punishable by fine or prison time and those laws do apply here and perhaps they should be on trial for false advertising, fraud and violation of an implied contract.
And that is exactly why you are banned.

P.S. I have downgraded you from Troublemaker to Idiot. According to my by-laws I am well within my rights to do this.
 
"blather"

Carl, BLATHER means NONSENSE.

That pretty much sums up your complaint.

Scott Lee's first response should have ended this thread; too bad it did not.

RL
 
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