My lists of greatest players

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The Luther Lassiter thread got me thinking of how subjective it is to compare players of different eras. We all view this game with our own eyes, from our own point of view. We all have different influences, experiences, and we have all witnessed different players do different things at different times. This is just my opinion from the way that I have seen things over the years. Your views may differ and I respect that. I thought it would be fun to break down the way I have seen things develop over the years and why I have chosen to put these people on my lists.

Shotmakers
I had the opportunity to see Luther Lassiter play 9 ball and straight pool. He was unbelievably good, although his patterns, routes, shot selection made you scratch your head. His shotmaking was something not from this world, so he could afford that in his game, and history speaks for itself, as do Wimpy's acomplishments. He was an awesome shotmaker.

Corey Deuel is another guy that can take a 8 foot long backward cut jump shot - make it - then draw the cue ball the length of the table on the same shot. It boggles the mind.

I never saw Louie Roberts face a shot or situation that he wouldn't figure out. He could bank, cut, kick, or spin any shot - and he was simply fearless. Nobody before or since has had the balls that Louie had when playing the game of pool.

My top 5 great shotmakers of all-time
Luther Lassiter
Corey Deuel
Louie Roberts
Efren Reyes
Earl Strickland

Straight Pool
I grew up in the era of Mizerak, Sigel, Rempe, and West. I idolized all of these guys long before they were ever considered Hall of Famers. All of them were special, and all of them could beat the other on any given day at any given game.

Straight pool was also a game that Lassiter played extremely well. He was without a doubt an exciting player to watch because of his shotmaking ability, and his ability to get himself out of trouble with it. Being a straight pool purist, I was drawn away from that by the perfection displayed by the other greats - such as Mizerak, Butera, Rempe, Margo, and Nagy.

I had the opportunity to see Irving Crane play many times. I never saw him make a bad shot or a bad decision. He was quite possibly the smartest player to ever play the game of pool. He was definitely one of the best I ever saw.

Sometimes, we must judge people not on how many trophies that they won, but by how many lives they affected by their pure love for the game. That is why Gene Nagy is on my list. He was one hell of a player, and quite possibly the best teacher in the game's history.

Anybody that never got the opportunity to watch Mike Eufemia run balls in 14.1 - you missed out on seeing quite possibly the best straight pool ever played (IMO). Mike didn't have a lot of trphies to show for it, nor will his run ever receive the proper recognition that it deserves, but Mike Eufemia is one of the greatest players to ever play the game of straight pool.

My top 5 Straight Pool players of all time
Willie Mosconi
Steve Mizerak
Irving Crane
Gene Nagy
Mike Eufemia

9 Ball
Louie Roberts was a 9 ball genius. Like I said earlier, nothing intimidated Louie - at the table he was 8 feet tall and bullet proof. He was probably the most perfect 9 ball player I ever saw, with the exception of 1 other player - Buddy Hall.

Buddy's position play, cue ball control, shot selection, and never say die attitude was an awesome sight to behold for those of us that were fortunate to see it when he was in his prime. Buddy Hall was my hero when I was learning the game. I would watch him play for hours on end, studying everything that he did, and I learned why he made the choices that he did.

Mike Sigel came along, and it seemed that in professional tournament pool, that he was virtually unstoppable. Then Earl came along. Mike and Earl were 1 & 2 consistently throughout the 1980's - that ended when Nick Varner went on a tear in 1989 and 1990.

Along came Johnny Archer, but in the distance was this guy named Efren - and I noticed the pool world changing. It started to have an international flair with players converging on the US tours from Europe and Asia. Guys like Souquet, Chao, Bustamante, Engert, and Ortmann... the fields grew tougher and tougher.

In this "new" pool world, 1 guy reigned as the king, and we call him "The Magician". I've seen every player from Carella to Deuel, from Lassiter to Van Boening, from Mosconi to Strickland, from Jimmy Moore to Keith McCready. In my opinion, Efren has this extra quality about him that will always separate him from his peers. Efren has not won a lot of World Championships. Efren has not won a handful of U.S. Opens. Efren has won our respect and our admiration, and he has won our hearts with his humility and his humanity. He is definitely, without a doubt the best that I have ever seen.

My top 5 Nine Ball Players of All time
Buddy Hall
Earl Strickland
Luther Lassiter
Efren Reyes
Nick Varner

Money Players
Here is another thing that is also very subjective, but when looking at history, nobody was better than Don Willis. A world class player that stayed under the radar for years - and is widely regarded as possibly the best pure hustler in the history of the game.

Keith McCready is a living legend among mere mortals in today's world of modern pool. Keith was bold and brash, loud and boisterous, but he also had the balls, the brains, and the ability to back it all up. The World did get the 8 when it came to playing Keith ANY game for money on ANY size table. A rare type of player with ugly mechanics - however I dare any instructor out there to use their text book mechanics and have the cue ball move as smoothly as it does for Keith. Sorry. There is a such thing as "God-given ability". That can't be taught, and you still get the 8.

I was sneaking around Memphis back in the days when Buddy Hall was ruling the land. I can never recall anyone taking Buddy down (somebody please correct me if I am wrong) but Buddy ruled the land for a very very long time.

UJ Puckett was great guy with a lot of great stories of the road. I wish I had written down a lot of the stories that he told me, he certainly lived his life to the fullest and enjoyed every bit of it. He is one of the players of the past that I miss the most.

My top 5 Money Players
Don Willis
Keith McCready
UJ Puckett
Ronnie Allen
Jose Parica

When comparing eras, everything is subjective. Pool is a different game than it was back in the days of Lassiter, Balsis, and Moore. It takes nothing away from their accomplishments. I am sure that all of the greats from that era would be major forces to be dealt with on the tables of today. However, if I were to send Efren back in time to the era of Johnston City, I am positive that he would have still ruled as king. He is my favorite player of all-time.

Mike Carella was a great player that just had too many distractions away from the table. His life was cut short by those distractions, and God only knows how far he could have gone with his talent if he had made better decisions in his life. He was fun to watch, fun to hang out with, and he was definitely world class.

Most everything I have learned about pool has come directly from Cisero Murphy. He not only taught me how to play this game, he touched my life and sent me in a positive direction at a time when I was definitely not willing to do so. I was blessed by our friendship, and I have been blessed by everything he taught me about pool and about life. Not a day goes by where I don't thank the man upstairs for everything Cisero brought to my life.

My 5 favorite players of all-time
Efren Reyes
Buddy Hall
Cisero Murphy
Louie Roberts
Mike Carella

Those are my lists - and I won't change my mind about any of them because its how I see it - but I'm interested in seeing the lists of others and hearing why those people make your list.
 
My Tops

Shotmaker: Reyes
(Never saw Lassiter get into a jam)

Straight Pool: Johnny Ervolino
(Best patterns and knowledge IMO)

9-Ball: Sigel
(He made it look effortless. He is also Efren's pick!)

One Pocket: Danny DiLiberto

Gambler: Toby Sweet

Legends: Lassiter, Willis, Jimmy Moore

Overall favorites: Jim Rempe
Thorsten Hohmann
 
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Blackjack said:
The Luther Lassiter thread got me thinking of how subjective it is to compare players of different eras. We all view this game with our own eyes, from our own point of view. We all have different influences, experiences, and we have all witnessed different players do different things at different times. This is just my opinion from the way that I have seen things over the years. Your views may differ and I respect that. I thought it would be fun to break down the way I have seen things develop over the years and why I have chosen to put these people on my lists.

Shotmakers
I had the opportunity to see Luther Lassiter play 9 ball and straight pool. He was unbelievably good, although his patterns, routes, shot selection made you scratch your head. His shotmaking was something not from this world, so he could afford that in his game, and history speaks for itself, as do Wimpy's acomplishments. He was an awesome shotmaker.

Corey Deuel is another guy that can take a 8 foot long backward cut jump shot - make it - then draw the cue ball the length of the table on the same shot. It boggles the mind.

I never saw Louie Roberts face a shot or situation that he wouldn't figure out. He could bank, cut, kick, or spin any shot - and he was simply fearless. Nobody before or since has had the balls that Louie had when playing the game of pool.

My top 5 great shotmakers of all-time
Luther Lassiter
Corey Deuel
Louie Roberts
Efren Reyes
Earl Strickland

Straight Pool
I grew up in the era of Mizerak, Sigel, Rempe, and West. I idolized all of these guys long before they were ever considered Hall of Famers. All of them were special, and all of them could beat the other on any given day at any given game.

Straight pool was also a game that Lassiter played extremely well. He was without a doubt an exciting player to watch because of his shotmaking ability, and his ability to get himself out of trouble with it. Being a straight pool purist, I was drawn away from that by the perfection displayed by the other greats - such as Mizerak, Butera, Rempe, Margo, and Nagy.

I had the opportunity to see Irving Crane play many times. I never saw him make a bad shot or a bad decision. He was quite possibly the smartest player to ever play the game of pool. He was definitely one of the best I ever saw.

Sometimes, we must judge people not on how many trophies that they won, but by how many lives they affected by their pure love for the game. That is why Gene Nagy is on my list. He was one hell of a player, and quite possibly the best teacher in the game's history.

Anybody that never got the opportunity to watch Mike Eufemia run balls in 14.1 - you missed out on seeing quite possibly the best straight pool ever played (IMO). Mike didn't have a lot of trphies to show for it, nor will his run ever receive the proper recognition that it deserves, but Mike Eufemia is one of the greatest players to ever play the game of straight pool.

My top 5 Straight Pool players of all time
Willie Mosconi
Steve Mizerak
Irving Crane
Gene Nagy
Mike Eufemia

9 Ball
Louie Roberts was a 9 ball genius. Like I said earlier, nothing intimidated Louie - at the table he was 8 feet tall and bullet proof. He was probably the most perfect 9 ball player I ever saw, with the exception of 1 other player - Buddy Hall.

Buddy's position play, cue ball control, shot selection, and never say die attitude was an awesome sight to behold for those of us that were fortunate to see it when he was in his prime. Buddy Hall was my hero when I was learning the game. I would watch him play for hours on end, studying everything that he did, and I learned why he made the choices that he did.

Mike Sigel came along, and it seemed that in professional tournament pool, that he was virtually unstoppable. Then Earl came along. Mike and Earl were 1 & 2 consistently throughout the 1980's - that ended when Nick Varner went on a tear in 1989 and 1990.

Along came Johnny Archer, but in the distance was this guy named Efren - and I noticed the pool world changing. It started to have an international flair with players converging on the US tours from Europe and Asia. Guys like Souquet, Chao, Bustamante, Engert, and Ortmann... the fields grew tougher and tougher.

In this "new" pool world, 1 guy reigned as the king, and we call him "The Magician". I've seen every player from Carella to Deuel, from Lassiter to Van Boening, from Mosconi to Strickland, from Jimmy Moore to Keith McCready. In my opinion, Efren has this extra quality about him that will always separate him from his peers. Efren has not won a lot of World Championships. Efren has not won a handful of U.S. Opens. Efren has won our respect and our admiration, and he has won our hearts with his humility and his humanity. He is definitely, without a doubt the best that I have ever seen.

My top 5 Nine Ball Players of All time
Buddy Hall
Earl Strickland
Luther Lassiter
Efren Reyes
Nick Varner

Money Players
Here is another thing that is also very subjective, but when looking at history, nobody was better than Don Willis. A world class player that stayed under the radar for years - and is widely regarded as possibly the best pure hustler in the history of the game.

Keith McCready is a living legend among mere mortals in today's world of modern pool. Keith was bold and brash, loud and boisterous, but he also had the balls, the brains, and the ability to back it all up. The World did get the 8 when it came to playing Keith ANY game for money on ANY size table. A rare type of player with ugly mechanics - however I dare any instructor out there to use their text book mechanics and have the cue ball move as smoothly as it does for Keith. Sorry. There is a such thing as "God-given ability". That can't be taught, and you still get the 8.

I was sneaking around Memphis back in the days when Buddy Hall was ruling the land. I can never recall anyone taking Buddy down (somebody please correct me if I am wrong) but Buddy ruled the land for a very very long time.

UJ Puckett was great guy with a lot of great stories of the road. I wish I had written down a lot of the stories that he told me, he certainly lived his life to the fullest and enjoyed every bit of it. He is one of the players of the past that I miss the most.

My top 5 Money Players
Don Willis
Keith McCready
UJ Puckett
Ronnie Allen
Jose Parica

When comparing eras, everything is subjective. Pool is a different game than it was back in the days of Lassiter, Balsis, and Moore. It takes nothing away from their accomplishments. I am sure that all of the greats from that era would be major forces to be dealt with on the tables of today. However, if I were to send Efren back in time to the era of Johnston City, I am positive that he would have still ruled as king. He is my favorite player of all-time.

Mike Carella was a great player that just had too many distractions away from the table. His life was cut short by those distractions, and God only knows how far he could have gone with his talent if he had made better decisions in his life. He was fun to watch, fun to hang out with, and he was definitely world class.

Most everything I have learned about pool has come directly from Cisero Murphy. He not only taught me how to play this game, he touched my life and sent me in a positive direction at a time when I was definitely not willing to do so. I was blessed by our friendship, and I have been blessed by everything he taught me about pool and about life. Not a day goes by where I don't thank the man upstairs for everything Cisero brought to my life.

My 5 favorite players of all-time
Efren Reyes
Buddy Hall
Cisero Murphy
Louie Roberts
Mike Carella

Those are my lists - and I won't change my mind about any of them because its how I see it - but I'm interested in seeing the lists of others and hearing why those people make your list.

The only reason you don't get rep. for this post, Dave,,,,, it says I gotta spread it around, LOL. My top two favorite players ever and yours are the same, Efren and Buddy. Wish you had included one pocket but I understand 95+% of us would have Efren at the top and Ronnie second.

I am also with you in the fact that, Parica, doesn't get his due as a top money player. I would suggest there was a reason ALL the champions bypassed Chattanooga, TN in their travels,,,,Vernon Elliot.
 
Mosconi

I have said this before but Willie Mosconi had more influence on my game than anyone. I was making pretty good money around south Louisiana and thought I played good shape. I caught Willie Mosconi on what was almost certainly Wide World of Sports because this was long before the Mosconi/Fats exhibitions. My conception of what was possible with the cue ball after the hit changed after watching him play. I can't even remember who he was playing other than that the other gentleman was tall, maybe Lassiter or Crane.

I hate to add one more "me too" to what is sure to be a long line of Efren selections but there are times when he is simply operating on a level nobody else can. DCC one-pocket 2006(I haven't seen 2007 yet) was almost ridiculous. Alex Pagulayan played amazingly and was destroyed in the semi. Jason Miller was defeated before he picked up a stick in the finals. His first shots were those of a desperate man trying not to be embarrassed. Efren was doing things with a cue ball over and over, almost routinely, that someone else might attempt once in a match when they had no other option. Like Willie Mosconi many years ago, Efren raised the bar for me by showing that things are possible that I previously would have considered little more than a fluke.

Next on my list are the nameless kids coming along today and tomorrow. Pool knowledge is more available than it has ever been and some talented youngsters are taking advantage of this. I truly believe that we will see new levels of pool being played in the next twenty years. I have watched youngsters in their late teens or early twenties controlling the cue ball in manners that a few decades ago I only saw old masters in their late fifties and sixties understand. It boggles my mind to think what that pool knowledge and young eyes and bodies may be able to do.

Hu
 
Blackjack said:
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Those are my lists - and I won't change my mind about any of them because its how I see it - but I'm interested in seeing the lists of others and hearing why those people make your list.
Great read Blackjack! I enjoyed it.
 
I am surprised that player of the decade Johnny Archer didn't make it into the 9 ball category. I am not nearly as knowledgeable as most on this site, however, given that part of the criteria for decision was what they brought to the game I haven't seen many players known the world over like Archer. He was called, by Efren Reyes, the greatest player in the finals he has ever seen. It definitely says great things about the list of players when someone like Archer is kept off the podium.

Just my 2 cents.
 
Johnny E - Toby Sweet - Vernon Elliot - Eddie Taylor - Jimmy Reid - Larry Lisciotti -

All of those guys fit somewhere on my top 10 lists in each category...

Bill, For 1 pocket... I'm sure that you and I will agree on the top 2 and we'd probably fight like pigs in a puddle of $hit over 3-5, but that's what these discussion's are all about! lol ... here is my list

One Pocket
Efren Reyes
Ronnie Allen
Cliff Joyner
Grady Matthews
Danny DiLiberto
 
Shotmaker: Earl "The Pearl" Strickland

Straight Pool: Mike Sigal

9-Ball: Johnny Archer

One Pocket: Ronnie Allen

Gambler: Keith McCready

Legends: The Miz....Enough said

Overall favorites: Mark Tadd, Ralph Soquet, Stevie Moore


Southpaw
 
Here we go again.

STRAIGHT POOL
1. Mosconi
2. Mizerak
3. Crane and Caras

NINE BALL & TEN BALL
1. Parica
2. Efren, Worst and Lassiter
3. Sigel, Strickland and Hall

ROTATION
1. Efren
2. Parica

ONE POCKET
1. Ronnie
2. Efren
3. Ed Kelly, Jersey Red & Parica

BANKS
1. Eddie Taylor
2. Bugs
3. Vernon Elliott

EIGHT BALL
1. Efren


ALL AROUND
1. Efren
2. Kelly, Sigel and Mizerak
3. Buddy (if Banks is included)
 
One of the most well-presented threads/posts I've seen to date on AZB. Blackjack, I agree almost 100% with your selections and analysis. I would keep your lists and maybe add the following as runners-up or ties:
Shotmaker - Denny Searcy. He made impossible-looking shots on a tight-pocket 6x12 snooker table for the cash, then after the game we mere mortals tried to duplicate the shots repeatedly and couldn't make any of them. If you include banks as a shot, maybe Eddie Taylor has to be considered; great all-around player. Also Mike Massey, greatest trick-shot practioner ever and, in his prime, one straight shooting terror.
9Ball - Gotta add Archer, and maybe Jim Rempe for his remarkable string of tournement wins.
Money player - gotta have Buddy Hall in the mix.
Favorite - my favorite is Ronnie Allen, who is the most entertaining player I've ever seen, both for his banter and other-wordly imagination playing one-pocket.
One Pocket - I would put Steve Cook and Jersey Red in the mix. Charlie Justice told me Steve Cook was the best he ever played, and he played 'em all. Jersey Red beat Ronnie Allen consistently until the bet got too high for him and Ronnie would take him down, but Red was one of the best ever. Thanks for a great thread.
 
My list of top 5 players of all times.

Earl Strickland
Efren Reyes
Mike Sigal
Johnny Archer
Mika Immonen
 
jay helfert said:
Here we go again.

STRAIGHT POOL
1. Mosconi
2. Mizerak
3. Crane and Caras

NINE BALL & TEN BALL
1. Parica
2. Efren, Worst and Lassiter
3. Sigel, Strickland and Hall

ROTATION
1. Efren
2. Parica

ONE POCKET
1. Ronnie
2. Efren
3. Ed Kelly, Jersey Red & Parica

BANKS
1. Eddie Taylor
2. Bugs
3. Vernon Elliott

EIGHT BALL
1. Efren


ALL AROUND
1. Efren
2. Kelly, Sigel and Mizerak
3. Buddy (if Banks is included)[/QUOTE

Jay, I like your list but I think Harold Worst could be another good call in the all around list. All pool games and 3 cushion as well.
 
jnav447 said:
One of the most well-presented threads/posts I've seen to date on AZB. Blackjack, I agree almost 100% with your selections and analysis. I would keep your lists and maybe add the following as runners-up or ties:
Shotmaker - Denny Searcy. He made impossible-looking shots on a tight-pocket 6x12 snooker table for the cash, then after the game we mere mortals tried to duplicate the shots repeatedly and couldn't make any of them. If you include banks as a shot, maybe Eddie Taylor has to be considered; great all-around player. Also Mike Massey, greatest trick-shot practioner ever and, in his prime, one straight shooting terror.
9Ball - Gotta add Archer, and maybe Jim Rempe for his remarkable string of tournement wins.
Money player - gotta have Buddy Hall in the mix.
Favorite - my favorite is Ronnie Allen, who is the most entertaining player I've ever seen, both for his banter and other-wordly imagination playing one-pocket.
One Pocket - I would put Steve Cook and Jersey Red in the mix. Charlie Justice told me Steve Cook was the best he ever played, and he played 'em all. Jersey Red beat Ronnie Allen consistently until the bet got too high for him and Ronnie would take him down, but Red was one of the best ever. Thanks for a great thread.

I saw what you saw when Denny got on the 6x12. Never saw anything like it before or since. Maybe the best pure shooting of all time.

Best money player is close between Parica and Buddy. Both had tons of heart. But Ronnie was the best at maximizing a win. He would squeeze the last drop out of his opponents. Cornbread belongs on here too. He made them bet so high, the champions couldn't draw their ball.

Yes, Steve Cook was a great One Pocket player, maybe the equal of Red and Kelly. But he would not play Ronnie in his prime for the cash. He knew where to draw the line. Ronnie played Red 9-8 and 8-7, and they broke even. At 9-8 Ronnie would win and at 8-7 Red would win. It was that close. Ronnie would never give Kelly 8-7 under any circumstances. He got 9-8 also, and this was Ronnies toughest game. Both Kelly and Jersey Red could outmove Taylor, and never let him see a bank.
 
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I put this post in another thread, but to make sure that it doesn't go unnoticed & hopefully is read, here's a story about George Rood, talking with a guy at OnePocket.org.

George Rood is still alive & teaching in Ohio. He is a most fantastic man & a very fine gentleman. He is 90 or more years old.

Lots of people never mention his name, but many of the best have come up against George & lost.

Here's the interview story;

GR: I played with a lot of all-time great players. I played well, but at other games. I played a lot of times with Mosconi; 11 exhibitions I can remember. I played with Irving Crane, Erwin Rudolph, Joe Procita, Andrew Ponzi, Ralph Greenleaf?

1P: Wow, Greenleaf!

GR: I played with all those top players. We played Straight Pool mostly. I also played Jimmy Caras, Arthur [?Babe?] Cranfield, Andrew St. Jean and Willie Hoppe. One achievement I am very proud of was during a Straight Pool money match. I was playing a weaker player and the spot was that he played regular Straight Pool, while I played ?fifty no count?. Any time I ran less than fifty balls I received credit for none. This particular day I had eleven runs of a hundred or more.

1P: Wow; most of us dream of doing that once in our lifetime! Is, or was, Straight Pool your main game?

GR: No, 9-Ball was. At one time I was considered the best 9-Ball player in the world; that included the guys that you hear about, like Luther Lassiter.

1P: And Eddie Taylor?

GR: I beat both Lassiter and Taylor.

1P: That is pretty heavyweight company.

NOTE; here's the link to the entire interview. I know you will enjoy some of this history.

http://www.onepocket.org/GeorgeRoodInterview.htm
 
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Jay, I don't know if Segal or Strickland has ever played Vernon Elliot but I would have to question whether they were better than he was. I watched Vernon play a number of times and the guy always played good enough to win, no matter who he played. It seemed like he always had another speed he wasn't showing. It would have been a great match to have seen.
 
buzzsaw said:
Jay, I don't know if Segal or Strickland has ever played Vernon Elliot but I would have to question whether they were better than he was. I watched Vernon play a number of times and the guy always played good enough to win, no matter who he played. It seemed like he always had another speed he wasn't showing. It would have been a great match to have seen.


For the cash, they couldn't have beaten him. That's about it. He was way before their time anyway. He never played in tournaments. No money, and it would have knocked his action.
 
best straight pool player?

what about dick lane? he had the highest per inning average than any living human in tourney play! 79 balls average! lost to tommy kennedy by 1 ball and had him 149 to 0? thats the last time they played to 150 instead of 125! i broke even with st. louie louie at micky finns in dallas 1971 and beat strickland in houston same year! im the only living human ever played one pocket tourney that i broke and ran out 2 racks in a row! does this mean i am on the best "unknown" pool players list? also i had buddy 7 to 4 in dallas and missed the 3 ball and he ran 5 and out does that mean anything? sparky webb
 
jay helfert said:
Here we go again.

STRAIGHT POOL
1. Mosconi
2. Mizerak
3. Crane and Caras

NINE BALL & TEN BALL
1. Parica
2. Efren, Worst and Lassiter
3. Sigel, Strickland and Hall

ROTATION
1. Efren
2. Parica

ONE POCKET
1. Ronnie
2. Efren
3. Ed Kelly, Jersey Red & Parica

BANKS
1. Eddie Taylor
2. Bugs
3. Vernon Elliott

EIGHT BALL
1. Efren


ALL AROUND
1. Efren
2. Kelly, Sigel and Mizerak
3. Buddy (if Banks is included)

Judging by your list I am surprised you didn't include Jose in your All-Around. Not saying I disagree, just curious as to why he is in 3 of your lists but wouldn't be considered top 3 in your all-around.

Btw, a local pro in my area once told me that if his life was on the line and needed a shot made to save it he would choose Parica to shoot it.
 
best hustlers?

reply to jay helfert about hustling in louisana? i was in deritter la. and ft. polk the same time u were in the 70's . sparky
 
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