That be a pretty da** good first post Mr. Charliescene. Rep to you & welcome. 
My opinion about Earl and what he is doing to pool...
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RonF...I stand corrected! LOL Funny thing is, I've read Jay's book twice, and KNEW the passage you quoted. It just didn't occur to me, since it happened so long ago. 
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Greatest post and most sense ever made on this site.......
Alex is much more entertaining in my book. Not even close as far as A-hole Earl is concerned. I'd take Keith over Earl for good entertainment any day. Also not close. Earl is only entertaining to people who like to watch auto races to see the accidents.
Do you play pool for the game itself....or do you play pool for the pro players that play the game???????
I myself play it for the game and could care less what the "pro players" act like.
If you are going to chastise Earl for his weakness of being able to hide his emotions.....then you must also chastise all of the fans that attend events in hopes of squirting lighter fluid on smoldering coals.
I can't think of another player that gets as much harassment during matches as Earl does.....(have you watched any Mosconi Cup Events?)
You probably have more direct contact with those league playing, amateur tournament event playing, lighter fluid toting fans then you do with Earl himself.
Is this Earl?Because you show about as much respect as he does.
Charlie...you're an idiot.
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I'd rather watch Archer play Souquet, but I'm an idiot too. And my reputation sucks as well. Ask anyone about me. I'm the biggest joke on here. Thanks for
your input and all three of your posts. I'm sure you will be a valued member of this forum.
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yes but pool and poker not even close.
poker you can suck out on phil.
pool you cant beat earl.
Au contraire, it's *you* who are an "idiot."
Earl is a tournament soldier, and Keith is an action man. Tournaments were only a gathering place for players like Keith to engage in high stakes action. Do you think tin cups and tournament payouts were the attraction for Keith? Maybe for bragging rights, but that's about it.
You have no idea how good Keith played, probably never saw him in his prime like Jay, et al., have. Earl, Sigel, Varner, Rempe, Larry Hubbart, Buddy Hall, none of them enjoyed playing Keith in a tournament, and he's beat all of them at one time or another. They're not invincible.
Go back to where you came from. Your opinons stink. :angry:
It's probably the only time I have ever agreed with you on this forum, but you're right.
Jay, I'd rather read your posts than that troll named "Charliescene." He/she can't even shine your shoes when it comes to pool. I'd venture to guess he's/she's not even 30 years old. He/she claims to be from the "East Coast," so it's obvious he's/she's never witnessed championship-level pool as often as you have in your lifetime. His vantage point is skewed as well as his opinions are ignorant.
There's a ring of truth in this.
I remember the Nancy Kerrigan and Tanya Harding fiasco. It hit all the front-page news and media outlets around the world. Harding was banned from professional ice skating in the end, but what this negative incident did was bring ice skating to the forefront. This is actually when it caught my attention. I even went to a couple of ice skating shows in my area when the pros were in town putting on an event.
Pool will never be the classy sport that some wish it to be. It just ain't happening. It's about the most boring thing I've ever seen on TV, especially when played by those "classy" tournament robots. Even though I do enjoy pool, I can't stand watching pool like that. It's just my personal preference. I'm not a pool purist. I don't like seeing mum pool. I do enjoy seeing a little emotion in the game.
Earl Strickland has to work with what he's got. He chose this way of life, and he's making the best of it. The challenge matches and road shows are good venues for Earl to shine his brightest.
I am reminded, though, of when Wade Crane passed away and other pool legends who passed before him. Will those Earl fans of today care? Will they help him to rest in peace if he's penniless?
In the end, pool is cool, but there's so much more to life. For lifetime thoroughbred pool players, pool *is* their life and nothing else matters.
Since Earl is approaching 50 this year, he's doing what he's got to do to get by. I do wonder how many fans he will have when he can't see the balls anymore or if he gets sick or if he goes broke.
For all those championship titles and Hall of Fame awards, it's not worth much to Earl's livelihood, but there's one thing for sure, they can *never* take those tin cups and awards away from him. :wink:
I do hope Earl is able to find true happiness in life that will complement his passion for pool. Archer, Varner, Rempe, Buddy Hall, et al., are lifetime thoroughbred pool champions, but they do have families that love them. In the end, this is what really matters in life, much more so than those tin cups.
Johnny Cash explains the value of being a celebrity much better than me: Everyone I know goes away in the end....
Mama, don't let your babies grow up to be pool players, unless they live in the Philippines.
Jay knows Earl on a personal basis, and a professional one. Most of the rest of us can't say that, so we have no real idea of dealing with Earl is all about. He has a perspective that virtually all the other posters here do not.
That having been said, I don't agree, completely. Not with all the characterizations that have been placed thru these threads, at least.
I'm not interested in a train wreck, either a literal one or one one the pool table. A meltdown isn't something I'd like to see. I don't like seeing Earl throwing his cue (or other gear) around. I expect that most of the folks that have been supporting Earl agree with this sentiment.
But seeing a little personality, and some emotion IS something I like. Earl is many things, but no one can say he isn't passionate about his sport.
Yes, in a perfect world Earl could display the emotion and passion and not step over the line of decorum. Sadly, we don't live in a perfect world.
I appreciate seeing Earl play. I hope he finds a level of peace that allows him to be better appreciated by fans and players alike, and still be exciting.
That having been said, I don't agree, completely. Not with all the characterizations that have been placed thru these threads, at least.
I'm not interested in a train wreck, either a literal one or one one the pool table. A meltdown isn't something I'd like to see. I don't like seeing Earl throwing his cue (or other gear) around. I expect that most of the folks that have been supporting Earl agree with this sentiment.
But seeing a little personality, and some emotion IS something I like. Earl is many things, but no one can say he isn't passionate about his sport.
Yes, in a perfect world Earl could display the emotion and passion and not step over the line of decorum. Sadly, we don't live in a perfect world.
I appreciate seeing Earl play. I hope he finds a level of peace that allows him to be better appreciated by fans and players alike, and still be exciting.
I think that's harsh for nothing and you defend Earl only because he's been World Champion and US Open champion on many, many occasions. If Earl would be just 'another no-name player who thinks have a chance at a slice of the cake', you'd call him a clown and a rude player. Because he's been the world champion he is excused? No way, not in a hundred years!!
I don't know if you've seen the Earl vs Shane match but during that first night, he was totally out of line. Screaming at the audience to shut up. I have never any of Earl's opponents complain to the crowd and messing up with them....and its the same crowd for both players. When they miss, they sit down and wait for their next turn, why does Earl need to act like a fool? I'm not gonna believe that the crowd is acting up ONLY when Earl is shooting.
Every players play under the same atmosphere and conditions and he needs to stop being a baby.
That being said, I don't know you so of course....no offense towards you
Sad world isn't it.. i've almost lost hope for it.
Earl IS pool.
What about Pinegar? Most people either love him or hate him just like Earl and he's not a top name pro. Even Scooter has a lot of people who like to watch him gamble/play and just as many who can't stand him. Most pool halls in the US have a butthole people either show up to play or gamble against. Many people want pool to be played by gentleman in suits but even more want some personality.
The only European player I have paid,or would pay to see is Mika. He can be a butthole at times so I wanted to watch Shane kick his butt and luckily he did. If Mika would have won, I'd have paid for the next match to see someone else take him down. That's entertainment for me, cheering for the players I like to watch or rooting against the players I don't like.
If TAR only shows the gentleman players I don't think they have much of a future. They had over 2000 viewers on the free stream Sunday because people tuned in to see Earl winning or hoping Shane would come back on the ***hole.