My Visit To The IPT Office And Conversation With Deno Andrews

Hey Debra,

I am not defending Deno or KT in the slightest. I am just stating what was said to me, I am NOT in any way saying that I believed it all. Deno and I are not "friend's" I have never ever met him, and only have spoken to him twice in my life.

You and a good number of people are valid in your feelings towards Deno and KT. The one that has something to loose here is Deno, not KT. If this crashes and burns, which it very well may happen, Deno will loose ALL creditability in this industry and will be completely washed up. That is why I stated that I felt "Deno truly believes what he is saying" Not that I believed it. I sincerely hope for his sake that all goes well.

Smashmouth~

Sorry to differ with you, but you have no idea of what you are talking about! This I know for sure! There is a hefty deposit that KT had to have put down at both the convention center. Then the rest of the payments are due before the event. IF he does not pay, NO SHOW. Afterwords he will get another bill with the electric and all of the other hidden costs. Smashmouth, I knowfor sure because I am VERY well connected in this area, and in the pool industry including DIAMOND which I have worked with for years.

All of the the tables expenses are NOT eaten by Diamond, they are eaten by the promoter AND what I said about it being UNION is the gospel. This is a bill that KT will get along with ALL the hiden costs at the end. I PROMISE YOU! Your "reliable source" is clueless on this venue, sorry to tell you, and I mean you no disrespect, but you have been misinformed. This particular center in which I know some of the big brass, does not make deals on a hand shake.

The only way the KT is going to get out of these payments is, if the IPT goes under, then, he can just write it and everyone else off.

I have a lot of friends in this industry that are on the IPT. I am their connection here to see if it is going to happen. It would make me SICK if someone bought their very expensive tickets to come here and it was for not! I am trying to provent this from happening, like it did for some of the players who bought tickets to London. I have made promises to many of these players who haven written me asking for help. I will do my best to keep an eye on what's going on.
 
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Snapshot9 said:
I do not, for a minute, believe Deno is like that. He may be in a precarious position because KT is his boss, and the one that pays him (and Deno has a family to feed), but I think Deno is a class individual.
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Have you met Deno in person? Have you interacted with him in person or watched his interactions with others in person?
 
Nice, Eydie.

Now it seems you asked them (Deno and the other two guys) a lot of questions - did they ask YOU any? As far as how folks outside their organization percieve things, etc etc.?

Couple of things:
1) I doubt there'll be "several hundred" tables in Chicago. They'll be 150 total players, tops (assuming they all show). If everyone was playing at once, that's 75 tables. Toss in some more for practice, it'd still be pushing 100 total. And I really doubt they'll schedule everyone at once on that first day.

2) The KT-in-Europe bit - seems he's got his thumbs in a few pies. Could well be he was over there on other business besides IPT stuff. (I'm just tossing out possibilities, I'm neither pro-KT or anti-KT at the moment. Please switch your flamethrowers to the "off" position. :D)
 
Eydie,

It takes a lot of courage to do what you did. If everything is going to be OK, I ask myself why haven't the IPT leadership come forward?

Chris
 
Eydie Romano said:
Hey Debra,

I am not defending Deno or KT in the slightest. I am just stating what was said to me, I am NOT in any way saying that I believed it all. Deno and I are not "friend's" I have never ever met him, and only have spoken to him twice in my life.
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Eydie
You know that I know that youre not that gullable. lol
:p :p :p
 
smashmouth said:
Eydie,

The upfront costs for the Chicago tourney are next to nothing.

The table expenses are entirely eaten by Diamond.

KT has an arrangement to pay the convention Centre "at a later date".

I have this from a reliable source, the entire IPT business model is
based on such arrangements with KT fronting no capital.
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I am pleased you said that. Its so obvious what Kt's plan was its screaming out at us, BUT people still can't see it, this amazes me. I don't blame him for it, it was pretty ballsy and he needed more front than Buckingham Palace to pull it off. However to pretend that his plan was to pump in millions of his own money, or he as actually put much into it at all is bordering on lunacy IMO.

But people still think he's spent millions! :rolleyes:
 
Snapshot9 said:
I do not, for a minute, believe Deno is like that. He may be in a precarious position because KT is his boss, and the one that pays him (and Deno has a family to feed), but I think Deno is a class individual.

I am sure Deno is just doing like he has been 'mandated' to do. If it becomes too compromising for him, I am sure he would pursue other interests in his own behalf and for the good of his family.

Bet your BOSS loves you .... go learn to make 3 fookin balls before you character assassinate someone of Deno's character and reputation. (again and again)

BTW, thought you were banned from here?
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Deno's credibility at this point is way down below ground level, particularly after the Inside Pool Magazine article. Deno's responses and attitudes (me this, me that, my staff, I dont permit this, we are not that way, that will never happen, bla, bla, bla), clearly demonstrates he is a pompous, arrogant, deceiving kind of guy. (I reserve the real word I would call him).

Deno is not a high class individual. He is just another low-lifer that dresses in nice clothes.
 
TATE said:
Eydie,

It takes a lot of courage to do what you did. If everything is going to be OK, I ask myself why haven't the IPT leadership come forward?

Chris
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There is no such IPT leadership. It is only KT and Deno, and Deno is definitely a puppet.
 
Eydie,

Thank you so much for doing this for us and the players, that is really nice of you.

I hope to see you in Chicago.:)

Richard
 
Eydie Romano said:
Regarding the current InsidePool and the "notorious interview" Deno said the following: He apologized to me personally for the comments stated, considering that I felt they were directed to me and some of my hard working fellow competitors. He stated that the interview was done by one journalist who was not associated with IP and then finished by another at IP. He denies using the term willy-nilly and states that he never has used that terminology in his life.
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I don't know about you guys but I had forgotten the term "willy-nilly" from the artcile. I find it highly amusing that he pointed this out. Almost as if he was trying re-direct the focus... let's not focus on all the pompous things I said and where I stuck my foot in my mouth.... let's focus on two little words that I'm going to claim I didn't say....

Deno, you know the msg boards better than that.... this is a no spin zone. We call BS when we see it.
 
ScottW said:
I doubt there'll be "several hundred" tables in Chicago. They'll be 150 total players, tops (assuming they all show). If everyone was playing at once, that's 75 tables. Toss in some more for practice, it'd still be pushing 100 total. And I really doubt they'll schedule everyone at once on that first day.
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OK. I went to their site and did the math.
The first round will consist of 6 groups of 25 players making a total of 375 matches. Round 1 has 10 starting times over the course of two days (5 starting times on Monday and 5 on Tuesday). At a consistent rate of play they will run 38 matches per starting time.

Therefore, they will need 38 tables on Monday and Tuesday.

The number of required tables drops afterwards.:)
 
TX Poolnut said:
OK. I went to their site and did the math.
The first round will consist of 6 groups of 25 players making a total of 375 matches. Round 1 has 10 starting times over the course of two days (5 starting times on Monday and 5 on Tuesday). At a consistent rate of play they will run 38 matches per starting time.

Therefore, they will need 38 tables on Monday and Tuesday.

The number of required tables drops afterwards.:)
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Not sure what you meant with this. Here's what I found on their website:

Round 1
Monday and Tuesday 10am - LEVEL A - Match Times: 10am, 12:30pm, 3pm, 5:30pm, 8pm
150 Players start the tournament playing in 25 groups of six players each. The top three players from each group advance to the next level. The 75 players in Level A who do not advance to the next level earn $3,000 each.
 
Hey Eydie,
Post the address to this IPT office with maybe driving directions. I am sure that a few IPT players, when they still are not paid by the end of November, would/should think about getting to Chicago a few days early for the tournament. This way they could stop by the IPT headquarters & say hello to Deno in order to politely request their money.

And I still don't get the defense of Deno by a lot of the posters. He is guilty by association. Period. Ignorance is no excuse. He can't answer why the players haven't been paid!! Unreal. Again, I have been around pool almost 20 years & never heard of this guy until about 12 months ago. What was his credibility & status in the pool community before the IPT? If he was a 'pool player', then sorry, his credibility is something that shouldn't be judged on the basis that a majority of pool players act. Deno is only ahead of where he was 1 year ago. I'm sure he has been paid handsomely & lived well during the past year. He will resurface somewhere when this is over, crying ignorance or he will get a real job.

Eydie, be straight with me because I feel you always have been. Did you get some PERSONAL flack over the fact that you previously posted the Deno Inside Pool article for all to read? That is the gut feeling I am getting.
 
rackmsuckr said:
Not sure what you meant with this. Here's what I found on their website:

Round 1
Monday and Tuesday 10am - LEVEL A - Match Times: 10am, 12:30pm, 3pm, 5:30pm, 8pm
150 Players start the tournament playing in 25 groups of six players each. The top three players from each group advance to the next level. The 75 players in Level A who do not advance to the next level earn $3,000 each.
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6 players per group equals 15 matches per group. You don't play yourself. The equation is not 6 times 25.

15 matches per group multiplied by 25 groups equals 375 matches. I don't know how else to explain it. I don't understand the confusion. Draw the chart out if that will help you visualize it.
 
I'm no expert in business, but why would the monies due to the players have anything to do with the company changing hands? I spoke to one of my colleagues and he said that the money should've already been there, regardless of who is buying the company or what transition it's going through.

In addition, the cover of IP disgusted me, just as the article did. Fancy clothes, shmancy clothes. The portrait of a person is not what it always seems to be...
 
9 Ball Girl said:
I'm no expert in business, but why would the monies due to the players have anything to do with the company changing hands? I spoke to one of my colleagues and he said that the money should've already been there, regardless of who is buying the company or what transition it's going through.

In addition, the cover of IP disgusted me, just as the article did. Fancy clothes, shmancy clothes. The portrait of a person is not what it always seems to be...
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My thought exactly. I worked for Nabisco when it was bought by Kraft Foods. I never missed a paycheck thru the entire buyout.

If going to Europe means that a tournament payout is held up, he should have stayed in Chicago. Him being in Europe had nothing to do with the payouts not being disbursed. Excuses, excuses.
 
TX Poolnut said:
OK. I went to their site and did the math.
The first round will consist of 6 groups of 25 players making a total of 375 matches. Round 1 has 10 starting times over the course of two days (5 starting times on Monday and 5 on Tuesday). At a consistent rate of play they will run 38 matches per starting time.

Therefore, they will need 38 tables on Monday and Tuesday.

The number of required tables drops afterwards.:)
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The part I did not understand is that you state that there are 6 groups of 25 players with 2 days of Round 1 whereas on the IPT site, it states 25 groups of 6 players with 3 moving on for Day 2. So they would need far less tables. Am I missing something?
 
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