In the other sports that have been mentioned (tennis, golf, baseball) your opponent does participate, pool is afaik the only sport that you could never have a chance to win the game, i.e. a break and run.
Name any other sport or game...
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Shoebat
I tried to cover this in my original post: Even though I'm pointing out what could be considered a flaw, I am not advocating alternate breaks because there is a beauty and a higher goal to stringing racks.
Perhaps, as one person pointed out in regards to the DCC, if one player runs, say, 13 racks, the other player should get to at least try to run the same number of balls, plus one, afterwards.
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As I said in my greenie to you: 9b, 8b, snooker, 3c, straight pool, even 1p can be broken and ran, although the likelihood gets lower based on the games. Thing is, the higher the skill, the more b&r's become actual attainable goals- even in longer sets.
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Most cruel game
An old man once told me that pool is the most cruel game ever invented. In all other sports an opponent is guaranteed an opportunity to get their shot.
Examples. Golf. You take your swing and then your other opponent(s) get theirs. Baseball. one team gets a time at bat. 3 outs later the other team gets their turn. Football. One team scores and then has to kickoff to the other team.
Not so in pool. Guy might break and run out a set and you never reach the table.
Pool also punishes you harshly for making mistakes. You might dog a shot and your opponent takes over the table and you may never see the table again. And if you do you might be kicking 3 rails to hit a ball because your opponent shot a dead lock safety on you. That is what the old man I knew meant when he said pool is the most cruel game!!
This old man also played golf and said that pool was a much harsher game than golf. He said in golf you can make a bad shot and it may cost you several strokes but at least you get another opportunity at redemption because you always get another shot and can make up for a bad shot. Pool guarantees no such opportunities. One stupid mistake and you may cede control of the table to your opponent and may never have another chance to redeem yourself.
The old man said that playing pool required a certain mental toughness because of this aspect of it. He was truly a wise old man.
An old man once told me that pool is the most cruel game ever invented. In all other sports an opponent is guaranteed an opportunity to get their shot.
Examples. Golf. You take your swing and then your other opponent(s) get theirs. Baseball. one team gets a time at bat. 3 outs later the other team gets their turn. Football. One team scores and then has to kickoff to the other team.
Not so in pool. Guy might break and run out a set and you never reach the table.
Pool also punishes you harshly for making mistakes. You might dog a shot and your opponent takes over the table and you may never see the table again. And if you do you might be kicking 3 rails to hit a ball because your opponent shot a dead lock safety on you. That is what the old man I knew meant when he said pool is the most cruel game!!
This old man also played golf and said that pool was a much harsher game than golf. He said in golf you can make a bad shot and it may cost you several strokes but at least you get another opportunity at redemption because you always get another shot and can make up for a bad shot. Pool guarantees no such opportunities. One stupid mistake and you may cede control of the table to your opponent and may never have another chance to redeem yourself.
The old man said that playing pool required a certain mental toughness because of this aspect of it. He was truly a wise old man.
The game of pool itself can be played where all participants have an equal number of opportunities but this just isn't the way most tournaments or matches are formatted because the same games are always played - 8/9/10 Ball; 14.1 and 1 Hole.
But games like Fargo, Bowlliards, Equal Offense, and Pool 300 allow every participant the same number of chances. What may be even more significant from a professional standpoint is that these games allow players to compete against the entire field rather than one player at a time as in match play only.
But games like Fargo, Bowlliards, Equal Offense, and Pool 300 allow every participant the same number of chances. What may be even more significant from a professional standpoint is that these games allow players to compete against the entire field rather than one player at a time as in match play only.
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Baseball....ask the Mariners how they felt when the ChiSox booked a perfect game the other day.
I think I disagree with the baseball analogies.
While you can have a pitcher throw a no hitter, is that really winning without your opponent having a chance? To me, the other team had 27 chances to reply/do something/win. They just didn't capitalize.
In Pool, someone can run out the set (winner breaks) with ZERO input from you. You don't even get 1 remote chance at it. You get nothing. You lose. Good day, sir.
Eric
While you can have a pitcher throw a no hitter, is that really winning without your opponent having a chance? To me, the other team had 27 chances to reply/do something/win. They just didn't capitalize.
In Pool, someone can run out the set (winner breaks) with ZERO input from you. You don't even get 1 remote chance at it. You get nothing. You lose. Good day, sir.
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You can't have it both ways. Either you have alternating breaks, or you give a really good player an opportunity to break and run the set. I would be in favor of giving an incoming player an inning at the table if his opponent broke and ran the set.
Again, I disagree with these statements because they are being applied to pool generally. It depends on the game you are playing. There are numerous pool games where not only do all players have a chance but actually get an equal number of chances.
After a pitcher releases the ball, he relinquishes control to the hitter. No matter how difficult of a pitch it is to hit, it is the hitter who has control. He can choose to swing or not. In order for the pitcher to strike him out, he must eventually place the ball in the strike zone.
Pool is not this way in the context of this thread.
Pool is not this way in the context of this thread.
Archer ran out the set (like 11 racks) on Bustamante, Then Bustamante asked Archer if he would like to bump the bet....Just saying 
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How about being dealt a Blackjack? (plus you get odds on your money)
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The dealer can also pull a Black Jack,,,,,correct ??
Somebody mentioned "pistol duel"...good job. I think that one works
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No that wouldnt work as you both have a chance to shoot even though one may not get the shot of... he is still "taking a turn"
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Archer put a 13 pack on Bustamante to break and run the first set. Bustamante proposed that they double the bet on the next set. They played the next set for the same amount and Busamante won.
Archer ran out the set (like 11 racks) on Bustamante, Then Bustamante asked Archer if he would like to bump the bet....Just saying
Yep, baseball is a bad analogy. Everyone on the opposing team gets to bat 3 times, EACH. They same 9 guys do NOT all strike out, and no perfect game in MLB history or college was won with 27 strike outs... most of the outs are grounds outs and fly outs... just like the White Sox on Saturday... 27 outs, and 9 were K's...
Not to mention that all 9 players on opposing team spent 8 or 9 innings playing defense, so not exactly like they did not play the game, get dirty or break a sweat.....heck, the opposing pitcher still had to toss 90 or so pitches himself, he just did not do as good as the other guy...
There are hands in Bridge where the defenders can't do anything to prevent the declarer from making his contract.
It's probably closer than baseball to what the OP is looking for because a) even though they're playing their cards, the opponents cannot affect the outcome and b) good bridge players recognize these situations and claim the tricks without playing out the hand.
It's probably closer than baseball to what the OP is looking for because a) even though they're playing their cards, the opponents cannot affect the outcome and b) good bridge players recognize these situations and claim the tricks without playing out the hand.
Nope, cause the oppenent is playing right next to you taking shot for shot.... and at any time the other guys game can fall apart at the 15th hole, and the other guy could still win. Heck, it happens all the time in the PGA....lot of choking going on down the stretch