I am wondering if this 'slow pay' situation will affect the turn out at the up coming IPT qualifiers...it sure is starting to "feel" like it could. Is there blood in the water?
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Negative Effect-Qualifier Turnout #'s
- Thread starter Island Drive
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We shall see but its making it very hard for the players, how can anyone plan their life around a tour like this? WO Qualifier entry increased without notice or explanation, KT announced there would be 1k and 2k options for 2007 tour card qualifier, now only 2k option. Events have already been cancelled and we are told there will only be SIX and not ELEVEN next year! Not only that the first event won't even be until July 2007! 
I fear we may have some events with 2 players in them but we just don't know. Maybe in a perverse way it might be good for the IPT if the qualifiers bomb. They might realise then that they are placing far too much enphasis on the pool player to fund the tour, its never going to happen.
I fear we may have some events with 2 players in them but we just don't know. Maybe in a perverse way it might be good for the IPT if the qualifiers bomb. They might realise then that they are placing far too much enphasis on the pool player to fund the tour, its never going to happen.
I have just received the draws. There are at least 2 Qualifiers with only 3 players, the others have 4, 5 or 6.
Looks like there's something wrong with the IPT-website, since they are not updating...
Well, the players are:
01 - Michael Enters, Rob Hart, Matt Krah
02 - Brian Brekke, Lee Haugwagen, James Baraks
03 - Richard Broumpton, Tony Crosby, Keith Bennett, Robb Saez, Richie Richenson, Will Bilbery
04 - Teddy Garraham, Oscar Dominguez, Arturo Rivera
05 - Jim Weast, Steve Rector, Darrien Everett, Jeff Melton, Kevin Becker, Roger Griffis
06 - Christoffer Magnusson, Vesa-Ville Virtanen, Sten Jarledahl
07 - Marco Tschudi, Andy Barnett, Urs Furrer, Rob Wilson, Joern Kaplan
08 - Andrew Breen, Andy Worthington, Steve Highton, Patrick Fagan
09 - Alexandru Nedelea, Toni Judet, Vilmos Foldes, Mark Gray, Brian Beekers
10 - Roger Lysholm, Line Kjorsvik, Kari Paloheimo, Lars-Harald Riiber, Kim Soo Garmark
In total: 43
Well, the players are:
01 - Michael Enters, Rob Hart, Matt Krah
02 - Brian Brekke, Lee Haugwagen, James Baraks
03 - Richard Broumpton, Tony Crosby, Keith Bennett, Robb Saez, Richie Richenson, Will Bilbery
04 - Teddy Garraham, Oscar Dominguez, Arturo Rivera
05 - Jim Weast, Steve Rector, Darrien Everett, Jeff Melton, Kevin Becker, Roger Griffis
06 - Christoffer Magnusson, Vesa-Ville Virtanen, Sten Jarledahl
07 - Marco Tschudi, Andy Barnett, Urs Furrer, Rob Wilson, Joern Kaplan
08 - Andrew Breen, Andy Worthington, Steve Highton, Patrick Fagan
09 - Alexandru Nedelea, Toni Judet, Vilmos Foldes, Mark Gray, Brian Beekers
10 - Roger Lysholm, Line Kjorsvik, Kari Paloheimo, Lars-Harald Riiber, Kim Soo Garmark
In total: 43
I wouldn't be surprised if the slow pay and other questions have some effect on the entries.
I also wouldn't be surprised to find out that a lot of players think that with ten weeks of qualifiers it might be a good idea to save their money and enter after five or six weeks when a lot of top players have already qualified.
Of course if they knew that there were only going to be six players or less at each qualifier they would have been guaranteed a free entry to the next qualifier. They are still giving free entries to 3rd through 6th for these qualifiers, right?
We also should remember that there are twice as many qualifiers each week so that will reduce the average player per qualifier.
I also wouldn't be surprised to find out that a lot of players think that with ten weeks of qualifiers it might be a good idea to save their money and enter after five or six weeks when a lot of top players have already qualified.
Of course if they knew that there were only going to be six players or less at each qualifier they would have been guaranteed a free entry to the next qualifier. They are still giving free entries to 3rd through 6th for these qualifiers, right?
We also should remember that there are twice as many qualifiers each week so that will reduce the average player per qualifier.
Keith Buck said:
Kieth very good point, it's too bad "whats going on" may adversly effect the immediate events. If it turns around, and I hope it does, the remaining events will probably be packed. Its too bad at this point the players don't have bylaws yet and wait on the powers to be, but thats how operations are being handled presently and we'll all just have to "stand by".
Andy Breen, A blackball type pro from London won his event.
TheOne said:
This Thursday Sept 15th 2006 a friend of mine called me at 2:00 PM and said that he just got of the phone with a lady regarding a qualifier at Champion Billiards in Frederick, MD
She said that nobody had signed up yet and that the deadling was 5:00 Thursday and that if you put up $2,000 and were the only one there you would qualify to go to the big dance.
Damn, I missed my chance!
Actually, I thought about doing it,but then I thought about the crooks and mafia people who will be running the IPT and I said hell no! No way! There is no really any guarantee of anything IMHO.
You guys missed you chance too LOL.
Roy Steffensen said:
Let's see, 43 X $2,000 = $86,000 KA CHING!
I would think that if aspiring pros believed this wasn't a doomed tour, they'd drop the 2k in a heartbeat.
As it stands, you have qualifiers with only 3 entrants, that's insane.
That puts you in a tourney where the top 50 supposedly will get 100k minimum next year.
AMAZING odds! Why are people not jumping all over this, makes you wonder.
As it stands, you have qualifiers with only 3 entrants, that's insane.
That puts you in a tourney where the top 50 supposedly will get 100k minimum next year.
AMAZING odds! Why are people not jumping all over this, makes you wonder.
smashmouth said:
Why are the entrant turnouts for these qualifiers seemingly so low? The answer could be that the poolplayer generally knows what their skill level is and they have experience in trying to beat those with higher skill levels. They understand that given the format of the IPT events only the very top players in the world have a chance of advancing out of day two......two thousand dollars makes the run of the mill shortstop think very hard about reality. This is not like poker where the buy in tournaments are filled with fantasy minded players who can count, wear sunglasses, and patiently wait for cards. Poolplayers actually have to have a physical skill along with some brains. There are very few poolplayers who will pony up their cash on a hopeless quest. Reality sucks.....
