Neil-BIH/10ball. What should I have done?

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3RAILKICK

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Surprisingly-I did complete the run.

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I think I was fortunate. My plan worked, but I think there were easier ways to do it.

Thanks for any comments.

Note: 4 balls went into same pocket
 
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you shot well all tournament

Thanks for kicking my ass, you took advantage of every chance you had.
 
Setting up for the 7 in the bottom side pocket is also a nice option and easier to achieve plus it gives you automatic position with just a slight draw.

But I would probably go around the table too to avoid any risk of kissing any balls I wouldn't want to.
 

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7 in the side. Draw to almost straight on 8.

The rest is child's play. Poor shape on 7. No problem. Simple bank safe behind 10 and your probably in again with ball in hand.

The other way is just looking for trouble. Could I do it. Sure but why (Sorry Neil)?
 
Nick B.

Real easy to get the wrong angle with your shape on the 7, and often those side pocket shots are missed. I like Neil's solution better.
 
I would use Nick B's route except I'd play the seven in the corner. I'd bet a fortune that one pro that one pro would get out more times out of 100 that way than another pro going all the way around the table. Wish John Schmidt, Donny Mills and Chris Bartrum would respond to these more often.
 
I'm with Nick, I like the 7 in the side. If the CB goes a little far, you got the corner. If it stops short, you got the bank safe. For me, this route would be a lot easier.
 
Greater positional error in this case, assumes you can control the angle well

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I like playing the 7 to the bottom left corner, if I get a funny angle on it, I can always freeze the cue ball on the 10.
 
Hussa,

Poolschoolars way is for sure a good choice-
But....the way Nick B has choosen is also a good in my opinion- if you miss the perfect angle, you could still shoot the ball down in the cornerpocket instead of the side pocket, and also you can still play a wonderful safety from there.
 
Neil said:
Looking at it this morning, when I'm a little more awake, I like this one . Just have to watch that you don't scratch in the side.
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I really disagree with this. Aside from the potential game losing scratch in the side, hitting the ten after shooting the six could cause a hook so you would really have to make sure you stayed well above it which is going to create an angel on the seven which is going to make an angle on the eight which will lead to having a huge issue of not being able to avoid getting hooked by the ten when shooting the nine. Or else you are going to have to end up shooting thin on the nine sending the cue ball up and down table and praying for an easy shot on the ten.
 
I definitely like the 1-rail approach here. The tangent line takes you pretty much where you want to be, and speed should be pretty easy to judge. With the 6 being so close to the rail, it will be hard to pick up the exact angle you want drawing 2-rails, and I actually think the side pocket is just as much in play (if not more so) on that shot. You're definitely going to pick up running spin off of that first rail, so coming in short, like at or above the side pocket, would be a concern for me. I might consider playing the 7 for the side or upper corner on buckets, but probably not on a tight table. Speed is touchy on that shot and a slight off-angle could make for a difficult shot.

Aaron
 
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I also like the 1 rail approach. The same safety is also there on the 7 if you end up with a very steep angle. Also, if you end up steep and still want to go offensive, the 4 railer is available to get you back in line for the 8. This is an easy 4 railer, because you will be close to the object ball.

My least favorite shot that was mentioned earlier if I understood the description correctly, was drawing back between the 8 and the 7 to shoot the 7 in the same pocket as the 6. This particular situation does not lend itself well to that shot. And even if executed, the chance of being on the wrong side of the 7 is better than being on the right side of it. If you end up on the wrong side of the 7, you are dead: No safety available, and no way to get back around the table (3 railer out of play due to ball positions).

I'm just a D player so take what I say as 1 cent! lol.
 
I always look closely at the OP before reading on and "biasing" my opinion.

I saw and analyzed the 3 aforementioned options and decided on the one railer. To execute this all I have to do is have nice touch and not hit the 10 and not scratch. Jeez, if I can't manage that, I should don a wig and a skirt and take up gambling hopscotch at St Mary's High.

Even if you get a little steep on the 7, which makes you steep on the 8, you can get good position on the 9 by playing it above the 10. There's some margin for error on the simple 1 railer.

No brainer IMO. The 2 other (non-7 in-the-side) options have too much risk for getting below the 7, which is very undesirable.

Now, what did 3railkick do? I don't see kicking 3 rails as a good option. ;)
 
Gotta go with the 1 railer.

If you want another difficult out, then you can play to bank the 7 into the side and stick CB to 10. leaves a touchy shot for position on the 9, but since you passed up the easy shape on the 7 (to get on 8 too:)), you obviously do not want to do it the easy way.

Side pocket?! rarely to neVAR!
 
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