New Diamond Table Pocket sizes

DaJokerz

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I wanted to gather some opinions on pocket sizes for the new 9 footer that I am getting. Should I leave them at procut at 4.5" or shrink them down a bit?

What would you folks do?

-Jason
 
When you can afford a new Diomond table you most likely can afford two sets of rails. I have three sets for my Valley. Standard buckets, 4 1/2", and a set that makes ALL six pockets 4". Johnnyt
 
Diamond offers the Pro Cut- 4 7/16 and they also offer 4 1/8 for an extra $500. Any other sizes will need to be custom done.

I just ordered one with the standard pro cut.
 
I have a 4.5" diamond and would not go tighter.

1. 4.5" is slightly forgiving with brand new cloth and balls, but once that cloth gets old and balls a little dirty, they will really snug up.
2. The table is 90% for my use but I also enjoy entertaining friends and having social games. I can tell without a doubt, my friends don't enjoy playing on this table like they did my old 5" gold crown. Its not fun when you only make a ball when its within 1 diamond of the hole.
3. I think it can get demoralizing and start negatively effecting your stoke when you are playing on real tight tables. If you are always cinching shots, you wont ever develop a powerful stroke.
 
When you can afford a new Diomond table you most likely can afford two sets of rails. I have three sets for my Valley. Standard buckets, 4 1/2", and a set that makes ALL six pockets 4". Johnnyt

Not that I disagree, but that is rediculous!

DaJokerz- have you not played on a Diamond before?! I'd sugges that you leave them like they come, then get the subrails extended when you get it recovered, if you still think it is a good idea.

Those diamonds play pretty damn tuff with worn cloth.
 
4 1/4 all the way...if you're really feeling froggy, maybe 4 1/8".
 
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Another thing I forgot to mention...

The humidity being higher in the basement makes my table play a bit tougher than the same table on a ground floor such as at a pool hall.
 
Standard Pro Cut pocktes that table will play tougher then any table that your going to run into on anything close to a regular basis. Unless you go looking for some triple shimmed monster, if your playing league, semi pro, or pro events 90% of the tables are going to be 4 1/2" at best. Anything tighter will make the game too challenging for most and slow down the events.

Just my opinion......

Black Cat :cool:
 
Not that I disagree, but that is rediculous!

DaJokerz- have you not played on a Diamond before?! I'd sugges that you leave them like they come, then get the subrails extended when you get it recovered, if you still think it is a good idea.

Those diamonds play pretty damn tuff with worn cloth.

I agree with Double B here. I've got the standard pro cut pockets and I assure you that the table offers challenges aplenty. You've basically touched on an interesting topic. Read here for more than you can shake a stick at about the issue.

Just to reiterate, drive before you buy!
 
Agree

Standard Pro Cut pocktes that table will play tougher then any table that your going to run into on anything close to a regular basis. Unless you go looking for some triple shimmed monster, if your playing league, semi pro, or pro events 90% of the tables are going to be 4 1/2" at best. Anything tighter will make the game too challenging for most and slow down the events.

Just my opinion......

Black Cat :cool:

I agree with that.I also heard that the pro,s are going back to 4 and 1/2 from 4 and 3/8.
 
Go Pro!

Standard Pro Cut pocktes that table will play tougher then any table that your going to run into on anything close to a regular basis. Unless you go looking for some triple shimmed monster, if your playing league, semi pro, or pro events 90% of the tables are going to be 4 1/2" at best. Anything tighter will make the game too challenging for most and slow down the events.

Just my opinion......

Black Cat :cool:

I bought a 9ft ProAm a couple years ago. Best investment I ever made. Ordered the pro-cut pockets, and since I, and none of the people who have played on it since, are TOP 50 WORLD CLASS PROFESSIONALS, it is PLENTY TOUGH. It plays so good, I don't like to play on anything else. But, if you're a masochist, make it tighter. :banghead:

Charlie
 
I have a 4.5" diamond and would not go tighter.

1. 4.5" is slightly forgiving with brand new cloth and balls, but once that cloth gets old and balls a little dirty, they will really snug up.
2. The table is 90% for my use but I also enjoy entertaining friends and having social games. I can tell without a doubt, my friends don't enjoy playing on this table like they did my old 5" gold crown. Its not fun when you only make a ball when its within 1 diamond of the hole.
3. I think it can get demoralizing and start negatively effecting your stoke when you are playing on real tight tables. If you are always cinching shots, you wont ever develop a powerful stroke.

People don't get that.
When the cloth gets old and it's a cold day, they spit out balls even when they're hit right.
It's only 4.5" in the opening and it tightens up quick.
The end rail's facing angle makes it tough imo.
 
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Well, I have had a bunch of gold crowns but no diamonds in my home.....but, I have had pockets from 5" down to a shade over 4".

Right now My table is at 4-3/8", and it plays perfect for rotation games and 14.1, but slightly loose for one pocket.

My advise would be to be honest about the game you want to play most and set it up accordingly. IMO anything 4-1/4" and under is great for one hole, but makes you gun shy for all other games...


have fun,

G.
 
My experience is Pro-Cut 4.5" with new cloth isn't too bad and plays very fair. With old/worn cloth, the same table is much tougher.
 
Thanks all for the feedback. It was the way I was leaning anyways.

Buying a second set of rails is a good idea. I never thought of that.

-Jason
 
Geez all this talk is making me feel like a world beater for playing as well as I do on a 10 year old Diamond Professional with worn cloth and 4" pockets. I play on that table regularly and I don't ever feel gunshy. If anything I think it helps me dial my stroke in better. Gotta hit center. If I ever put a table in my house, I'd go with 4 1/4. Just my opinion.
 
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