New Respect For Snooker Players.

[Cornerman]

First, different sized tables and different games develop different skill sets. If you want to prove your adaptability, go play those other tables and games successfully. Don't demand that others play your game and proclaim superiority if they don't comply.

No kidding. I wish those claiming snooker superiority would take your advice. I've been saying exactly the same thing.

Second, the proposition that pocketing balls on a 100 inch long table with 4+ inch pockets is tougher that pocketing balls on a 138 inch long table with 3.33 inch pockets won't pass any objective test.

Good thing the definition of "tougher game" isn't only about pocketing balls. As Steve Davis said, "snooker is all about potting; American pool is all about position."

Third, players from other countries have competed successfully at snooker's highest level: Ding from China; Robertson from Australia; Drago from Malta; Wych and Thorburn from Canada. That is where the prize money, fat endorsements, and reputations to create audiences for exhibitions are found. Given the constant complaining about sparse pickings in U.S. cue sports, it is amazing that no U.S. player has made the transition.

This is the same bogus argument that always comes up. There are things people just won't do, since more money isn't what normally makes people truly happy. I could make more money doing something else that I have the skills to do, but I'd hate doing it. So, I stick with the job I'm doing, making half the money but loving what I do.

If you can eek out a living doing something you love (say, play pool) or make a ton of money at something you hate and live in countries that aren't home, is that something anyone would ever consider? It's not like playing snooker is the same as playing pool. Most player who love pool don't particularly like anything about snooker. That's the same about American baseball vs. cricket.

Fred

 

[Cornerman]

Mark Selby would currently be, by a very very long way, the head and shoulders outright red hot favourite to win any combined event that consisted of snooker plus uk style 8 ball pool. Look out if that guy ever decides to convert to to the American tables/rules and takes it seriously

The Derby City will be wating for him. I hope he's as personable as Darren Appleton.

Fred

 

[raybo147]

The Derby City will be wating for him. I hope he's as personable as Darren Appleton.

Fred

I do not think Selby will ever make Derby as Jan is busy time for those guys. Shame though I heard he likes to gamble.

 

[jay helfert]

to win the usopen i did get lucky it takes alot of luck to win big 9ball tourneys.like you said im overated and a second tier player thats fine.so you should have no problem playing me 9ball ,1hole,14.1 8ball banks for say 20000 a set.looking forward to seeing you soon

Houston, I think we have lift off!

Go get 'em John. I'm in with you!

 

[smashmouth]

anytime any player is willing to bet 4 figures plus, i would be very carefull about underestimating him

seriously John, it sounds like he's already taken you out of your zone, he's no slouch

 

[jay helfert]

anytime any player is willing to bet 4 figures plus, i would be very carefull about underestimating him

seriously John, it sounds like he's already taken you out of your zone, he's no slouch

Quinten does play good, very good. I've seen his game. But he may be messing with the wrong guy. Q has some weaknesses in his game that John can exploit. Especially if I'm in his corner.

P.S. This is nothing personal with me. I happen to like Q Haan. But when it comes to serious pool action, I like to pick the right horse. If they play all Pool games, John will toast him!

 

[Blackjack]

anytime any player is willing to bet 4 figures plus, i would be very carefull about underestimating him

seriously John, it sounds like he's already taken you out of your zone, he's no slouch

Betting 4 figures is the way you'd rate a guy's speed? This is getting funny.

 

[Heckler]

Forgive me if I'm mistaken, but I thought Quinten Hann was best known for his UK 8-ball specialty. Maybe that was Appleton.

Fred

Mr Hann did actually win the UK 8 Ball world championship. in his one and only attempt at it I believe..cant remember exactly when but not too long ago and certainly during time of the Mick Hills, Darren Appletons and Chris Mellings where all playing.

 

[worriedbeef]

just so people are aware, quinten is currently banned from snooker for eight years i think for match fixing...

 

[poolfire]

i must be

anytime any player is willing to bet 4 figures plus, i would be very carefull about underestimating him

seriously John, it sounds like he's already taken you out of your zone, he's no slouch

I must be a champion then, oh wait a minute, $50.00, you guys dont include the decimal point do you?

 

[Cornerman]

I must be a champion then, oh wait a minute, $50.00, you guys dont include the decimal point do you?

If you bet in pennies...

 

[Jaden]

using hann is kind of ridiculous...

Mr Hann is quite smart, he knows he'll own any snooker portion of a challenge match and thus would be entering the 8 ball portion with no pressure and nothing to lose

a little barking about how snooker players are better, and some ego bruised pool players with cash to spare wanting to show up the loud mouthed aussie.......

this is bad math boys

switch 8 ball to straights or nine ball and he still owns the snooker portion, his chances decrease in the pool portion but he still can't lose the match

Both Alain Robidoux and Kirk Stevens both cracked the top 10 world snooker rankings, both shoot good pool, and both are still only in their 40's, either of them might make a decent match

Alex P might have a shot at the snooker portion on his best day, maybe Cliff Thornburn too,

There are some boys in Montreal that probably have more experience playing and gambling on both games than anyone in the world, Mr Hann could get action there easy, HOWEVER, Mr Hann is known for his temper and that won't fly with those boys in that town

I'm glad Earl doesn't gamble cause he would have a problem over there

Usinbg Hann is kind of ridiculous anyways, it would be like putting efren up against the bottom half of the top twenty snooker players with the games being snooker and one pocket... Efren has the one pocket cinched and has a decent shot at the snooker in just a few games....

 

[smashmouth]

I think Efren's snooker skills may have been a tad exaggerated

 

[Jaden]

yeah but his one pocket isn't

I think Efren's snooker skills may have been a tad exaggerated

His one pocket skills aren't though...

 

[memikey]

Mr Hann did actually win the UK 8 Ball world championship. in his one and only attempt at it I believe..cant remember exactly when but not too long ago and certainly during time of the Mick Hills, Darren Appletons and Chris Mellings where all playing.

He won it at his first attempt in 1999 but he has certainly played at least twice more since then, losing in the last 16 to Chris Melling in 2001 and in Quarter Final to Darren Appleton in 2004

 

[Cornerman]

I think Efren's snooker skills may have been a tad exaggerated

How so? Darryl Peach said he watched him have century breaks. Efren told me that he got an award for fastest century at that tournament (where he played Ronnie).

Fred

 

[Heckler]

He won it at his first attempt in 1999 but he has certainly played at least twice more since then, losing in the last 16 to Chris Melling in 2001 and in Quarter Final to Darren Appleton in 2004

Thanks for clearing that up....didnt know he had been back.....I used to play UK 8ball all the time growing....so was update with it all till I switched to american pool disciplines about 5 years ago.....

 

[JCIN]

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[Scaramouche]

Does Anyone Play Snooker On A Nine Foot Table?

I have been puzzled by some postings on this thread. Then I realized that whenever playing snooker is the U.S. is mentioned, it is always in the context of playing on a 12 foot table. And they are hard to find. Posters who claim to like snooker apparently never play it on a smaller table

Snooker can be played on a smaller table. You can use reinforcements to mark the spots and draw in the baulk semi-circle with chalk if you would like to experiment with the game.

Here is the site of Frank Callan, Hendry's coach. A menu is found at the bottom of the page. The site is somewhat disorganized, but seek and you will find.

http://www.fcsnooker.co.uk/coaching_with_callan/coaching.htm

Opening Break
http://www.fcsnooker.co.uk/intermediate/breaking_off/breaking_off.htm

Personally, I find snooker a more complex and interesting game than 14.1.

Both games have 15 balls in the rack. The break and developing the rack are similar. The colours offer hiding places and add cost benefit analysis - for example - Do you shoot the yellow which gives you 2 points if you make it and costs you 4 points if you miss it

 

[Craig Fales]

If snooker is so simple, how come you get frames like this one (77 minutes) at the just completed UK Championship?

Mark Selby vs Marco Fu
Frame 16
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuiswPx-y-Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iq5f_K5ZmLw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4btOZrfzKA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7g0lVLtvYS0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAWdo1rK0IY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJREso5gWAI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unSS0KDd0S4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGjSXzv8CDE

As for the money, winner Ronnie O'Sullivan took home 130,000 pounds, peanuts compared to the 500,000 pound endorsement contract he signed earlier this year.

Fu's cue sounds like shit...like the ferrule is loose...