No chance for Frost. Harsh reality

Johnnyt said:
Reason I didn't buy stream. Next will be jump cues in 14.1 75th WORLD. Johnnyt
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It is odd either agreed to it. Neither has used one thus far from what I saw and neither's style suggests it will come into play much, if at all.
 
Celtic said:
It is odd either agreed to it. Neither has used one thus far from what I saw and neither's style suggests it will come into play much, if at all.
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IMO Alex kicks way better than Scott does, making it an advantage to Scott. Johnnyt
 
Celtic said:
I don't agree with this. Both Alex and Scott missed a lot of shots in the match. Alex missed a easy shot with ball in hand, he has flubbed a lot of large ball runs with weak shape play, and his banking has been very inconsistent. He is jumping up on a lot of shots and does not look confident on long pots so far, which is uncharacteristic for him because these are all relative hangers compared to his snooker experience. Alex is normally insanely accurate on tight Diamond tables. He out shot SVB on the Fatboy rails and lost only because of his inability to break effectively.

The best offensive ball running in this match was from Scott early in the match when he had some good banks leading to 8 and outs and a 4-2 lead. He simply could not keep up that level of play over the long run with Alex constantly putting pressure on him and giving him so many tough opening shots.

Alex has not turned on the offensive gears yet and is winning this match in the trenches. If Alex gets his offensive ball running and banking to his top gear to go along with his moving ability this could be a fairly short second night of pool because Scott cannot match Alex's best on either front.
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All misses are not created equal. Scott missed and it cost him a lot. But to be honest I've seen more compelling one pocket in my own home room down in Santa Monica than what was displayed here for the most part.

Maybe is just the pressure created by the 25K. When you tune in to watch the greats play you want to see magic. Its rare to see top professionals missing balls.

Hopefully we will see these players each play up to their potential.
 
overlord said:
But to be honest I've seen more compelling one pocket in my own home room down in Santa Monica than what was displayed here for the most part.
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Who down there plays 1-pocket that well? Does 1-pocket Rich still play at all? I heard something funny went on with this stroke and he actually switched hands for a bit, such a crazy story I wondered how much of it was true.

Neil
 
Credit where it's due
Scott has come out today looking focused and moving much better
If he keeps this up
We got a match
 
You seem to recognize one pocket strategy pretty darn good. You would most likely be pretty good in the commentary booth. Just sayin..........

JoeyA

Celtic said:
Frost is a complete killer when playing almost any 1-pocket players on the planet. His offensive style and ability combined with his ability to design traps for his opponent make him a favorite against almost anyone. When listening to the commentary by Scott Rabon and Gentile (two extremely knowledgeable and accomplished 1-pocket players in their own right) you often hear then talk of taking on tough bank shots Scott has forced Alex into, or dangerous tough to accomplish safety returns Scott has forced Alex to play. These two guy who are awesome at 1-pocket being trapped into those tough shots is why Scott is such a feared and effective 1-pocket player. He forces very good players into bad situations where they cannot see any "easy" escapes and they are forced into lower percentage offensive shots or defensive plays. These shots are often played, missed because they are low percentage, and Scott tortures the person for it with his high offense abilities.

The problem is, Alex does not react to Scott's traps like anyone else. While Alex sits and stares at the table and all the different options Rabon and Gentile are saying "Wow, I think he needs to play this bank and run the cueball 4 rails around the table and avoid all the traffic and try to get safe". Then Alex shoots a shot the announcers never even thought of, rolling the cueball safe and taking a foul, or playing a stop-shot and freezing Scott to a ball on the side of the table most 1-pocket players think they "must" get away from and it leaves Scott without the offensive chance he thought his safety was going to gain him. The announcers go "wow, I did not think of that, a simple shot that works", and Scott is left flustered and does not get to torture his opponent like he normally gets to.

Alex is a triple smart 1-pocket player. He does things most 1-pocket players (even the accomplished ones) do not see. He finds shots like that 2 ball carom shot early in the match off of what "looked" like a good break by Scott and gets a game from what looked like nowhere. He does not get forced into the shots that Scott tries to force him to shoot that almost all other players get forced into shooting (and missing). Scott simply does not control a 1-pocket match against Alex like his does with almost any other player on the planet. Alex does not get goaded into shooting the brutally tough shots, he finds ways to spin stuff 180 degrees and back onto Scott and forces HIM to make the tough shots, and that is not how Scott usually plays. Scott is used to forcing the action, but Alex does not let him, he forces it right back onto Scott and Scott to date in this match has had to shoot at least as many tough shots as Alex has been forced into shooting. That is a losing game for Scott because as shotmakers Alex is going to win most of those battles.
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actionplayer said:
I think it was over before the coin toss
But that doesn't mean Scott did
Nor did it mean you did against Oscar when it seemed s mismatch to most of us

Understand now ?
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It's dead even now. This thread is even funnier now.
 
cleary said:
It's dead even now. This thread is even funnier now.
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Alex is shooting like he's dumping

Why is it funny when in any pool room the country you had take Alex 2:1 on the money

Still think Alex will win if he plays his b game

Like I said previously credit to Scott playing great deserves to be back in it
 
cleary said:
It's dead even now. This thread is even funnier now.
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Gotta love this Cleary guy

Never backs anything he says just criticize or be sarcastic tool

As if he knows that it's destined to be even

Funny thing is he uses his own name then you see him on facebook asking for odds on frost since he has no chance

Lol that was six hours ago

Don't like the thread stay off it or say something argumentative with some thought process
 
actionplayer said:
Alex is shooting like he's dumping

Why is it funny when in any pool room the country you had take Alex 2:1 on the money

Still think Alex will win if he plays his b game

Like I said previously credit to Scott playing great deserves to be back in it
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If Alex was dumping I don't think he would've waited until today to start doing it.
There may be more in side bets to win than the price money though.
 
dawgcpa said:
Agreed. These guys really have Scott's game pegged. 100% intimidated...
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I think anyone watching knows that Alex is doing his fair share of work on this turnaround. Scott Frost can absolutely beat "this" Alex. Who the hell knows who this Alex even is, he is donking shots left right and center and is shooting more like a lamb than a lion atm.
 
Alex up 1 game.

He was up 2 games and had 7 balls to maybe 2 and chose to shoot a Houdini shot and Alex instead of making the ball got a load of backblast and wound up losing the game.

Like Scott Rabon and Jay Helfert doing commentary.

JoeyA
 
Harsh reality is they are dead even after 38 games

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