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3RAILKICK

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I am constantly reminded, by my own actions, but I just don't listen.

Last night in league, I was asked to coach a teammate in a tough situation that he inherited on the table.

Mistake #1: I abandoned my usual coaching approach of asking 'what do you like here?' To me, that is generally the best choice, as it reflects the players comfort level of what they are confident of being able to do.

Mistake #2: Instead, I suggested my shot that was based on an very unrealistic opinion of what I might be able to do if I shot the best shot of my life.

With hindsight..This was a formula for failure.

I failed my teammate and the team and myself for suggesting such a bogus possible solution to the layout.


..And then later, shooting basically a spot shot on the 8, and the 9 near a bottom pocket..I played to 'overcut/miss', if missed and 2 rail the cb toward the corner as a two way shot, to hide behind the 9, if missed and have a shot if the 8 falls.

Hit the 8 bad and the cb 2 railed toward the corner pocket to scratch(I thought). I caught if with the shaft in frustration just before it did. BIH to opponent...he got the 8..game over.

I know better than to stop the cb...idiot move. Insult to injury: two teammates immediately tell me that cb was about to hit a pocket point and not scratch .

I cost our team two games last night..pretty stupid..:embarrassed2:
 
The important thing is that sounds like you learned from your mistakes. We all pull bone headed moves on occasion. I did the same thing with a cueball once but missed the cueball with my stick; it didn't scratch (have no idea how it didn't) but came off the rail and it my stick that I still had the tip on the table. I was on the 8 ball and playing bca. The guy got ball in hand on the 8 due to my stupid mistake...oh well; live and learn. Have never stopped a cueball before a scratch since !
 
You need to do it...,

3RAILKICK said:
I am constantly reminded, by my own actions, but I just don't listen.

Last night in league, I was asked to coach a teammate in a tough situation that he inherited on the table.

Mistake #1: I abandoned my usual coaching approach of asking 'what do you like here?' To me, that is generally the best choice, as it reflects the players comfort level of what they are confident of being able to do.

Mistake #2: Instead, I suggested my shot that was based on an very unrealistic opinion of what I might be able to do if I shot the best shot of my life.

With hindsight..This was a formula for failure.

I failed my teammate and the team and myself for suggesting such a bogus possible solution to the layout.


..And then later, shooting basically a spot shot on the 8, and the 9 near a bottom pocket..I played to 'overcut/miss', if missed and 2 rail the cb toward the corner as a two way shot, to hide behind the 9, if missed and have a shot if the 8 falls.

Hit the 8 bad and the cb 2 railed toward the corner pocket to scratch(I thought). I caught if with the shaft in frustration just before it did. BIH to opponent...he got the 8..game over.

I know better than to stop the cb...idiot move. Insult to injury: two teammates immediately tell me that cb was about to hit a pocket point and not scratch .

I cost our team two games last night..pretty stupid..:embarrassed2:
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Grady Mathews said "until you have lost every kinda way possible, you can never become a champion". I have played league, tournaments and gamble too, don't count your mistakes, just remember that you are making fewer and fewer on the road to good play.
 
There is a difference between being stupid and inexperienced. Sounds like the OP learned a lot from the experience, which is an obvious sign that they are not stupid.

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Well in life and in pool I find the same approach, I think this might be Grady Matthews or Billy Incardona quote.

"When in trouble, do something simple."

What I find is most think they have to come with a shot that is 1 out of 25 or maybe even 1 out of 100 possibility to be made.

My goal when I am in trouble is to "Live to fight another day" verses trying to "win it" with a low percentage shot.

One shot that is EXTREMELY RARE to see in league play but is OFTEN done while gambling. You are in an extremely low percentage position to make a good hit on your ball, and if you do make a good hit, the table layout is such that a run-out is child's play. PURPOSELY FOUL AND TIE UP 2 OR MORE OF YOUR OPPONENTS BALLS. Typically what I see a league player do is just pick up the ball and hand it to the opponent. What an idiot move. If you are going to foul, foul in such a way that your opponent is in a worse position. Make the foul give you value.

If you play the game to learn, you need to learn from the guys that know this type of strategy. I just don't see if often in league play.

JMO

Ken
 
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3RAILKICK said:
I am constantly reminded, by my own actions, but I just don't listen.

Last night in league, I was asked to coach a teammate in a tough situation that he inherited on the table.

Mistake #1: I abandoned my usual coaching approach of asking 'what do you like here?' To me, that is generally the best choice, as it reflects the players comfort level of what they are confident of being able to do.

Mistake #2: Instead, I suggested my shot that was based on an very unrealistic opinion of what I might be able to do if I shot the best shot of my life.

With hindsight..This was a formula for failure.

I failed my teammate and the team and myself for suggesting such a bogus possible solution to the layout.


..And then later, shooting basically a spot shot on the 8, and the 9 near a bottom pocket..I played to 'overcut/miss', if missed and 2 rail the cb toward the corner as a two way shot, to hide behind the 9, if missed and have a shot if the 8 falls.

Hit the 8 bad and the cb 2 railed toward the corner pocket to scratch(I thought). I caught if with the shaft in frustration just before it did. BIH to opponent...he got the 8..game over.

I know better than to stop the cb...idiot move. Insult to injury: two teammates immediately tell me that cb was about to hit a pocket point and not scratch .

I cost our team two games last night..pretty stupid..:embarrassed2:
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When something like this happens to me my first thought is 'I wonder when the alarm clock is gonna go off' because nothing like this ever happens to me in real life. :p :grin-square: :p

but seriously, folks. Of course it does - and has.

The fact that you can come on here and lay this out for your az brother's opinions speaks loudly of your character. :thumbup:

you got off track from your norm and it didn't serve you and your team well.

Now, back to what works best.

btw, I really like your approach and do it myself where you first ask the player getting the time out what their thoughts are before making any suggestions.

You're a good man and I'm certain, a great team mate.

carry on.

best,
brian kc
 
thanks Brian....but this was realllllllly stupid...asked him to hit long distance stun from nearly hooked cb position, to bank 8 and play the 9.

That's pretty sporty if not impossible.

Clearly..it should have been an 8 ball bank with enormous top right 'top stop' action to make the 9.:eek:

makes more sense with an illustration:




...I forgot to tell teammate to hit 8 like he was trying to dislodge the bottom rail.:confused:
 
3RAILKICK,
You are forgiven. You are allowed 1 bad night to offset ALL of the GREAT nights of coaching and playing. Brian KC, 3RAILKICK is the BEST possible teammate anyone can have. I know, because I am his teammate.
 
lol...thanks Mark..both very debatable, but thanks.


...still think I could have made the 9 in 20 tries...oh wait, that's what led to my poor coaching advice in the first place:eek:


...done
 
3RAILKICK said:
I am constantly reminded, by my own actions, but I just don't listen.

Last night in league, I was asked to coach a teammate in a tough situation that he inherited on the table.

Mistake #1: I abandoned my usual coaching approach of asking 'what do you like here?' To me, that is generally the best choice, as it reflects the players comfort level of what they are confident of being able to do.

Mistake #2: Instead, I suggested my shot that was based on an very unrealistic opinion of what I might be able to do if I shot the best shot of my life.

With hindsight..This was a formula for failure.

I failed my teammate and the team and myself for suggesting such a bogus possible solution to the layout.


..And then later, shooting basically a spot shot on the 8, and the 9 near a bottom pocket..I played to 'overcut/miss', if missed and 2 rail the cb toward the corner as a two way shot, to hide behind the 9, if missed and have a shot if the 8 falls.

Hit the 8 bad and the cb 2 railed toward the corner pocket to scratch(I thought). I caught if with the shaft in frustration just before it did. BIH to opponent...he got the 8..game over.

I know better than to stop the cb...idiot move. Insult to injury: two teammates immediately tell me that cb was about to hit a pocket point and not scratch .

I cost our team two games last night..pretty stupid..:embarrassed2:
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Good grief, you are the dumbest stupidhead I ever did hear of.

There, ya feeling better now?

Just another layer of knowledge that will contribute to your pool knowledge going forward...you did it, you recognized it and you learned from it. Go get um!
 
And I like to hit hit the L) side of the 8 and leave 8 on bottom pictured rail, cb on top pictured one, like dis:
 

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