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m79a

m79a

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Got a guy i gamble with often, once or twice a week. I overlook a lot of little sharking crap he does mostly because I've won a significant amount of money from him in the last year. He gives me the call 8, I give him the break. He's done a lot of stuff like walk in front of the pocket while I'm shooting money ball, stop me while i'm down on the 8 to pick a piece of lint off the table between the 8 and cue ball. I always call the 8, but when we play 8 ball we don't call the obvious. He's tried to claim i didn't call the 8 when i did. Well i didn't call it on a straight in shot and we were on the hill. He;s says you didn't call the 8, I didn't. I didn't shoot for shape on the 9. i turn and fired the 9 in the corner in jawed goes cross corner and falls.Then he laughs and says I wasn't going to make you shoot that which was total bs.
 
m79a said:
Got a guy i gamble with often, once or twice a week. I overlook a lot of little sharking crap he does mostly because I've won a significant amount of money from him...
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Just remind yourself "the customer is always right".
 
Picking lint off the table during your shot and him claiming you didn't call a obvious shot is REALLY bad. If somebody is blatantly being disrespectful perhaps you should find another person to play with. Its good you took the money but was it worth it? In my mind it isn't. You should be enjoying yourself when you play pool.
 
TATE said:
Just remind yourself "the customer is always right".
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Exactly...

To the OP.

I am resisting a strong temptation here to lecture you, but instead
will just comment. IMHO - more important than the fact that you are still
winning his money, you would do well to dramatically revamp your
attitude toward "sharking". And yes I do speak from hard earned, firsthand
experience.

The simple truth is, if you allow sharking to get to you that indicates you
need to improve your ability to focus on those things that really do matter.

It might help to consider the following ideas:

In no order of importance.

1. If he is trying to shark you that means you both think he can't win.
Remind yourself of that.

2. Good players can not be sharked. Learn to ignore/ block out
all distractions. This has the added value that it will almost
certainly make you a better player.

3. Never let them see you sweat. If you don't react to his shenanigans
but instead just gaze at him like Buddha with a cue stick, he will likely
quit doing them. Though this runs a very high risk of killing your action.

Dale(partially unsharkable)
 
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m79a said:
Got a guy i gamble with often, once or twice a week. I overlook a lot of little sharking crap he does mostly because I've won a significant amount of money from him in the last year. He gives me the call 8, I give him the break. He's done a lot of stuff like walk in front of the pocket while I'm shooting money ball, stop me while i'm down on the 8 to pick a piece of lint off the table between the 8 and cue ball. I always call the 8, but when we play 8 ball we don't call the obvious. He's tried to claim i didn't call the 8 when i did. Well i didn't call it on a straight in shot and we were on the hill. He;s says you didn't call the 8, I didn't. I didn't shoot for shape on the 9. i turn and fired the 9 in the corner in jawed goes cross corner and falls.Then he laughs and says I wasn't going to make you shoot that which was total bs.
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You already said you over look things because you can beat him, so what do you really care. I used to play guys who would change the rules in the middle of the game. One guy always stiffed me on the last game like every time and would never mention it the next time we played. What did I care if it made him happy feeling he was getting something over on me. I just want him to keep playing. You can put up with a lot when you are making money.

Best thing is to just lay out how you are going to play before hand.
 
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pdcue said:
Exactly...

To the OP.

I am resisting a strong temptation here to lecture you, but instead
will just comment. IMHO - more important than the fact that you are still
winning his money, you would do well to dramatically revamp your
attitude toward "sharking". And yes I do speak from hard earned, firsthand
experience.

The simple truth is, if you allow sharking to get to you that indicates you
need to improve your ability to focus on those things that really do matter.

It might help to consider the following ideas:

In no order of importance.

1. If he is trying to shark you that means you both think he can't win.
Remind yourself of that.

2. Good players can not be sharked. Learn to ignore/ block out
all distractions. This has the added value that it will almost
certainly make you a better player.

3. Never let them see you sweat. If you don't react to his shenanigans
but instead just gaze at him like Buddha with a cue stick, he will likely
quit doing them. Though this runs a very high risk of killing your action.

Dale(partially unsharkable)
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Rep to you buddy.
 
Besides, you've already set the tone by putting up with it. If you start complaining about it when you're losing, it just makes you look bad, imho.
 
m79a said:
Got a guy i gamble with often, once or twice a week. I overlook a lot of little sharking crap he does mostly because I've won a significant amount of money from him in the last year. He gives me the call 8, I give him the break. He's done a lot of stuff like walk in front of the pocket while I'm shooting money ball, stop me while i'm down on the 8 to pick a piece of lint off the table between the 8 and cue ball. I always call the 8, but when we play 8 ball we don't call the obvious. He's tried to claim i didn't call the 8 when i did. Well i didn't call it on a straight in shot and we were on the hill. He;s says you didn't call the 8, I didn't. I didn't shoot for shape on the 9. i turn and fired the 9 in the corner in jawed goes cross corner and falls.Then he laughs and says I wasn't going to make you shoot that which was total bs.
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When playing someone for money, the ONLY thing you pay attention to...is if you're getting paid or not, that's the bottom line when it comes to playing for money, it has nothing to do with the other player, how they act, or don't act. If you can't fade the BS then stop playing for money, it's really that simple.
 
I don't care how much money an idiot I can't stand playing with is willing to lose. Not worth it at all to me. The guy you are playing would drive me nuts, and I woulda handed his money back the first time I played him, and wished him luck in his future playing. If he has that much of a lack of respect for me and the game we are playing; I don't want his money. I'd rather lose to someone I like and respect, than win from someone I cannot tolerate. :sorry:
 
pdcue said:
Exactly...

To the OP.

I am resisting a strong temptation here to lecture you, but instead
will just comment. IMHO - more important than the fact that you are still
winning his money, you would do well to dramatically revamp your
attitude toward "sharking". And yes I do speak from hard earned, firsthand
experience.

The simple truth is, if you allow sharking to get to you that indicates you
need to improve your ability to focus on those things that really do matter.

It might help to consider the following ideas:

In no order of importance.

1. If he is trying to shark you that means you both think he can't win.
Remind yourself of that.

2. Good players can not be sharked. Learn to ignore/ block out
all distractions. This has the added value that it will almost
certainly make you a better player.

3. Never let them see you sweat. If you don't react to his shenanigans
but instead just gaze at him like Buddha with a cue stick, he will likely
quit doing them. Though this runs a very high risk of killing your action.

Dale(partially unsharkable)
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Cuban Joe was one of the truly best sharks in LA at one time. I brought a good player to Hollywood and Cuban Joe was there. My friend beat him out of $200. He pulled the money from his case after flashing a snub nosed .38 at us. (I knew he was clowning around - I liked Joe).

Next time I was in Joe is working some South Americans with money in their socks. He was laughing and banging balls and these guys were having the time of their lives. They couldn't play a bit! He was seemingly getting so lucky too and hooking them, then missing and having the ball "slop" in -and he just laughed at his "luck" was he milked these guys for everything they had.

Joe really knew how to find and treat customers.
 
trustyrusty said:
I don't care how much money an idiot I can't stand playing with is willing to lose. Not worth it at all to me. The guy you are playing would drive me nuts, and I woulda handed his money back the first time I played him, and wished him luck in his future playing. If he has that much of a lack of respect for me and the game we are playing; I don't want his money. I'd rather lose to someone I like and respect, than win from someone I cannot tolerate. :sorry:
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You'd would have never been able to feed yourself playing for money then;)
 
trustyrusty said:
I don't care how much money an idiot I can't stand playing with is willing to lose. Not worth it at all to me. The guy you are playing would drive me nuts, and I woulda handed his money back the first time I played him, and wished him luck in his future playing. If he has that much of a lack of respect for me and the game we are playing; I don't want his money. I'd rather lose to someone I like and respect, than win from someone I cannot tolerate. :sorry:
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Well speedo, since you are obviously waaaay to noble to play for money,
allow me to add what I should have included in my first post.

To wit:
"the advice is equally valid for tournament or league competition".

Dale
 
There's no money worth your sanity.If he bugs you that much don't play him.

If you ask him not to do certain things and still proceeds to do the same things,
then he's not just disrespecting you as a player but as a person as well.
 
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