Ok, do pros play on equipment that allows for easier draw?

pmata814

pmata814

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...because i was just watching a 2017 US Open match (8 ball) on utube where Van Boening hit a behind the back power draw the entire length of the table! I know these guys have great strokes and all but that seems pretty extreme to me. He looked very uncomfortable and still drew from the corner pocket to the other end of the table!

Here is the link:
https://youtu.be/Sq2xo6dxHb8

At the 2:15:54 mark

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If they play on new cloth, yes, that allows for easy draw. If not, it's the same challenge for them and you. Only, them, are better.

All the best,
WW
 
New cloth and heat from the lights for the video equipment both help make the table play faster.
i would think he could do it even without those aids. It's just harder
 
New cloth means a lot, but the cue ball is also a major factor. A new ball or a CB that has been recently been cleaned/polished will draw like an artist.
 
Gotta stroke it. Don't poke it.
I could still draw the ball a couple table lengths if it
were covered in shag carpet. Lol.
Pros practice to the point that their fundamentals
allow them to compensate and perform on varying
table conditions.
They do indeed make things look easy on occasion.
As mentioned, most tournaments have fresh cloth,
and the lights def help keep humidity at bay.
 
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Drawing table length when the CB and OB are only a diamond apart is really not a big deal. When I see players draw like Buddy Hall demos then I hope I don't have to play them.... CB by one corner and OB hung in the opposite corner....CB goes up and back with no apparent difficulty. Mitch
 
pmata814 said:
...because i was just watching a 2017 US Open match (8 ball) on utube where Van Boening hit a behind the back power draw the entire length of the table! I know these guys have great strokes and all but that seems pretty extreme to me. He looked very uncomfortable and still drew from the corner pocket to the other end of the table!

Here is the link:
https://youtu.be/Sq2xo6dxHb8

At the 2:15:54 mark

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That match is 2hrs long. Where's the shot you refer to? BTW, their strokes are better than you can imagine AND fresh cloth is REALLY easy to draw on. On new Simonis 8ft.+ draws are not real difficult.
 
mike massey could always draw the ball a long way
even on slower cloth

if i remember correctly.he could be way up on the wrong end,and make the object ball and draw the cue ball 2 long rails to get shape way back on the pother end

he is the king of stroke in my mind
 
deanoc said:
mike massey could always draw the ball a long way
even on slower cloth

if i remember correctly.he could be way up on the wrong end,and make the object ball and draw the cue ball 2 long rails to get shape way back on the pother end

he is the king of stroke in my mind
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NO doubt Deano. The only two people that i've seen super-draw on worn/slow cloth are Mike and Earl. Mike's tip-speed at impact is crazy. On new cloth his cueball sits and spins doin a burnout before it backs-up. Unreal.
 
garczar said:
NO doubt Deano. The only two people that i've seen super-draw on worn/slow cloth are Mike and Earl. Mike's tip-speed at impact is crazy. On new cloth his cueball sits and spins doin a burnout before it backs-up. Unreal.
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Larry Nevel. No man has a stroke bigger than his. He can outdraw Massey one handed.
 
pmata814 said:
...because i was just watching a 2017 US Open match (8 ball) on utube where Van Boening hit a behind the back power draw the entire length of the table! I know these guys have great strokes and all but that seems pretty extreme to me. He looked very uncomfortable and still drew from the corner pocket to the other end of the table!

Here is the link:
https://youtu.be/Sq2xo6dxHb8

At the 2:15:54 mark

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Sorry. It's at the 1:59:21 mark.

When i posted last night i was using my tablet. Some how got screwed up.


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I know it's not a big deal to draw when balls are a diamond apart if u have a proper stance, but the way hez contorted with the cue behind his back just looks super uncomfortable and hard to put a good stroke on the ball.

The correct mark is 1:59:21 BTW.

Thanks for all the responses.


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Well it is tougher to do if you are an old fat man.:grin:

pmata814 said:
I know it's not a big deal to draw when balls are a diamond apart if u have a proper stance, but the way hez contorted with the cue behind his back just looks super uncomfortable and hard to put a good stroke on the ball.

The correct mark is 1:59:21 BTW.

Thanks for all the responses.


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its a lot tougher to do when you play with the equipment in a regular pool room. all those trick shots are done with silicon cleaners on the balls so they take off like lightening. nothing but a gaff. just cleaning the balls with a polishing cleaner make them go twice as far on fast cloth.
 
pmata814 said:
...because i was just watching a 2017 US Open match (8 ball) on utube where Van Boening hit a behind the back power draw the entire length of the table! ...
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The cloth is fast, and that helps him. Notice that he didn't hit the ball very hard. I think that distance of draw is easily within the ability of anyone who has been playing a year and on standard equipment except for the behind the back part. It might not look as smooth for a relative beginner, but that distance is in no way exceptional and I would not call it a power draw.
 
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