Okay who oredered a Balance Rite Extension in the past few days

Assuming the balance point is measured from the end of the butt of the cue (which, I believe, it always is).

Take a 58", two-piece cue with a balance point at 20" (hypothetically)...add a 4" extension at the joint that weighs 3 ounces (again hypothetically).

The balance point of that cue will no longer be at 20". It would move toward the tip end, probably end up around 22".

Forget ANYBODY holding or gripping or bridging with the cue. Balanced on a sharp edge (like a knife blade)...undoubtedly the balance point is going to move up the cue towards the tip.

That said...I am only stating a shift in balance of the cue...not talking at all about how said cue FEELS in one's hands after the change.

I hope I have posted this in a way that settles this argument. If someone has a different opinion, I will read it and take heed...but I am not going to post again to argue the point.

Maniac
 
Maniac said:
The balance point of that cue will no longer be at 20". It would move toward the tip end, probably end up around 22".

Maniac
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This is the only part that is correct .... And it doesn't matter where the extension is added.

Hypothetically, if the length of the cue has increased by 4" and the balance point has moved up 2" from the bottom, it has therefore also moved 2" down from the tip. In that situation you have proportionately the same amount of cue on either side of the balance point, so the balance point hasn't changed at all...... And it doesn't matter where along the butt the extension is added.

This was never intended to be an argument. I'm just presenting simple facts so people using an extension understand what's really going on. The longer you make the cue, the further back the balance point of the cue moves in relation to where you grip the cue, assuming your bridge to grip distance does not change after adding the extension.

Believe me, I have shown people this first hand. Many people like Balance-Rite extensions because the cue length increases and the cue feels more stable and balanced. No argument there. However, their claim of giving a cue "more forward weight" is very misleading.
 
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JohnPT said:
Sorry, I type slow and wasn't really done when I hit sent.

I am not discounting the fact that adding weight and length may change where we hold the cue and that affects one's perception of balance but that's not necessarily the definition of "balance point." Call it perceived balance or something else because the true balance point is that physical point along the length of the cue where there is equal weight on either side that you could balance it on a pin.

To say that adding an extension no matter if it's at the joint or at the butt will still move the balance point rearward because you now are holding the cue different is a bit misleading.

I am just arguing the definition of "balance point."
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Did you never read the other guy's post ? He knows the definition of a balance point. So you're arguing a non-point. Where the balance point falls as you grip it is much more important than teaching a definition of balance point. That's his point. The definition of the balance point and how it affects the loaded system means nothing if the system doesn't include the parts that hold the cue. This is simple engineering (statics). The cue doesn't balance on its own in the player/cue system.

He knows how to balance a cue and figure the balance point. Once you agree that he knows this, then address his points . Continuing to try to define where the balance point falls over and over again on a cue resting on a ball or fingers is reading very weird.

Freddie <~~~ who's on first
 
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Well all I can say is I have one and now my cue feels heavier up front, just like I expected it to be. I used to have a habit of bringing my tip up on my flow through on some shots and this seems to have helped me keep my tip down. But overall I'm still not shooting up to par yet. Takes some getting used to.

Most importantly, I painted it black and I really like how it looks now. :thumbup:
 
I played for a week with Balance rite extension, the first couple days were strange, the cue feels normal, but my pocketing was down. After 4-5 days, the cue seems to shoot better. However I still have to get use with cue, also I observed that playing with a 11.75 mm tip seems to be better than with a 13 mm tip. What you think about this? A longer cue is working better with a 11.75mm tip or with a 13 mm?
 
AlexandruM said:
I played for a week with Balance rite extension, the first couple days were strange, the cue feels normal, but my pocketing was down. After 4-5 days, the cue seems to shoot better. However I still have to get use with cue, also I observed that playing with a 11.75 mm tip seems to be better than with a 13 mm tip. What you think about this? A longer cue is working better with a 11.75mm tip or with a 13 mm?
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I bought one after the billiards expo because I was watching the pros play with it. I actually bought one long time ago, and used it on the 5/16x14 joss COM cue. Didn't like the way it felt...plus all the shafts had "rolls" to them. This thing made the rolls worse since everything wasn't 100% faced.

Anyway, bought one again for my OB with 11.75 Pro shaft. It did feel like it hit better, and it seemed easier to pocket balls. I don't know if it's because the stroke got a little more controlled due to the front weight. But the hit felt crisper.


Ultimate I sold it because I really didn't liked the way it looked on my cue. Small things like that bother me ;) Maybe if they made it without the balance rite logo being so big. Surprisingly it was flushed and faced properly with my OB cue.
 
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