Old Style Box Cases

StraightPoolIU

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Just a thought I was pondering the other day when and why did the old fashioned hard box cue cases go out of style? I have a feeling it was a matter of practicality since people started carrying more cues and shafts with them, but I was wondering if it was also kind of a style thing. I'm surprised someone hasn't tried to bring them back as a retro thing.
 
there was a fellow called Florida Fred recently who made very nice wooden cases. $200 and up if I remember correctly. Do a search and see what comes up.
 
Good Point

StraightPoolIU said:
Just a thought I was pondering the other day when and why did the old fashioned hard box cue cases go out of style? I have a feeling it was a matter of practicality since people started carrying more cues and shafts with them, but I was wondering if it was also kind of a style thing. I'm surprised someone hasn't tried to bring them back as a retro thing.


If the problem with the old hard box 1 x 2 case is the size or space it took up, think about this concept. I have a 12 x 24 case. It is no thicker than my 1 x 2 hard box case(I have 2 of them they are functional but I think they looked dorky compare to the sleek loooking Fellini cases that became popular, I'm guessing in the middle to late 80's. If you used the same concept with the 1 x 2 that was used with the 12 x 24, you have a separator, and compartments in the tpo portion of the case. That would make the case a 2 x 4. Very usable size. But if they still look dorky, then they are dorkey. But I have always liked them. My 2 cents.
 
I like the box cases also even though I carry a tube type now. I just got a solid walnut blank originally destined for a gunstock. If I can figure out how to layout a 2bx3s in this piece of walnut, there will be sawdust in the air. As far as box cases being "old school", check Fast Eddies tube case in the original "Hustler" movie.
Bill
 
In the "Twilight Zone", "A Game of Pool" episode

In the "Twilight Zone", "A Game of Pool" episode, Johnathon Winters played an old pool shark, and had an unusual case. It was similar to an "It's George", maybe a 2x2 tube with a luggage handle, and black leather. I saw one go on ebay a little over a year ago.
 
StraightPoolIU said:
Just a thought I was pondering the other day when and why did the old fashioned hard box cue cases go out of style? I have a feeling it was a matter of practicality since people started carrying more cues and shafts with them, but I was wondering if it was also kind of a style thing. I'm surprised someone hasn't tried to bring them back as a retro thing.

They are a little too cumbersome. However many hundreds of thousands are still sold, mainly in the 1x1 and 1x2 sizes.

I am going to bring out a line of new style box cases. In fact I am gearing up right now to start making cases again so you will see a resurgence in a lot of styles. As well I am going to make a limited number of unique 100% made-to-order custom cases.

I hope that my new designs for the box and other styles will take off. I personally have always been a fan of the box case and I designed a pretty cool one about five years ago that never made it to production. There are two of them in the USA somewhere as I sold the prototypes.

Look for JB Cases coming soon.
 
I'd be very interested in your new cases, maybe a nice 2+2 with a strap

ever since I cracked a shaft removing it from a tube I've always longed for a sweet looking box case,
 
whitey2 said:
In the "Twilight Zone", "A Game of Pool" episode, Johnathon Winters played an old pool shark, and had an unusual case. It was similar to an "It's George", maybe a 2x2 tube with a luggage handle, and black leather. I saw one go on ebay a little over a year ago.
I would have to look again to be sure, but I think it was a Brunswick style case.
Chuck
 
StraightPoolIU said:
Just a thought I was pondering the other day when and why did the old fashioned hard box cue cases go out of style? I have a feeling it was a matter of practicality since people started carrying more cues and shafts with them, but I was wondering if it was also kind of a style thing. I'm surprised someone hasn't tried to bring them back as a retro thing.

It was Fellini cases that killed the lugage style boxes.
Round about the early 70s. I would say it was all about "style",
the boxes were more practical, but the Fellinis were sleek and
all were covered with genuine leather - virtually all the box cases
were vinyl.

The change had nothing to do with more cues, 1 butt, 2 shafts, and maybe a spare key, was the absolute max you could fit in a Fellini
in those days there were no break cues, jump cues, etc.
players had one cue with two shafts, and they used it for everything.

IIUC - Jay Flowers was the first to make the shoulder-strap, all leather,
looks-like-a-sadle-and-weighs-more 2 x 4 case.
It's George and Porper were both early with 2x4 cases,
anybody know who was the very first?

Dale
 
I like the hard box cases, I have one that I carry my spare cue in thats just a little 20 dollar 1x1 that I picked up as my first case, I have since moved onto the bigger 2x2 action hard case mostly because it has the space I want for my chalker, my moose head bridge head, my cue holder and a couple small tip tools. Now if someone were to come up with a box case that could hold 2x2 and have a compartment or compartments that were about 8"x8"x3" each (2 compartments) then I would snatch one up in a heart beat.

Think the only way I am going to get that though is to build my own, I think I may just tear down my current box case and either use parts from it and use it as a basic design to start me out.
 
pdcue said:
It was Fellini cases that killed the lugage style boxes.
Round about the early 70s. I would say it was all about "style",
the boxes were more practical, but the Fellinis were sleek and
all were covered with genuine leather - virtually all the box cases
were vinyl.

The change had nothing to do with more cues, 1 butt, 2 shafts, and maybe a spare key, was the absolute max you could fit in a Fellini
in those days there were no break cues, jump cues, etc.
players had one cue with two shafts, and they used it for everything.

IIUC - Jay Flowers was the first to make the shoulder-strap, all leather,
looks-like-a-sadle-and-weighs-more 2 x 4 case.
It's George and Porper were both early with 2x4 cases,
anybody know who was the very first?

Dale

Bob Meucci?

I think Bob told me that he was the first with foam core style cases and that he helped Porper get set up with the molding machine. He didn't mention anything about sizes.

But that conversation happened many moons ago in boozy Las Vegas.
 
lifebyfire21 said:
I like the hard box cases, I have one that I carry my spare cue in thats just a little 20 dollar 1x1 that I picked up as my first case, I have since moved onto the bigger 2x2 action hard case mostly because it has the space I want for my chalker, my moose head bridge head, my cue holder and a couple small tip tools. Now if someone were to come up with a box case that could hold 2x2 and have a compartment or compartments that were about 8"x8"x3" each (2 compartments) then I would snatch one up in a heart beat.

Think the only way I am going to get that though is to build my own, I think I may just tear down my current box case and either use parts from it and use it as a basic design to start me out.

That's how I started Instroke. I was unhappy with the cases then and decided to build my own. I took apart my Flowers and rebuilt the interior and did a little work on the exterior. Then I decided to go all the way and built one from scratch and the rest is history.
 
John Barton said:
They are a little too cumbersome. However many hundreds of thousands are still sold, mainly in the 1x1 and 1x2 sizes.

I am going to bring out a line of new style box cases. In fact I am gearing up right now to start making cases again so you will see a resurgence in a lot of styles. As well I am going to make a limited number of unique 100% made-to-order custom cases.

I hope that my new designs for the box and other styles will take off. I personally have always been a fan of the box case and I designed a pretty cool one about five years ago that never made it to production. There are two of them in the USA somewhere as I sold the prototypes.

Look for JB Cases coming soon.


I want a 2x2 with a compartment the length of the case, about 3" wide and 3" deep when closed. I don't care if the compartment has a dedicated lid, the case lid will suffice. Tough vinyl so I don't have to worry about it and the bottom side should be a color matched plastic of some sort.. so when laid on a table or counter it won't matter if there happens to be water/beer/whiskey/soda spilled there. I'm tired of having to clean the counter/table prior to laying my case down so I want a bottom side that is so tough that whatever it is laid in won't leave a mark. I'd want a really good handle, protected corners, asst colors available (I want brown). $250 max.
 
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I always liked them also. Here is my very first cue with box case from 1975.:)
 

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JimS said:
I want a 2x2 with a compartment the length of the case, about 3" wide and 3" deep when closed. I don't care if the compartment has a dedicated lid, the case lid will suffice. Tough vinyl so I don't have to worry about it and the bottom side should be a color matched plastic of some sort.. so when laid on a table or counter it won't matter if there happens to be water/beer/whiskey/soda spilled there. I'm tired of having to clean the counter/table prior to laying my case down so I want a bottom side that is so tough that whatever it is laid in won't leave a mark. I'd want a really good handle, protected corners, asst colors available (I want brown). $250 max.

My first order? :-) Wow this feels like the begining again! All right, listen, email me at cases-at-jbideas.com and let's talk about it. I believe I can accommodate you given that budget.

Cool.
 
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