"One guy offered me 10k for the cue... I'll probably keep it til I retire."

The more and more I read your posts, I wonder if you have a secret goal to offend everyone on here using that hot dog holder of a mouth.

Over and over again you show your ignorance on a plethora of topics.

Do you even play pool? Have you ever bet rain is wet or fat meat is greasy? I've not heard one single dime wagered by you. Although you are quick to tell everyone about your collection of high end cues that you apparently can't hold.

Ken_4fun said:
Reminds me of the old joke about the two fools.

The first fool offered him $10K for the cue.

The second fool is the guy that refused the $10K offer.

Ken
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tommyceilings said:
The more and more I read your posts, I wonder if you have a secret goal to offend everyone on here using that hot dog holder of a mouth.

Over and over again you show your ignorance on a plethora of topics.

Do you even play pool? Have you ever bet rain is wet or fat meat is greasy? I've not heard one single dime wagered by you. Although you are quick to tell everyone about your collection of high end cues that you apparently can't hold.
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Easy there Ivan.

My mouth may hold hot dogs.....I pretty sure I can guess what your mouth holds....

I think you might be the HUMAN ATM MACHINE that never won a match.

I have seen a guy like you once that couldnt make a business fly even when he was married to the landlord's daughter...

Ken
 
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While it's true it's all in your head (thinking one r360 is gonna be much different from another)...

"Your head" is a huge part of your pool game. Doing anything that messes with your head
can bring your game down, and telling yourself "It's all psychological" doesn't always work or help.

I can certainly understand why Shane would opt to hold on to it. He is one of the very few players
who can say he doesn't need the money, and it arguably could cost him money if some tiny
doubt sneaks in his head on a critical shot. Dennis Orcullo sounds the same way in this article.
 
Ken_4fun said:
KY BOY-

Its the Indian not the Arrow.

Efren maybe the greatest pool player of all time plays with $15 cue.

Your hypothetical is silly, but I will play along.

Shane got the cue for free, he has unlimited resources to get another one that is exactly like it for free.

Yes, I would sell it because I know I can take another cue and do the exact modifictions that I know I need to do to the next cue for free.

If he had a Balabushka or a Gus or some other cuemaker that has passed and cannot be replaced then maybe I would rethink it.

Pete Margo - Sold his Balabushka he won the world champion with.
The Miz - Sold his too.
Ray Martin sold his Balabushka, and last I knew he was playing with a Randy Mobley cue.

I would have kept those because those are irreplaceable, but a Cuetech that I can get one of the pile, would have gone down the road.

Ken
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Silly, how so?

I think you fail to see several points here...

1. Shane feels comfortable with the cue and has won lots of money and tourney's with it garnering sentimental attachment.
2. Sometimes, it's not about the money.
3. It's SHANE'S cue and he can do with it as he sees fit.
4. Sometimes, it's not about the money.
5. While he can get another cue for free, he doesn't want one.
6. Sometimes, it's not about the money.
7. Maybe for some, it's a combination of the indian and the arrow.
8. It's not always about the money
9. If he continues to use the cue the value may increase.
10. It's not always about the money.

:D

Gary
 
bud green said:
The most accomplished snooker player in history, Stephen Hendry, had his cue stolen in 1990. He ended up paying over 10 grand to get it back.

He made millions of dollars with it after getting it back...I'm sure he doesn't regret paying off at all.
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Where are you getting your information?

Stephen Hendry lost his cue during a flight. He then offered 10K for it to be returned. He got it back in pieces because it was broken. I don't know if this how it went down exactly, but for sure, he nevered played with the cue again because it was broken.

And I am pretty sure he mentioned he never was able to play as well as with his old cue.
 
Ken_4fun said:
KY BOY-

Its the Indian not the Arrow.

Efren maybe the greatest pool player of all time plays with $15 cue.

Your hypothetical is silly, but I will play along.

Shane got the cue for free, he has unlimited resources to get another one that is exactly like it for free.

Yes, I would sell it because I know I can take another cue and do the exact modifictions that I know I need to do to the next cue for free.

If he had a Balabushka or a Gus or some other cuemaker that has passed and cannot be replaced then maybe I would rethink it.

Pete Margo - Sold his Balabushka he won the world champion with.
The Miz - Sold his too.
Ray Martin sold his Balabushka, and last I knew he was playing with a Randy Mobley cue.

I would have kept those because those are irreplaceable, but a Cuetech that I can get one of the pile, would have gone down the road.

Ken
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If Shane feels he plays better with this particular cue than the average R360 he will play better. Pool is a very mental game, I would also bet that Shane could tell the difference between his cue and other R360's blindfolded by hitting a few balls.

I have cues from most of the top cue makers and I can honestly say that some of them play better than others that I have hit balls with. I am a terrible player that can tell a difference between cues from the same maker. R360's are going to play different from year to year based on the wood, glue, manufacturing etc...

Every tournament that he wins increases the value of THAT cue, could you imagine having a guitar that Elvis played his entire life? According to your logic Elvis should of played with a different guitar every day and sold it right after his concert. If Shane never plays with another cue his entire career and decides to sell the cue it will be worth a lot more than 10K, I know because I would pay more than that for it. I hope he keeps it and gives it to his future children but if he ever decides to sell he will always have my number.
 
Ky Boy said:
Silly, how so?

I think you fail to see several points here...

1. Shane feels comfortable with the cue and has won lots of money and tourney's with it garnering sentimental attachment.
2. Sometimes, it's not about the money.
3. It's SHANE'S cue and he can do with it as he sees fit.
4. Sometimes, it's not about the money.
5. While he can get another cue for free, he doesn't want one.
6. Sometimes, it's not about the money.
7. Maybe for some, it's a combination of the indian and the arrow.
8. It's not always about the money
9. If he continues to use the cue the value may increase.
10. It's not always about the money.

:D

Gary
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Gary -

Im confused, are you saying its not always about the money?

The silly part is going from an A to AA (whatever that means).

Maybe the best 9-baller of all time played in the pool hall that I played in. He was great on telling stories and helping if you asked for advice.

But the thing I noticed about him he changed cues often (often whenever he was sponsored) and every time he changed cues, he said this is the greatest cue I have ever played with. Everyone in the pool hall smiled, because a few weeks ago, the last cue he had was one of the best cues he had ever played with. (this went on continuously as I lived there).

Maybe everyone here is saying Shane isn't as great a player as Efren and this other HOF player, because he couldn't win without this cuetech cue.

I kinda think Shane is the best player in the US, and he could still be even if he played with another cuetech cue...call me crazy I think he is that good. I know you folks don't think he is, but I do. :rolleyes:

Ken
 
How much do record baseballs sell for? Is your grandma had the same plate they had on the Titanic, is it worth the same now? A postage stamp holds the value of sending a letter, unless there is only one of them around now.

A $100 cue used to win a few championship titles along with countless of other matches can very well be worth $10,000. Especially if Shane wins a 3rd consecutive US Open with it.

A $10,000 cue from a fancy cue maker holds as much real value outside of just the material costs as Shane's cue which is 0 unless you count the history, uniqueness and collector "need" of the piece.
 
Ken_4fun said:
Gary -

Im confused, are you saying its not always about the money?

The silly part is going from an A to AA (whatever that means).

Maybe the best 9-baller of all time played in the pool hall that I played in. He was great on telling stories and helping if you asked for advice.

But the thing I noticed about him he changed cues often (often whenever he was sponsored) and every time he changed cues, he said this is the greatest cue I have ever played with. Everyone in the pool hall smiled, because a few weeks ago, the last cue he had was one of the best cues he had ever played with. (this went on continuously as I lived there).

Maybe everyone here is saying Shane isn't as great a player as Efren and this other HOF player, because he couldn't win without this cuetech cue.

I kinda think Shane is the best player in the US, and he could still be even if he played with another cuetech cue...call me crazy I think he is that good. I know you folks don't think he is, but I do. :rolleyes:

Ken
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Ken,

You freely admit that Shane could have any Cuetec he wanted for free. Yet, he chooses to use a Cuetec a friend gave him. I believe one could only think he really likes that cue!!

Regarding sponsorship, most all players say the best cue they ever played with will be the one who is sponsoring them at the time. However, in Shane's case, if he lost his sponsorship he may continue to play with that cue because he likes it so well!! Shane has a lot of class and talent and could probably play just as well with another cue but the point is moot cause he likes THAT cue so much.

And, it's not always about the money!:D HE could change cues and a period of time to acclimate himself to it the way he has this particular cue. Again, how many tourneys might he play during that acclimation period where he doesnt finish as high in the money. Effectively, he just gave money away in theory!


Gary
 
Was Shane's cue that beat up when it was given to him? I wasn't aware that he's been playing with one that was given to him,rather than a new cue provided to him by Cuetec.

I have no reason to think he couldn't get a new cue IF he wanted it from Cuetec. Earl used to get his shafts 2 dozen at a time.

It wasn't the legendary 15 dollar cue,but I hit balls with Efren's cue within 30 min of him winning the U.S. Open in '95. That cue hit ok,but really stiff even with a LONG taper and smallish diameter. It just felt weird and poorly maintained.

Buddy used to sell his players REGULARLY,including several Bludworths he won titles with for 10k because a stranger with a pocketful wanted it that bad. Tommy D.
 
Maybe Shane is thinking long term.He wins enough money that he's
not going hungry anytime soon,so why not keep that cue for another ten years,
win way more than 10grand with it and when all is said and done,he can sell the cue
for 100grand.Its a win win for Shane.
 
Interesting thread. I would like to add some points from my personal experience with pros.
While player's skills is most important, cue setup is essential even more at top level.
Most of the pros endorsed by a cue company and play with a regular model will at least make some modifications to the shaft or even use a shaft from another cue.
There are cases where a pro's game was affected seriously by equipment changes, not always for the better.
In SVB's case only he can clarify his statement, my guess is he doesn't have the time to go into an equipment change which he doesn't need to anyway.
 
Seems pretty clear to me he likes the cue and doesn't feel like 10k is worth getting used to another cue. Simple as that.

If you were winning as many tournaments as he is would you want to change ANYTHING? I sure as hell wouldn't.
 
Petros Andrikop said:
Interesting thread. I would like to add some points from my personal experience with pros.
While player's skills is most important, cue setup is essential even more at top level.
Most of the pros endorsed by a cue company and play with a regular model will at least make some modifications to the shaft or even use a shaft from another cue.
There are cases where a pro's game was affected seriously by equipment changes, not always for the better.
In SVB's case only he can clarify his statement, my guess is he doesn't have the time to go into an equipment change which he doesn't need to anyway.
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Who's to say he hasn't already tried more of them and something about them isn't right? Or maybe they are exactly the same but he thinks this cue will appreciate even more.

I have a mutual fund that doubled in value over the years but since I have plenty of other money I feel no need to sell it right now. Shane doesn't seem like the type to die broke in a gutter like so many other pool players who would sell their shoes to gamble another set.

JC
 
Its understandable why he wouldnt even consider selling his "prize race horse "....hes adjusted to the weight..the balance..the feel...his re-taper..the hit...why would you want to sell it and try to replicate it? you may not even succeed in getting it even close to exactly right...Hes smart. stick to one cue n shaft and learn it inside n out and never play with anything else unless u have to.

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