One Pocket - what do you do?

I am not a 1-pocket player, but what I would do is roll up on top of the 3.

Not that it goes anyway, but he would not be able to throw in the 2 from that angle...Actually I would hope he tried as he would sell out
 
Here's my shot for $5. The 2-5 might kiss, and that's fine with me. It's unlikely to go really bad for me.

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Here's my shot for $50.

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And here's my shot if I need them all, or something like it.

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Roy Steffensen said:
Here's a situation I was faced with.

What would you do in this situation, and why?

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Hit the 5 ball about 2/3 ball on the right side. Float the cue ball to the side cushion a diamond and a half below the side pocket -- directly in the line of the 12-8. The goal is to move the 2 and/or 3 to your pocket and not allow your opponent to see the 12 or any direct path to a ball in your pocket.

Leaving the cue ball up-table near the kitchen is the wrong shot because it leaves a possible take-out. If you move the cue ball to the kitchen, freeze it near the jaws of the corner so that the 7 blocks take-outs -- do not leave a straight path to your pocket. If you choose this last path, play a half-ball hit on the 5 with best draw and a speed that leaves the cue ball stuck in the far jaws. How close you should play to the pocket will depend on your ability.
 

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Hey Roy.

Maybe you remeamber me . In 2007 i was 1 of the 2 players from Romania that entered your 8ball Tournament in January. After the final was ended i end up playing 1p with Vincent Faquet for 3-4 hours!!!. It was my second time playing 1p and loved the game. I have played him again in Rotterdam at the WCOP and managed to win 2 games out of 15-16 we played EVEN :).

Back to topic. This is my choice, i think it's duable. If not you know how many balls to give me next time we meet and i chalange you to a 1p match.

Red line is the cue ball path from it's original possition. "A" is that location desired for ceu ball to end up at. Not very good with Cuetable.
 
I like longhair's first shot, but I may consider freezing the cue ball along the rail before the side pocket, especially if something like the 2 or 3 gets close to my pocket so they couldn't be taken away. Riskier would be to slightly draw off the five and try to freeze to the pack.
 
Bob Jewett said:
Hit the 5 ball about 2/3 ball on the right side. Float the cue ball to the side cushion a diamond and a half below the side pocket -- directly in the line of the 12-8. The goal is to move the 2 and/or 3 to your pocket and not allow your opponent to see the 12 or any direct path to a ball in your pocket.

Leaving the cue ball up-table near the kitchen is the wrong shot because it leaves a possible take-out. If you move the cue ball to the kitchen, freeze it near the jaws of the corner so that the 7 blocks take-outs -- do not leave a straight path to your pocket. If you choose this last path, play a half-ball hit on the 5 with best draw and a speed that leaves the cue ball stuck in the far jaws. How close you should play to the pocket will depend on your ability.

Bob is exactly right. There is no other shot as smart as his. You are automatically safe, can lag balls and could get lucky and run out,,,,,,,,,BELIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVE me.
 
Bob Jewett said:
Hit the 5 ball about 2/3 ball on the right side. Float the cue ball to the side cushion a diamond and a half below the side pocket -- directly in the line of the 12-8. The goal is to move the 2 and/or 3 to your pocket and not allow your opponent to see the 12 or any direct path to a ball in your pocket.

Leaving the cue ball up-table near the kitchen is the wrong shot because it leaves a possible take-out. If you move the cue ball to the kitchen, freeze it near the jaws of the corner so that the 7 blocks take-outs -- do not leave a straight path to your pocket. If you choose this last path, play a half-ball hit on the 5 with best draw and a speed that leaves the cue ball stuck in the far jaws. How close you should play to the pocket will depend on your ability.
Ding Ding! We have a winner.:)
 
A lot of posters are favoring the combination bank, striking the right side of the 5 ball.......But it looks to me, as the balls are laid out, that the angle of the 5-2 is such, that striking the right side of the 5 ball is going to throw the 2 ball into the points of the pocket - not a good thing......If you're in a serious game, with your 4 to 0 lead, you are supposed to play the score here and move balls up-table.......That said, I would bank the 3 ball straight ahead, sending it about 3/4ths of the way towards my side pocket, while leaving the cue ball on the rail - leaving him just about nothing, and partially killing his spirit.
 
I don't like the kiss on the combination bank so I'd purposely duck it by aiming for a very very slight cut on the 5 to my left...as small as possible. I'd jack up to about 15 or 20 degrees and shoot with enough force to make a ball if everything goes my way. I'd use enough spin and elevation to snuggle up tight to the balls.

No need to let him see more than two balls after this inning IMHO.

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cuetable said:
Something like this? The combo might go and open to a run out....
Exactly, except I'd rather make or hang a ball by some kind of weird bank combination kiss ticky rather than by the simple way.

One reason I don't like the simple draw to freeze the cue against the 13-14 is that it looks like the draw might force the 5 forward some and leave a tough cut that my opponent might shoot in out of desperation -- I hate to force my opponent to win. Freezing the cue ball on the long rail almost certainly avoids anything easier than the carom from the 4 to the 14. If the 5 were not a danger -- and I might have to see this on the table -- I'd like the tighter shot about as well as the aggressive shot. Move the 2 ball and almost freeze it to the foot-rail-side of the cue ball and move the five up-table an inch, and I'd take the "stun draw with a freeze." I would also hope not to make a ball in my pocket.
 
1 Pocket Ghost said:
A lot of posters are favoring the combination bank, striking the right side of the 5 ball.......But it looks to me, as the balls are laid out, that the angle of the 5-2 is such, that striking the right side of the 5 ball is going to throw the 2 ball into the points of the pocket - not a good thing......If you're in a serious game, with your 4 to 0 lead, you are supposed to play the score here and move balls up-table.......That said, I would bank the 3 ball straight ahead, sending it about 3/4ths of the way towards my side pocket, while leaving the cue ball on the rail - leaving him just about nothing, and partially killing his spirit.

I saw that, Ghost but from where it sits there is no way it will hit the point. It will not throw that much. If you think it will, hit the 5 ball on the left side, causing the 2 ball to throw the other way and it is an easy kiss to beat and you end up in the same spot, safe. In fact you stand a better chance of making the 2 or 3 ball. If not, they are lagged in the jaws.
 
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Roy Steffensen said:
Here's a situation I was faced with.

What would you do in this situation, and why?

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i nick the 13 freeze him on the backside 0f the 2 best shot from there and very ez to do hes dead from there
 
Bob Jewett said:
Exactly, except I'd rather make or hang a ball by some kind of weird bank combination kiss ticky rather than by the simple way.

One reason I don't like the simple draw to freeze the cue against the 13-14 is that it looks like the draw might force the 5 forward some and leave a tough cut that my opponent might shoot in out of desperation -- I hate to force my opponent to win. Freezing the cue ball on the long rail almost certainly avoids anything easier than the carom from the 4 to the 14. If the 5 were not a danger -- and I might have to see this on the table -- I'd like the tighter shot about as well as the aggressive shot. Move the 2 ball and almost freeze it to the foot-rail-side of the cue ball and move the five up-table an inch, and I'd take the "stun draw with a freeze." I would also hope not to make a ball in my pocket.

EXACTLY, Bob. Draw puts follow on the 5 ball and you might sell out a shot on the 5 ball.
 
Neil said:
I don't play much one-pocket, but what's the problem with skimming the 13 with left, going to the rail , and freezing the CB to the 2?
i see you beat me to it i do the same for my money he almost has to take a scratch from there either 2 railing it behind the 12 or just tapping cue ball a player of roys abililty that shot should be pretty ez
 
hemicudas said:
I saw that, Ghost but from where it sits there is no way it will hit the point. It will not throw that much. If you think it will, hit the 5 ball on the left side, causing the 2 ball to throw the other way and it is an easy kiss to beat and you end up in the same spot, safe. In fact you stand a better chance of making the 2 or 3 ball. If not, they are lagged in the jaws.


Bill, I'm surprised that an old school guy like you, with a 4 to 0 lead, is advising fiddling around with those balls, when one mistake/mis-hit could let your opponent start running all of those dangerous balls........You better believe the Beard would start herding those balls up-table like I advised.
 
1 Pocket Ghost said:
Bill, I'm surprised that an old school guy like you, with a 4 to 0 lead, is advising fiddling around with those balls, when one mistake/mis-hit could let your opponent start running all of those dangerous balls........You better believe the Beard would start herding those balls up-table like I advised.

Interestingly enough, I talked to Fred today. Actually called you but you weren't in. I'm sure he would punch all the balls up table with a 4-0 lead but I know the guy we are playing better than the Beard does, LOL. Gotta figure we are betting a yard and knowing the guy is good for one game only I am going to make it short and get out the door and maybe stall down the road.

My hero, Ronnie Allen, would shoot the shot, Bob Jewett and I chose no matter what the score.
 
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