Opinions or insights on Dale Perry cues?
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Why do you think you bought it for next to nothing? Its because his resale value is as bad as a used Cuetec.
Now how can it be the exact same cue and he call it "1/1" if they all have a different shaft taper and weight combo?? That truly makes them 1 of 1. He calls this one of one, as it will never be repeated...VonRhett said:The BAD NEWS is that Dale made 100 more just like it, all 1/1!
1pRoscoe said:Now how can it be the exact same cue and he call it "1/1" if they all have a different shaft taper and weight combo?? That truly makes them 1 of 1. He calls this one of one, as it will never be repeated...
I think it's the grain in the wood that makes it unique!
VonRhett said:Well, the GOOD NEWS is that you are the Proud Owner of a "DP 1 of 1" cue!
The BAD NEWS is that Dale made 100 more just like it, all 1/1!
LOL Couldnt agree more, I think he consider's them 1/1 cause he reverse's the inlay patterns lol, he's done nothing but really screwed his cues and reputation up. His cues will never be worth what people pay for them because he screwed his self and took them to ebay.
Thanks, Mark
About 4 years ago, I bought a DP cue with a gorgeous golden colored burlwood forearm, ebony points, a burl butt sleeve, and white inlays. Dale used to make these cored stabilized burl cues that were just beautiful. I later ordered an extra overlength shaft and had it in a week or so.
I bought the cue on E-Bay for about $700 and I sold it about six months later for about $600. The cue sold itself because of the sensational looks.
The cue played and looked great. I just decided to experiment with a few longer cues and picked up a 60" Scuggs and sold the DP. I sold the DP because I did not think the cue would appreciate or even hold it's value. I saw them sell for progressively less on E-Bay.
When Dale first started selling on E-Bay, it was always a no reserve auction. The prices went kind of high because people were fighting over his cues. The prices declined as he kept putting 3 cues a week on E-Bay. Then he got to the point where he was not getting enough money, so he sold some cues with a reserve. Then he started including only 1 shaft on the cheaper cues.
When you cater to the low-end, eventually your products suffer. As materials and labor escalate, but prices don't, something has got to give. What I think "gave" was the quality control and customer service.
Flash forward to earlier this year and my friend had a bad experience buying a new DP from him off of E-Bay. The cue wasn't right, and it took a lot to get it right.
I believe that DP cues are a good value for the player in an entry level custom and something collectors will not pick up. I also think he's trapped himself with the 1 of 1 B.S. - too many "one-of-a-kind, thank god" type of designs coming forward.
I would like to see Dale take a little time off of E-Bay and regroup. I would like to see him update his designs and get himself to the quality level he should be. His cues are no longer in the league of the other custom makers he is competing against.
Chris
I bought the cue on E-Bay for about $700 and I sold it about six months later for about $600. The cue sold itself because of the sensational looks.
The cue played and looked great. I just decided to experiment with a few longer cues and picked up a 60" Scuggs and sold the DP. I sold the DP because I did not think the cue would appreciate or even hold it's value. I saw them sell for progressively less on E-Bay.
When Dale first started selling on E-Bay, it was always a no reserve auction. The prices went kind of high because people were fighting over his cues. The prices declined as he kept putting 3 cues a week on E-Bay. Then he got to the point where he was not getting enough money, so he sold some cues with a reserve. Then he started including only 1 shaft on the cheaper cues.
When you cater to the low-end, eventually your products suffer. As materials and labor escalate, but prices don't, something has got to give. What I think "gave" was the quality control and customer service.
Flash forward to earlier this year and my friend had a bad experience buying a new DP from him off of E-Bay. The cue wasn't right, and it took a lot to get it right.
I believe that DP cues are a good value for the player in an entry level custom and something collectors will not pick up. I also think he's trapped himself with the 1 of 1 B.S. - too many "one-of-a-kind, thank god" type of designs coming forward.
I would like to see Dale take a little time off of E-Bay and regroup. I would like to see him update his designs and get himself to the quality level he should be. His cues are no longer in the league of the other custom makers he is competing against.
Chris
ex-dealer..
..a few years back, I wanted to become a Dale Perry dealer, so while I was in Las Vegas for Nationals, I sat down and talked with him about it. I decided to become a dealer and we drew up 6 cue designs for the required initial investment required to deal his cues.
I received the cues over the next several months and was quite excited about them. I sold one very nice 1 of 1 cue to a young customer in the pool room. It was a $1500 cue, and I cut him a deal and sold it to him for $1200. About a month later, he came to me and said he saw the identical cue for sale by Dale Perry on Ebay, and that it went for $450, so he wanted to know what the deal was. I had no answer.
If I had placed the order for the cue from Dale as a dealer, my cost would have been much more than the $450 that he sold the cue directly to the Ebay customer for. That is when I decided being a DP dealer was not for me. This same scenario played out with several other dealers that I have spoken to.
..a few years back, I wanted to become a Dale Perry dealer, so while I was in Las Vegas for Nationals, I sat down and talked with him about it. I decided to become a dealer and we drew up 6 cue designs for the required initial investment required to deal his cues.
I received the cues over the next several months and was quite excited about them. I sold one very nice 1 of 1 cue to a young customer in the pool room. It was a $1500 cue, and I cut him a deal and sold it to him for $1200. About a month later, he came to me and said he saw the identical cue for sale by Dale Perry on Ebay, and that it went for $450, so he wanted to know what the deal was. I had no answer.
If I had placed the order for the cue from Dale as a dealer, my cost would have been much more than the $450 that he sold the cue directly to the Ebay customer for. That is when I decided being a DP dealer was not for me. This same scenario played out with several other dealers that I have spoken to.
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Ironically enough, the resale on DP cues is probably as good or better than it's ever been, That's because of the unbelievably cheap selling prices you see them letting cues go for on eBay.
We sold some of Dale's cues several years ago (pre-eBay flood) and did OK with them. The quality of everything was good, he stood behind his work, and is a great guy to talk to. Just not sure I agree with the path that's been chosen, but hey. I do hate to hear that some buyers are having problems with the cues, but when you literally pay next to nothing for something, you shouldn't have such high expectations IMO. I know I wouldn't.
We sold some of Dale's cues several years ago (pre-eBay flood) and did OK with them. The quality of everything was good, he stood behind his work, and is a great guy to talk to. Just not sure I agree with the path that's been chosen, but hey. I do hate to hear that some buyers are having problems with the cues, but when you literally pay next to nothing for something, you shouldn't have such high expectations IMO. I know I wouldn't.
For looks, beauty, and 2 shafts, Dale Perry makes the best $300 cue on the market and you even get his certificate of authenticity. I should know, I have 2 of these $300 cues. Paid $500 for one and $700 for the other. Then I raided my kids college accounts and started collecting real cues.