Congrats to Justin, but can someone tell me why he is a better player than Oscar? the results don't show it. If he wasn't picked because of his relationship with Mr. Wilson, then how did he get in? It certainly isn't because he played better in the Mosconi points events. If you don't get enough points, you shouldn't be on the team. Try harder next year. Oscar deserves to be there.
Oscar Left Out of Mosconi Cup... Again
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Two years ago, wasn't Oscar the player who bailed on the USA MC team at the last moment?
If I recall, there was an agreement amongst the final seven players in the running to make the team, that they would all fly over there, with the two non-playing guys supporting the team in whatever capacity was needed. Oscar agreed to that and -- when he wasn't selected as a playing team member -- copped out at the last second.
I'm not saying that's the reason he wasn't selected this year however actions do have consequences...
Lou Figueroa
If I recall, there was an agreement amongst the final seven players in the running to make the team, that they would all fly over there, with the two non-playing guys supporting the team in whatever capacity was needed. Oscar agreed to that and -- when he wasn't selected as a playing team member -- copped out at the last second.
I'm not saying that's the reason he wasn't selected this year however actions do have consequences...
Lou Figueroa
I would say it is because Mark has a higher opinion of Justin's game. Oscar and Justin are so close in ability that it is understandable when determining who's game is better to pick the one you know best due to emotions being a big part of opinion.
They are so close that an opinion one way or the other is valid but when it is said that Mark picked Justin "because of their relationship" it makes it sound like Mark believes Oscar is better but picked Justin anyway because he likes him. That is not the case.
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i know, u would give a leg for JA in the team :wink: but isnt that thinking one of the reasons why US pool is where it is? nostalgia dont win matches, only hard work (not only from the players)...... its time to think out of ure closet or i see very hard times coming for u guys (times are already hard, only shane covers alot)!
I'm keeping my leg.
:rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao
Yes and in the ABR interview right after that he really burnt some bridges.
4th and 5th are captains picks not based on ranking points so if you do not make 1st to 3rd you are out and it is up to Captain to pick and to use a political term in this silly political season, whoever the Captain picks serves at his pleasure and the Captain can pick literally anyone even Hunter Lombardo or Jennifer Baretta
Why is JB better than OD?
1) More tourney finishes
http://www.azbilliards.com/people/4200-justin-bergman/
http://www.azbilliards.com/people/3231-oscar-dominguez/
2) Better finish in majors
JB
$2,500 17th US Open 9-Ball 2016
$3,000 9th US Open 9-Ball 2015
OD
$1,000 33rd World 9B C'ship 2016
3) Fargorate
JB 796 OD 767
4) From my own observation, JB has what it takes to takedown the top Euros
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JB played 2 MC
Doubles 2 wins/4 matches 50%
Singles 1 win /5 matches 20%
Total 3 win /9 matches 33%
OD play 1 MC
Doubles 1 wins/2 matches 50%
Singles 0 win /2 matches 0%
Total 1 win /4 matches 25%
OD has 2 doubles wins in 2009
You should get on Facebook and read what the players that aren't picked post in the years past. Doesn't stop them from getting considered or on the team. And all the players that had the MC team carrot dangled in front of them and then were asked to be team coaches or whatever chose not too. Not just oscar. And it wasn't like Mark thought it important enough that he chose a replacement for Oscar and others once they chose not to participate. That would have shown me something.
You are right
JB played 2 MC
Doubles 2 wins/4 matches 50%
Singles 1 win /5 matches 20%
Total 3 win /9 matches 33%
OD play 1 MC
Doubles 2 wins/3 matches 67%
Singles 0 win /2 matches 0%
Total 1 win /4 matches 40%
For those of you that obviously do not keep up with professional pool on a regular basis, Justin and Oscar gambled last year playing a race to 100. Justin steam rolled Oscar. If all sports teams were made of up the "nicest" guys, than the Chicago Bulls of the 90's, the New England Patriots, etc would never have won championships.
I feel like the 5 guys that were chosen are the 5 best players in the US right now. And for all of the Mike Dechaine haters out there, fact check, he is the 2nd best rotation player in the country. Johnny Archer even backed out on playing Mike at the Derby this year because he knew he would not win.
I feel like the 5 guys that were chosen are the 5 best players in the US right now. And for all of the Mike Dechaine haters out there, fact check, he is the 2nd best rotation player in the country. Johnny Archer even backed out on playing Mike at the Derby this year because he knew he would not win.
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Let me just say that after Paul Harvey and a few others speak then you will know the rest of the story. But it will be after the Mosconi Cup. Food for thought if Oscar would have passed Rodney in Kuwait tournament Rodney would be watching on TV and Oscar would be on the team . Again why would Justin not go to Kuwait to
Better his position and make the team ?? Perhaps Because he already knew and had been told he was on the team.
Big fan of Oscar here, and his selection would have been within reason, but I'd have taken Justin Bergman over him.
In order, SVB, Dechaine, and Skyler finished top three for automatic qualification. That left two wild card picks and I felt that it came down to Oscar Dominguez, Justin Bergman, Rodney Morris, and Josh Roberts (who recently beat both SVB and Dennis Orcullo at the Texas Tornado Open and also played well at the US Open).
Rodney finished fourth in the points, so it's tough to argue with his selection, but the last pick was surely a tricky one for Coach Wilson. If Mark wanted to go with the hot hand of late, he might have selected Josh Roberts, but both Bergman and Oscar had a better year, so it likely came down to those two for the spot.
With Coach Wilson present, each had a chance to show their stuff at the US Open and Oscar Dominguez went two and out while Justin Bergman dazzled, winning his first three matches, and then taking both David Alcaide (Euro Tour #3 and US Open 5th place) and Dennis Orcullo (US Open 4th place and a living legend) to 9-9 before falling 11-9. Mosconi is about one's ability to compete with the most elite and Justin showed, in the biggest event on the American pool calendar, that he has what it takes.
Mark Wilson got it right as I see it.
In order, SVB, Dechaine, and Skyler finished top three for automatic qualification. That left two wild card picks and I felt that it came down to Oscar Dominguez, Justin Bergman, Rodney Morris, and Josh Roberts (who recently beat both SVB and Dennis Orcullo at the Texas Tornado Open and also played well at the US Open).
Rodney finished fourth in the points, so it's tough to argue with his selection, but the last pick was surely a tricky one for Coach Wilson. If Mark wanted to go with the hot hand of late, he might have selected Josh Roberts, but both Bergman and Oscar had a better year, so it likely came down to those two for the spot.
With Coach Wilson present, each had a chance to show their stuff at the US Open and Oscar Dominguez went two and out while Justin Bergman dazzled, winning his first three matches, and then taking both David Alcaide (Euro Tour #3 and US Open 5th place) and Dennis Orcullo (US Open 4th place and a living legend) to 9-9 before falling 11-9. Mosconi is about one's ability to compete with the most elite and Justin showed, in the biggest event on the American pool calendar, that he has what it takes.
Mark Wilson got it right as I see it.
IIRC ... I believe there was an understanding between the final eight players in the running. It turned out that Oscar, Brandon, and Jeremy S. were the three selected to be non-playing team members who decided not to go to Blackpool.
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