Yeah, cool story. Which one?
The best way to guarantee an outcome is to keep missing.
You can miss the 9-ball and slop it to another pocket.
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Yeah, cool story. Which one?
The best way to guarantee an outcome is to keep missing.
You can miss the 9-ball and slop it to another pocket.
yup, combo of toi and you know who chicken wing sp of yesteryear
Whats so hard about that shot that you think he would miss it 3 times out of a hundred? See how that works?
Jason
Can't find clip but it was against Tony Crosby..
If I had to guess, Alex would bet a fair amount of coin, that he wouldn't miss the shot one time out of a hundred.
100 for 100? Id take the other side of that!
I'd say the over/under is 98 or 99. Those who mentioned the hesitation and use of the shot clock on the eight are right on. Alex did have time to set up properly for the nine but rushed it anyway. He had time to get up and collect himself but still forced the shot.
I've seen every great player miss equally easy shots but I can't recall it happening on the match winning nine ball. Nine ball misses yes, but not the one that wins the match! Dennis missed an easy Ten Ball against Jayson in the Bigfoot that probably cost him the match. I think it was to put him on the hill with a nice lead. The really weird thing about Varner's miss on the nine ball to win the U.S. Open was what happened next. Nick had a slightly off angle nine in the side, with the cue ball well off the rail and the nine maybe a diamond and half from the side. A C player would make this shot at least 80% of the time! After the miss the nine ball ended up frozen to the cue ball near the foot spot. Sigel was so frustrated by this bad leave they he just about threw his cue at the ball and sent them flying! It was just about the craziest thing I ever saw Sigel do. He could have played a safe off the edge of the nine and sent the cue ball down table, leaving Nick a long shot, whether it be a cut or a bank. Definitely not a hanger by any means. Sigel totally lost it mentally at that moment.
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If you're referring to the preliminary rounds of the 2006 WPC in the Philippines, I remember that match. Efren missed a fairly easy 9-ball to win the match, and Tony ended up winning (after Tony missed a fairly easy 9 on his own). Despite the loss, Efren still managed to make it out of the preliminary rounds and into the single elimination round.
But from what I recall, that tournament was the very first WPC tournament on Philippine soil, and Efren looked extremely nervous performing in front of the home crowd. The most reasonable explanation for his miss is simply nerves instead of anything nefarious.
Do you have any evidence that Efren missed the 9 on purpose? Or do you enjoy slinging slander on this forum that has no basis in reality?
The CB is close to the rail, and at least for me, shooting at that angle off the rail when the CB is close seems to mess with my visual perception of the shot. Also, as far as cross table shots, its as long as it can possiblly get, with the CB close to the rail, and the OB in the middle of the table.
I just set up the shot as carefully as I could with doughnuts and a ruler on my table. I'm going to try it 100 times! ha ah, I've never shot a shot 100 times in a row. I'll report back the results for fun.
I'm warmed up, and hitting them pretty good.
Edit: The other reason I think this shot can be trouble is its just a hair off of straight in. I find these types of shots get hit often full in the face and go straight instead of the very tiny cut required.
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I shot the shot 100 times.
I made it legally in the intended pocket 80 times.
I missed it in the intended pocket 19 times.
I made it, but scratched in the side 1 time.
I made it once banking it 2 rails in the side (counted it as a miss).
So I'm exactly 80% on this shot for the intended pocket and a legal stroke.
Every single time I missed, except once, I missed it hitting it perfectly straight and not cutting it at all. The balls that were pocketed, almost every one went in on the thick hit side of the pocket, even though I was aiming a little bit more to the thinner side of the pocket.
I put my level at a low B. I've beaten the 9 ball ghost 3 times in my life on our AZ Ghost challenge, with my best score at 7-3.
I made it legally in the intended pocket 80 times.
I missed it in the intended pocket 19 times.
I made it, but scratched in the side 1 time.
I made it once banking it 2 rails in the side (counted it as a miss).
So I'm exactly 80% on this shot for the intended pocket and a legal stroke.
Every single time I missed, except once, I missed it hitting it perfectly straight and not cutting it at all. The balls that were pocketed, almost every one went in on the thick hit side of the pocket, even though I was aiming a little bit more to the thinner side of the pocket.
I put my level at a low B. I've beaten the 9 ball ghost 3 times in my life on our AZ Ghost challenge, with my best score at 7-3.
You may consider yourself a B-player, but on AZ you're an A-one asset....
...thanx for doing what you do....:bow-down:
When you are shooting the same shot over and over and it seems easy, eventually you will get careless.
i saw a guy make money challenging people even money to pocket a ball in one of the far pockets from behind the line 30 times in a row with ball in hand.
No he wasnt challenging anyone like Alex but quite a few A/B players lost to him.
i saw a guy make money challenging people even money to pocket a ball in one of the far pockets from behind the line 30 times in a row with ball in hand.
No he wasnt challenging anyone like Alex but quite a few A/B players lost to him.
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Its funny, this mental attitude was new to me, having never shot a shot 100 times in a row. I made the first 5, then missed the 6th, then made about 15 in a row. At that point, I thought I'd make all of them going to 100. ha ha.
Another thing that surprised me, when I missed, I'd often follow it up with another miss. Once I even had 3 misses in a row. And the misses were always the same way.
Antoher pressure, was after those first 20 some shots with only 1 miss, I was thinking in my head I made the shot harder than it seemed on my AZ post earlier, and was thinking about how I'd report back that it was way easier than I thought, and Alex would probably make it 99 times.
Anyway, its fun experiencing new pressures. That's what this game is about. Geno used to talk about that a lot. One example he used to use is that you can't practice being in the final of a tournament, until you are actually in the final. Its a new experience and with that brings a new pressure.
I wonder if something about this situation was a new experience to Alex, or one he had been in only a tiny amount of times.
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Every human has missed a shot they should make many times in their lives. Alex just flinched. It happens. As Shane said if the correct position had been played the shot would have been much easier.
Think about this....Alex has made the match winning shot probably better than 90% of the time in the matches he has played where he got to the shot to win the match. So overall that's a pretty good percentage.
If he is 99% to make this shot well, you got the rare glimpse of the 1% where you get to see that even a top professional is still human.
And....most importantly, a pretty damn big reminder to let every opponent shoot every shot no matter how easy it seems. We are in the habit of gifting the last shot to people when here is a perfect example of why we should not.
Think about this....Alex has made the match winning shot probably better than 90% of the time in the matches he has played where he got to the shot to win the match. So overall that's a pretty good percentage.
If he is 99% to make this shot well, you got the rare glimpse of the 1% where you get to see that even a top professional is still human.
And....most importantly, a pretty damn big reminder to let every opponent shoot every shot no matter how easy it seems. We are in the habit of gifting the last shot to people when here is a perfect example of why we should not.
From where the 8-ball was, the position he had on the 9 was pretty darn good.
I don't know why he did not bridge on the rail alone. He did not have to bridge on his left hand imo. He was a good 3 inches away from the rail.
But, everyone misses.
I met a senior in Laguna Hills some two decades ago. He missed winning the US Open ( golf ) by one shot. He said he missed a gimme putt. He couldn't explain how he missed it.
I don't know why he did not bridge on the rail alone. He did not have to bridge on his left hand imo. He was a good 3 inches away from the rail.
But, everyone misses.
I met a senior in Laguna Hills some two decades ago. He missed winning the US Open ( golf ) by one shot. He said he missed a gimme putt. He couldn't explain how he missed it.
art of the dump:
dog "shape" not the "shot"
Alex stoned the 8 and got real good on the cheese, he didn't dump
I think shooting a shot 100 times in a row is a bit different than the percentage top players will make this in actual play. I have seen the best players shoot this shot on the money ball well over 100 times. You just don't see the guys miss this ball, even on tight pockets. It is essentially a 100% make for them, but I think he flinched or whatever you'd call it and dogged it. So does that mean it's not 100%? I guess so maybe 99.9% or something.