Philippine Open
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That was one ugggglllllyyyy match.
dennis lost 10-2. pity because i was rooting for him. but asis is steady af. there was some controversy, i think he claimed marvin fouled, ref ruled in marvins favor. some words traded after the ref decision too, between the players.
Of course you are right. A player with a loss sometimes wins at the expense of one or more undefeated players that they defeated. On the other hand, there is nothing unfair about double elimination if the format is announced in advance. Players go in understanding that holding the hot seat isn't nearly as important as it would be in true double elimination format.
This is a case where the needs of the fans outweigh the needs of the players. Fans don't want to have a final that might last 45 minutes and might last hours and hours. Almost every pool event producer understands this, and with the exception of smaller, unstreamed events, true double elimination is very rare.
I recall the Derby City Classic one pocket final in 2009 between Scott Frost and John Schmidt. It began at about 6:00 PM and only Frost carried a loss. Still, Scott was the one pocket specialist, and the side-betters were offering just even money on the match despite the fact that Scott would have to win two sets in a row. Ready for a very long night and a match that would likely last four to six hours, I cancelled my dinner reservation. It took Schmidt just 45 minutes to win the first set, so I would have made that reservation.
Something similar happened in the 2019 Derby City 9ball final between Woodward and Aranas, a match that began in the wee hours of the morning. The undefeated Woodward lost the first set, which had dragged on. In the second set, I think I may have set the world record for most yawns by a fan in one match, but Woodward eventually won it in a match that lacked the kind of entertainment value expected of a final.
The Derby was one of the last events I can remember that used true double elimination format, but they scrapped it last year in favor of the far more fan-friendly "Championship Sunday" which meant that just one set would be played in each discipline in the title match. Speaking as a fan, the result was a much-improved Derby City Classic. Similarly, Turning Stone scrapped true double elimination several years ago.
I believe the two-stage format usually seen in WNT, WPA and Euro-tour events is best.
True double elimination is near obsolete in our sport and, in my opinion, this has been a very positive development that has made pool more entertaining.
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Yapp is also skipping Qatar. It's been a long grind for him this year.
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There were 85 Filipinos listed among the 128 players at the start of this event. A handful were no-shows.
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This was a big event for Billy. Yes, Sky being captain again means Billy is probably on the Mosconi. But he had a chance to earn enough points to overtake Lukas (fifth in points at 20,700), Sky (fourth at 21,900) and even Tyler (third at 23,350.)
Lukas got to the final 64 due to a no-show. His next opponent beat Roberto Gomez in a close one, so not to be taken for granted. If he gets to the final 32, Jefrey Roda is likely to await.
Lukas could pass Sky for fourth by getting to the final 16, and he could pass Tyler for third if he gets to the quarters.
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A big wild card is whether SVB is eligible for the Mosconi. Maybe MR will relent and give SVB and Filler a pass, but if not, I'd expect the US team to be Sky, Ty, Billy, Oscar and Lukas.
I actually wouldn't mind see that group. See how the absence of SVB affects the dynamic.
Fedor vs AJ Manas live exhibition now:
Tournaments are not about being fair. They are about growing the game, making a tournament fun to watch, and getting done on time. True double elimination takes forever. There is no climax. "Is this the final?", "I'm not sure", "NOW it's REALLY the final".
sudocrushms
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18 no-show in the first round SO FAR (excluding The Lion). Jeez.
Every Philippine household has their own version of how it is made and it is passed along from generation to generation.
Here is one that sounds very similar to most that I have ate. Most of the ones I have ate have had a tad of vinegar in the recipe. This one adds a bit of oyster sauce. Some even add a bit of sugar.
https://www.thekitchn.com/filipino-chicken-adobo-recipe-23652486
Most of them must have seen the draw and decided to save the travel expenses because they were up against strong players. This is single elimination so not a really big deal, I would think.
This would have been really nice. Maybe have them bring their cues and replace any no shows for the first round matches that are scheduled for tomorrow
It is so easy:
• Marinate the chicken in soy sauce and crushed-up garlic.
• Separate the chicken from the marinade. (Save marinade as it will be used later.)
• Pan-fry the chicken 1 to 1.5 minutes per side.
• Now add marinade and a little water to the pan.
• Add peppercorns (optional).
• Simmer on low heat for 20 to 25 minutes.
We like boneless/skinless chicken thighs, but you can use any parts of the chicken.
My mouth is watering already, and it's only 10:37 in the morning.
apparently a 40+ year old pool room owner, hardly a pro player. not finding any history that he has been, either. he wore a world pool masters shirt though
probably a smart move. he's been playing like a maniac for over a year. wonder if he'll play the international
It is so easy:
• Marinate the chicken in soy sauce and crushed-up garlic.
• Separate the chicken from the marinade. (Save marinade as it will be used later.)
• Pan-fry the chicken 1 to 1.5 minutes per side.
• Now add marinade and a little water to the pan.
• Add peppercorns (optional).
• Simmer on low heat for 20 to 25 minutes.
We like boneless/skinless chicken thighs, but you can use any parts of the chicken.
JAM, try using chicken wings for your adobo, the best. You could also use pork, cut it in cubes, mix it with your chicken wing adobo, chef’s kiss!
My mouth is watering already, and it's only 10:37 in the morning.
Bizarre. First time a major is SE format inconsistent with other WNT majors that are DE+SE.
"Goalpost designer" MR again making it up as they go.
They are minoring the "major" cos almost every big event organized by them is a major while other strong events like International is ranking event. More majors in WNT Tour than Lee's family.
"Goalpost designer" MR again making it up as they go.
They are minoring the "major" cos almost every big event organized by them is a major while other strong events like International is ranking event. More majors in WNT Tour than Lee's family.