Travis said:
He IS the "great white hope" in this country, getting better all the time. How good he will be remains to be seen. Still the 8 Ball under the top players.
Phillipino dominance?
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He IS the "great white hope" in this country, getting better all the time. How good he will be remains to be seen. Still the 8 Ball under the top players.
Travis said:
He would come back the best American player!
jay helfert said:
No doubt about it, just look at johnny and corey. those are solid proof. but I'm just wondering. aren't the asians suppose to be the ones training in the U.S. since pool originated here and we just taught them how to play the game some decades ago? instead we are the ones going to their turf to train us. it's not embarassing in a way that we learn something unique and enhance our game , but embarassing in a way that we know that americans invented the sport.
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Referring to what I had posted previously. Would some of the pros and some of us also consider training in taiwan? As mentioned in other posts, Phil and Taiwan each have different styles yet both are said to be effective. so where do you prefer and why? 
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Hail Mary Shot said:Referring to what I had posted previously. Would some of the pros and some of us also consider training in taiwan? As mentioned in other posts, Phil and Taiwan each have different styles yet both are said to be effective. so where do you prefer and why?
The logistical challenges I mentioned for Taiwanese players in the States will apply for any foreigner visiting Taiwan as well. English is not commonly spoken, so if you're not Mandarin or Taiwanese speaking it can really be difficult to set up shop. Besides, the strong suite of Taiwanese pros lies in their full-time tour, with full media coverage...as a foreigner, you cannot participate.
The Philippines is a more natural choice for any english-speaking player. To hone your gambling/grinding skills, there is no better place.
-Roger
rotation said:Obviously, these people have never gone to the Philippines. In every pool hall in the Philippines (which is about every corner of the street) you can pick a guy who can beat a 2nd tier american pro......
You make me have a thinking that Philippinoooo like to talk big. Please......
Sprite said:You make me have a thinking that Philippinoooo like to talk big. Please......
Sprite, as much as I don't like rotation's bragging, there is truth to what he says. local pool hustlers are very capable of that. I don't know if some of us learned something from the past. we underestimated these filipino players before and left us eating chalkdusts. now we are doing this same mistake of underestimating these guys again ( maybe not the same guys but certainly capable just the same). Maybe some of us are just denying the fact or maybe we just have to much pride in ourselves. The Americans have the potential alright, but not in the same level as that of the Filipinos. otherwise, they wont offer you a handicap in a game right? Regarding if there is a truth about those local pool hustlers, you can ask Johnny for the answer!
Rotation, Easy on the ketchup bro !
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Tang Hoa is a US Open finalist. They had a fiesta there when he was there.Hail Mary Shot said:Sprite, as much as I don't like rotation's bragging, there is truth to what he says. local pool hustlers are very capable of that. I don't know if some of us learned something from the past. we underestimated these filipino players before and left us eating chalkdusts. now we are doing this same mistake of underestimating these guys again ( maybe not the same guys but certainly capable just the same). Maybe some of us are just denying the fact or maybe we just have to much pride in ourselves. The Americans have the potential alright, but not in the same level as that of the Filipinos. otherwise, they wont offer you a handicap in a game right? Regarding if there is a truth about those local pool hustlers, you can ask Johnny for the answer!
Rotation, Easy on the ketchup bro !
I wonder how they're going to proceed with the Pool Academy in Philippines.
It's a really nice idea. There are even more Filipinos who will pick up a cue if there is a safer place for them to play pool. Most of the pool halls in the Philippines are gangs and "sore" hustlers hang-outs, too bad.
It's a really nice idea. There are even more Filipinos who will pick up a cue if there is a safer place for them to play pool. Most of the pool halls in the Philippines are gangs and "sore" hustlers hang-outs, too bad.
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JoeyInCali said:Tang Hoa is a US Open finalist. They had a fiesta there when he was there.
At his peak in the late 90's, Tang played just under the top players in the world, filipinos included. He was (and did) beat everyone on occasion and was a feared money player as well (ask Santos).
Nowadays, Tang is at best a part time player. His game is at least a full speed below his peak. He is barely second tier status in the Philipines, and knows it. I might add that in the ensuing years, he has probably made more money than all but a couple of pool players. And not from pool either.
When I was there, the talent I saw at One Side was awesome. Four or five of the best players in the world locking horns. Another ten or twelve who played as good or better than ANY American player. And maybe ten more a hair under them. Care to match up? Many did and died.
This was one spot I had no interest in taking my cue out of the bag and even approaching a table. I was quite content to be an observer. I saw Alex run eight racks of Ten Ball on a tight table, and lose to Dennis! Scary is all I have to say. Of course Dennis gave the same treatment to Chris Bartrum at Derby City a couple of weeks ago. He gave weight to one of the top American money players and shot him into a coma. Twice!
This was one spot I had no interest in taking my cue out of the bag and even approaching a table. I was quite content to be an observer. I saw Alex run eight racks of Ten Ball on a tight table, and lose to Dennis! Scary is all I have to say. Of course Dennis gave the same treatment to Chris Bartrum at Derby City a couple of weeks ago. He gave weight to one of the top American money players and shot him into a coma. Twice!
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regarding the taiwanese players, I admire their skills. they almost come close to that of the filipinos. again, "ALMOST". why I said this, because I can still see a certain weakness in their game. and that is the kick shot and counter-safety. of course with the help of their ever reliable, pin-point accurate jump shot, that won't be much of problem except when the opposing player hid the cue-ball too closely behind an object ball where the possibility of a jump shot is eliminated and a foul is imminent. Take away their jump shot and they are in for a long night. . You can see in their matches how often they use the jump. they'd rather jump than kick. why? it's because jumping is much much easier. I, myself prefer to do the same thing rather than kicking because all you have to do is to target the object ball straight in without the trouble of going around the table and high risking a foul. I did not say that the taiwanese aren't good at kicking. They are good but not great. they often leave their opponents an open table after a kick. You see, this is where all the books goes out of the window and where imagination comes in. You cannot teach imagination. the patterns are created by the players themselves on how they can escape in a tight situation without the use of a jump. without the jump, I'll be a sitting duck myself. lucky for most of us!
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Thnx Jay.jay helfert said:
How do you think John Schmidt or Jeremy Jones would do at One Side?