Pool -- a very male dominated sport (in the wake of Cubc and OMGWTF's matchup)

[GG11]

Learning to make a bridge???

WOW! The forum goes haywire and it becomes a sexual fiesta up in here!!

You have nothing to fear, GG... I can't imagine a day when you walk into a pool hall and every guy doesn't stop, turn around, and immediately start trying to figure out how to come talk to you!

 

[lodini]

Learning to make a bridge???

Oh wait, wasn't I supposed to charge for those kinds of services?

 

[corvette1340]

Oh wait, wasn't I supposed to charge for those kinds of services?

yes, I just paypal'd you $75.

 

[soulcatcher]

WOW! The forum goes haywire and it becomes a sexual fiesta up in here!!

Sorry, just could not resist that one. It was WAY to open.

 

[TXsouthpaw]

Money can't buy every women, but it bought enough of them for me. I'm not talking hookers here. Money can't buy you love.....BS. Johnnyt

Money cant buy me love, but it can rent it for a while.

 

[Flex]

No offense, but to me those "love it or leave it" statements are just too infantile to even dignify with a response. Xenophobia, anyone...?



No, I do not. I would think only xenophobic, racist, and misogynic people would think my comments were offensive. I'm sorry if I offended you.

On that note I may add that treating people equally -- no matter what race, gender or nationality -- might be a foreign concept to a few of you. However, I happen to come from a place that has been in the vanguard of woman's rights, whether it's giving them the right to vote, salary equities, or running the country with an administration comprised of often more women than men (in fact, in three decades, the administration has never dipped below the 40% women mark). In addition, back home women now make (slightly) more than men, while here in the US the women make 24 cents less per dollar than men. So why shouldn't women in the US get payed the same amount as men for the same job... because they got tits and vaginas..? It's so fukking disingenuous. And how about racism -- just look at the out-of-whack incarceration proportion related to race -- obviously the legal system isn't very color blind.

However, I understand that some people want me out of this country, especially when I point out things like xenophobia, racism, and misogyny which is quite prevalent here. But I guess that's also the dichotomy of being xenophobic. Hence, I think I'll hang around here a bit longer, (besides, I don't like to be told what to do).



So I guess you have then been to a few different countries on this planet..?



You are so correct. Besides from being well traveled and educated, obviously you're also among those who can read and think.



Sorry, I somehow forgot to include a poll. Hopefully it won't happen again.



Thank you, but unfortunately I think I could already write an "Idiot's Guide to Dating -- What Not to Say and Do" based entirely on personal experiences. And no, I'm not very proud of it.

-- peer

While I deservedly left Peer bad rep, he was nice enough to leave positive rep for me, along with a back handed compliment, and something about teaching me something about "class".... Whenever I hear someone say that, I realize they are probably somewhat lacking in social skills and adequate interpersonal communication.

Peer's filthy language tells me he needs some help. In the meantime, I'll pray for him.

Flex

 

[Peer]

Sadly, violence against women is the same in "Kingdom" of Norway as it is here in the United States.

Actually, domestic violence in Norway is among the lowest in the world, even lower than in the United States. However, since Norway has a long history of women's rights, the women there are also more outspoken about this issue and would naturally try to make sure that this unacceptable behavior will soon be part of the past. Besides, almost 60% of the domestic violence in Norway happen in families of ethnic minorities (predominantly muslim Pakistanis). And if you look at the most misogynic cultures (e.g., the Muslim nations) there are no reports of domestic violence, which certainly doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. A similar thing goes for Sweden and their very high suicide rate. If you look at those numbers and are not familiar with how compulsive the Swedes are when it comes to statistics, you might think there are more suicides in Sweden than elsewhere. However, in Sweden they investigate, for instance, every traffic fatality as a potential suicide. Such thorough data collection brings their numbers to a different level than, for example, Ireland where there's a certain stigma associated with suicide, and hence, is quite under reported. Under reporting domestic violence here in the States is a known problem -- the American culture is very private compared to Norway, and hence makes it more difficult to collect factual numbers of how widespread this problem is.

Might want to get off that Norwegian high horse.

You know very little about me. I'm so far from being on a "Norwegian high horse". I can give you a hint though; from all the articles I've written about Norway, criticizing the Norwegian mindset, about fundamental west-coast Christians beating up their wives, about their inadequate immigration policies, etc., I bet there were quite a few Norwegians who were happy to see me leave ;^)

Peer's filthy language tells me he needs some help. In the meantime, I'll pray for him.

So you will pray for me? Thank you, that's so very kind and classy of you.

-- peer

 

[Russ Chewning]

You know very little about me. I'm so far from being on a "Norwegian high horse". I can give you a hint though; from all the articles I've written about Norway, criticizing the Norwegian mindset, about fundamental west-coast Christians beating up their wives, about their inadequate immigration policies, etc., I bet there were quite a few Norwegians who were happy to see me leave ;^)

-- peer

I think I get it now.

You b!tch and complain no matter where you are in the world, and generally, make people dislike you for your cynical attitude?

Well. Certainly glad you made THAT clear!

Russ

 

[ShootingArts]

Is this scary or funny?

I just noticed the Google ad at the bottom of the page after all of the posts about social etiquette in a pool hall between the sexes. Not sure if this is funny or Google is getting carried away with data mining and ad placement!

(bottom of page three)
How to Get the Girl
Learn the Timeless Laws of Attracting Women
ArtofApproaching.com

 

[D-Sub]

Do you agree that there seems to be no polite way to tell someone you aren't interested? I feel like no matter how nicely I say it, I will always come across at the "B*tch"...

"no thanks. not interested."

"I came here to practice. Alone. Thanks!"

PLENTY of ways to not sound like a b---h. Marissa's attitude isn't one of them. NOT saying she is one of those, but I just can't understand when getting a little attention turned so damned offensive!

 

[D-Sub]

I try very hard to say "No Thank You" in the kindest of ways but any kind of no seems to be taken the wrong way. It's like, why did you ASK a yes or no question if you knew you'd be offended by the possible "no" answer. It's not personal. Sometimes I just want to play on my own. Sometimes I have something in particular I'm practicing or trying to warm up. Just b/c you're a man and I'm a women, DOESN'T mean I automatically swoon at your favor.

Cute Story:
Lodini and I are shooting scotch doubles at a bar one night and we've been beating everyone there for a couple of hours. Guy comes up to me and says, "you should put you're name on the chalkboard if you want to play." I tell him I'm currently playing right now with Lodini and he says to me, "yeah, but me and my boy are up next and we'll never lose to two girls!"

(Talk about offensive!!! ... and totally the wrong thing to say to me! Lodini's face when I told her what they said was priceless )

Lodini and I crushed them. They walked out without even a handshake cursing that girls can't play pool, we got lucky, we cheated, anything but that they simply got beat! Course the crowd might have fed the ego-swallowing lack of politeness!

It still amazes me when a man loses to a women and the guy's friends all say, "I can't believe you just lost to a girl!" Like it's shocking or something!! WTF??

OK, see..now that sort of behavior is unacceptable. I've had dudes tell me "don't lose to that CHICK" and I tell them to shut the **** UP. Billiards has nothing to do with testosterone and the only advantage I can see a guy having is maybe the break due to strength and mass.

So...props to you for trying to be polite, but then...when someone no longer deserves politeness feel free to light into them!

 

[justnum]

Tough situation to be in I hope no one gets injured when a resolution is found.

 

[phoebe choy]

I dont see the mystery here ...

Man goes to hang out, drink,(gamble maybe) and shoot pool...

Woman walks into the room full up on all of that competetion, booze, and shit talking....she is prime target...

Is it right, nah.... but it is how it is..

This pretty much sums up this whole thread.

I'm a girl, I know how it works - it's a pool hall - there is only so much you can expect. I loved the game, thats why I stuck around to play. You think the guys really took interest that I was getting good? Of course not...maybe some...but most complimented my shots while looking at my ass...it's the way it goes.....deal with it if you're a girl. If not, then don't play or stay home and play. I don't have a table at home and had no choice....I wanted to compete so I had to play at the hall.

It's tough for girls...they gotta deal with all kinds of bs - for the one's who really love the game and mentally can block the bs out - they will survive. You almost have to be like on of the guys in the pool halls....you have to have the balls to gamble, the skill to back it up, and skin that is rock hard cause you will get all kinds of daggers and cheap shot thrown at you. Not all guys are like this...but in every pool hall there will be a few if not more.

I felt the best way to prove myself to all the guys was to get good....not ok good...real good - play even with the guys, gamble whatever stakes....I got my wins AND took my lickings....thats how you learn.....thats how you remain. The most rewarding part is when they all know you are constantly getting better.....in my hall, after a while (like 5 years, lol) nobody gave me cheesy lines (unless when joking around), nobody tried hitting on me, nobody treated me like I was some groupie, in fact they used to tell everyone "don't let her looks fool you, she got balls!"

But one thing still remained....friends, foes and strangers alike would still watch me play.......and I can guarantee they still were looking at my ass. Either on purpose or as a reaction it didn't matter.....they are guys and it's a pool hall....you should know what to expect.

 

[yobagua]

This pretty much sums up this whole thread.

I'm a girl, I know how it works - it's a pool hall - there is only so much you can expect. I loved the game, thats why I stuck around to play. You think the guys really took interest that I was getting good? Of course not...maybe some...but most complimented my shots while looking at my ass...it's the way it goes.....deal with it if you're a girl. If not, then don't play or stay home and play. I don't have a table at home and had no choice....I wanted to compete so I had to play at the hall.

It's tough for girls...they gotta deal with all kinds of bs - for the one's who really love the game and mentally can block the bs out - they will survive. You almost have to be like on of the guys in the pool halls....you have to have the balls to gamble, the skill to back it up, and skin that is rock hard cause you will get all kinds of daggers and cheap shot thrown at you. Not all guys are like this...but in every pool hall there will be a few if not more.

I felt the best way to prove myself to all the guys was to get good....not ok good...real good - play even with the guys, gamble whatever stakes....I got my wins AND took my lickings....thats how you learn.....thats how you remain. The most rewarding part is when they all know you are constantly getting better.....in my hall, after a while (like 5 years, lol) nobody gave me cheesy lines (unless when joking around), nobody tried hitting on me, nobody treated me like I was some groupie, in fact they used to tell everyone "don't let her looks fool you, she got balls!"

But one thing still remained....friends, foes and strangers alike would still watch me play.......and I can guarantee they still were looking at my ass. Either on purpose or as a reaction it didn't matter.....they are guys and it's a pool hall....you should know what to expect.

Phoebe when I first saw you play you just knocked me out. I thought here is one American that could give the Brits (Alison, Karen,etc) and the Asians (Jennifer C, Ga Young, etc.) all they could ask for. You shot so straight and your stroke was so powerful. Not to mention you was one "local wahine" (Hawaiian female) too. Man I was so proud to see you play. Yeah you are beautiful and something to look at. But your prospect of bringing a new type of game to the womans game was right there. Not the mechanical robotic technique but the style that originated with people like Hawaiian Brian, Black, Sammo, to Rodney Morris. Playing with heart and fire. People wonder why the Hawaii boys were part of the most decorated unit (100th battalion and 442cnd) in World War 2. Well because Islanders live by one credo and that is "Go for Broke". That meant go all the way, 110%, That was Brians style and Rodneys style. I saw that in you.
I really was disappointed when you retired to have a family. But that was selfish on my part. You could have broke the stereotypes. I know when you put your cue together people were not thinking about your okole but they were saying "watchout this wahine can shoot, brah."

 

[JimS]

Peer; I like what you have to say.

 

[Roy Steffensen]

I think I get it now.

You b!tch and complain no matter where you are in the world, and generally, make people dislike you for your cynical attitude?

Well. Certainly glad you made THAT clear!

Russ

LOL

So true!

The day Peer left Norway is now an official celebrationday in Norway

 

[GG11]

OK, see..now that sort of behavior is unacceptable. I've had dudes tell me "don't lose to that CHICK" and I tell them to shut the **** UP. Billiards has nothing to do with testosterone and the only advantage I can see a guy having is maybe the break due to strength and mass.

So...props to you for trying to be polite, but then...when someone no longer deserves politeness feel free to light into them!

Thanks!!! I'll try to do some sh*t talking back next time!!! But I usually leave that up to Lodini ... she's MUCH more of a BadAss than I am!!

 

[lodini]

Thanks!!! I'll try to do some sh*t talking back next time!!! But I usually leave that up to Lodini ... she's MUCH more of a BadAss than I am!!

Hey! I am a sweetheart

(until you get a few drinks in me!)

 

[GG11]

Hey! I am a sweetheart

(until you get a few drinks in me!)

You are a sweetheart, even with the drinks .... and you are a major badass, even without the drinks.

 

[Sweet Marissa]

"no thanks. not interested."

"I came here to practice. Alone. Thanks!"

PLENTY of ways to not sound like a b---h. Marissa's attitude isn't one of them. NOT saying she is one of those, but I just can't understand when getting a little attention turned so damned offensive!

Not offensive, but when they don't take a polite declination and want to stick around and bother me, they're breaking my concentration and wasting my table time. It is obvious when I, or any other female here I'm sure, is there to practise and not bang balls around.