Not all of them have two votes I don’t think or at least that’s what I remember from the podcast. I think EU has 2, Asia should have 2 but the ACBS only has 1 due to being on a probationary period. I don’t know who else has 1 vs. 2
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I’m unclear too if this was an ordinary resolution (50% approval) or special resolution (75% approval). I’m not aware from their constitution what would require only a 66% approval.
WPA is a non-profit, so any money coming in has to go for salaries or go out. They have to stay within a budget and can keep a financial reserve. I don't think they have to share their financials. They have to keep to the rules of a non-profit.
Did this need a full vote or just a quorum?
Based on their organogram the pathway from individual games is direct to WPA for less popular games.
However for the popular games, federations are in charge but under the authority of the WPA.
Why UMB and WPA and IBSF are on equal levels in the chart is an interest?
This is the official chart as of Oct 27 2023. You may or may not be right depending on which region specific events are held.
Can we talk about keywords?
World
International
How is world different than international?
Professional
Did the IOC give power to govern all these diverse entities or was the WCBS and WPA attempting a power grab in the absence of a competition for power?
Questioning the legitimacy of power can be considered a death penalty.
World
International
How is world different than international?
Professional
Did the IOC give power to govern all these diverse entities or was the WCBS and WPA attempting a power grab in the absence of a competition for power?
Questioning the legitimacy of power can be considered a death penalty.
You make no sense. None of this is as complicated as you try to make it. WPA realizes that MR is a badass, take-no-prisoner business that doesn't really give a shit what these stuffed shirt carpetbaggers do.
Obviously, I already know the hierarchical structure. I am merely opining that heyball would fit better under IBSF.
What if they are conspiring together right now? MR is forced to separate because they have different moves planned for MR nineball and Mosconi Cup.
The players have never been happy. The one time most players were happy about the state of pool was the IPT and that didn't work out in for the long term.
Pool players have a poor self temperature check, they are completely clueless to the industry competition for the limited players and viewers.
Nothing should make sense in pool. Look up the definition of Civil War Confederates. Confederates is and outdated term.
Schools in the South are starting to change those school mascots or labels.
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You’re starting to cross a line. Please consider that speaking of plantation punishments is not something relevant to pool, the WPA, or anything that should be used in analogy aside from directly respecting the strife it was directly in its time.
I was referring to the denial to organize by players to self govern in their federations. Each federation only has few player it needs to keep in line. It is easy to outnumber a player with bureaucracy and legal documents.
It has been a theme in the past players typically get screwed when promoters promise big.
The WPA is promising big time prizes. The only reference from plantation punishments would be something similar to Nat Turner Rebellion.
A rebellion where people had to be awoken to the reality of their life. It was crushed shortly after. But it would not be the last rebellion.
The guy is borderline batshit crazy imo. Most of what he spouts is OUT THERE.
How's that Olympic thing going? Only been 25 years now the WPA is working on it!
The WPA is at a crossroads that they've driven themselves to.
I'm thinking the ONLY way they can win this battle long-term is if they stop hiding behind the individual federations' contributions and actually pony up something of substance for their players.
Move from grabbing sanction fees from the players and instead collect dues that give players something in return other than "calendar protection" for events that the players don't produce. I understand trying to sort out what type of benefits could be extended to players who come from such varying countries and conditions would be difficult and maybe that's the crux of the problem for the WPA. How can a global organization offer anything of value to the players? Health insurance and retirement benefits would be all but impossible, but surely someone smarter than me could think of something.
You can't tell me that being apart of an exclusive, global professional athletic organization couldn't come with some benefits. Start brainstorming WPA or be left behind. Come up with a collection of 10 benefits and couple that with voting rights for the players, and then all of a sudden you "own" the Professional Pool Player's union and you're back in business.
I'm thinking the ONLY way they can win this battle long-term is if they stop hiding behind the individual federations' contributions and actually pony up something of substance for their players.
Move from grabbing sanction fees from the players and instead collect dues that give players something in return other than "calendar protection" for events that the players don't produce. I understand trying to sort out what type of benefits could be extended to players who come from such varying countries and conditions would be difficult and maybe that's the crux of the problem for the WPA. How can a global organization offer anything of value to the players? Health insurance and retirement benefits would be all but impossible, but surely someone smarter than me could think of something.
You can't tell me that being apart of an exclusive, global professional athletic organization couldn't come with some benefits. Start brainstorming WPA or be left behind. Come up with a collection of 10 benefits and couple that with voting rights for the players, and then all of a sudden you "own" the Professional Pool Player's union and you're back in business.
Well stated.
It was an effective strategy designed to educate the Heyball manufacturers on how to discontinue legacy cue games and create a future monopoly.
The Olympics was never the intended goal, it was the carrot.
Does it feel like they have been pursuing Olympics with all the recent announcements?
The WPA is becoming fast friends in very interesting parts of the world with questionable governments.
If you asked who is influencing the WPA the most right now, its the ACBS. A sign of more to come.
I've been reading up on European governance styles.
It is from the LOC New York, C. Scribner, 1859.
The traditional style of governance outside of the US is described.
Jobs are for life. The article is about German governing style for appointing positions.
It clearly states appointed position allow for putting personal interests above professional interests.
The work is title "Peasant life in Germany"
It is doubtful Americans will understand the choices non-Americans make to live. Or how their government structures are designed.
It is from the LOC New York, C. Scribner, 1859.
The traditional style of governance outside of the US is described.
Jobs are for life. The article is about German governing style for appointing positions.
It clearly states appointed position allow for putting personal interests above professional interests.
The work is title "Peasant life in Germany"
It is doubtful Americans will understand the choices non-Americans make to live. Or how their government structures are designed.