Daniel, our match might make series 1, so be on your best behaviour when i'm beating you, or the hooligan might have to act up for TV
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Daniel, our match might make series 1, so be on your best behaviour when i'm beating you, or the hooligan might have to act up for TV
Daniel, our match might make series 1, so be on your best behaviour when i'm beating you, or the hooligan might have to act up for TV
We'll see about that, Lee. I'm hoping we will both be in stroke.
I think it would be interesting to see something more like "top shot" or "the ultimate fighter" with pool legends to coach players. Can you imagine pool players living together???? gambling, egos, the whole 9. at least that would be formatted with an over arching objective. I mean duck dynasty, american chopper, these shows are a joke. Pool deserves more that that.
I hope it works out.
I hope it works out.
I think he had 90% of the Az family's attention at sticky icky
Sure would be great if it did get pool kicking again.:smile:
Nothing Compares
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Nothing compares to everybody being themselves, doing what they do- every pro player, every head of industry, every cue builder, gambling, woofing, eating, sleeping, negotiating, LIVING-
there is no script better than real life:grin-square:
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Nothing compares to everybody being themselves, doing what they do- every pro player, every head of industry, every cue builder, gambling, woofing, eating, sleeping, negotiating, LIVING-
there is no script better than real life:grin-square:
You guys are talking about a pool reality show like it will have something to do with pool: it won't. It's about the characters, their ups and downs, relationships, arguments and such. Pool will just be the background.
We'll pick it apart because we expect it to be accurate about pool. But the producers want the public to love Betty, hate Bill, think Jim is a snake and tune in next week to see if Jane double-crosses Jay.
Reality shows aren't reality. The characters are professional actors, the dialog is scripted nothing is left to chance.
Watch one episode of The Bachelor.
But the result will be great for pool.
We'll pick it apart because we expect it to be accurate about pool. But the producers want the public to love Betty, hate Bill, think Jim is a snake and tune in next week to see if Jane double-crosses Jay.
Reality shows aren't reality. The characters are professional actors, the dialog is scripted nothing is left to chance.
Watch one episode of The Bachelor.
But the result will be great for pool.
The characters picked for the reality show we are doing, are defo not actors... Well unless they are trying to hide their true speed and then the oscar performance comes out...
Jay,
I haven't followed the threads on the reality show thing although I had an idea and posted it once on a thread Colin Colenso posted.
I have to agree with you and I think there are several things like this that are going on behind the scenes. I would like to think that US Pool maybe down but its not out and I would like to see it turning around good by the time I check out of here. My hope is that new formats will get the people we have still playing, back playing. I think people having fun is a good way to attract people back to the game as well.
Yup.
The problem with pool (everyones favorite phrase) is there is no entity to sell with a show. The UFC was selling the UFC. They didnt do the show to sell MMA in general. Before a show will have any serious impact on the game and industry there has to be a structure in place to take advantage of the attention a show could bring. Most successful reality shows are nothing but a commercial for a particular business: Duck Dynasty=Duck Commander, American Chopper=OCC, Pawn Stars=LV pawn shop...and so on.
So unless its an American Idol type thing it will almost have to end up a show in the Jersey Shore/Mob Wives/Housewives of Boston (or whatever city they are on now) type show.
I sincerely hope I am wrong and some good people make a good show that helps the industry and players as a whole. I've heard various things about different shows in various stages of production. Time will tell if anything ever sees the light of day.
it's already on the table....
yes the ultimate fighter 1st finale helped the ufc greatly but it still would of turned into a billion dollar business because it is a sport that sells itself that was bought out by billionaires and the previous owners didn't have the $ to grow the business, the ufc got really lucky w the griffin vs bonner fight sort of a reality show lottery ticket but the company still would of taken off like a rocket all it did was speed up the launch
now look @ the ultimate fighter and the ufc, they've gotten away from their bread n butter and keep changing the show because of low ratings they moved it to brazil and now half the cast is women, their model worked a few years ago because mma wasn't as big but now most of the elite fighters are already in the ufc so there's not much left out there to choose from, the show is ruining the brand by watering it down, mma has been my favorite sport to watch since i saw ufc 3 but now i could careless for the most part
reality tv keeps trying to reinvent the wheel which only works for so long, sadly pool would need a show about people like gene and rhea but w about 1000 times the drama and they would make it fine on tru tv
now look @ the ultimate fighter and the ufc, they've gotten away from their bread n butter and keep changing the show because of low ratings they moved it to brazil and now half the cast is women, their model worked a few years ago because mma wasn't as big but now most of the elite fighters are already in the ufc so there's not much left out there to choose from, the show is ruining the brand by watering it down, mma has been my favorite sport to watch since i saw ufc 3 but now i could careless for the most part
reality tv keeps trying to reinvent the wheel which only works for so long, sadly pool would need a show about people like gene and rhea but w about 1000 times the drama and they would make it fine on tru tv
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Everyone sees the light eventually. :wink:
I will agree with one thing you said here... the best format for a reality show about "pool" would be centered around a pool players life in general, the hopefully soon to be celebrity character would be the attraction and the pool would be secondary if I were trying to draw attention to pool. The character has to be cool and interesting though... someone people have to watch... someone the kids want to be like.
There were a lot of advantages that TUF had over any reality show that pool will produce.
1) They had a station like Spike who was looking for sports programming but they had no budget for licensing. Spike decided that they were going to stand behind either K-1 or UFC and although they preferred K-1... because they werent thrilled about the grappling... things didnt work out with K-1 and their second choice in the UFC got the nod.
Once they decided on the UFC, the sport of mma benefitted because it was the promotion of spike imo, not the Fertittas, who were already 40 million in dept and SO close to pulling the plug, that really gave the UFC or mma for that matter its start into mainstream here in the US.
2) The othe big advantage TUF had besides major commitment and promotion from the network is... TUF had a built in audience. The scheduling behind WWE RAW gave them a great lead in with fans who were already into fake fighting and now they were getting a chance to see the real thing. No pool show is going to have anything like that.
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Great post.
Dana White is on record as saying they were going to pull the plug but decided to wait and see how the show did first since they were already paying for its production. Without that show there would be no UFC as we know it today.
My fear is that to make it entertaining to the "reality show crowd," they'll put all this ugly stuff in it. Key characters will be big apes with full sleeve tattoos and cigarettes drooping from their mouths, the women will be Tonya Harding wannabes, they'll have near-fights, affairs, and so on. Look at these towing shows, Operation Repo, Orange County Choppers, etc. For sure, they won't just show a "bunch of nice people playing nice pool."
So as far as benefiting pool in general, it could go either way.
So as far as benefiting pool in general, it could go either way.