practice stroke question
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There's an Instructor forum on here. You may want to try there.
This is true for me personally speaking.
If you watch Efren he hits the cueball with no pause between his last practice stroke and the actual hit and comes closer to his true speed of stroke than any other player I have seen. It has the effect of doubling the length of his stroke and greatly enhances his timing resulting in better speed control.
I think players tend to slow their practice strokes after facing numerous short bridge situations near rails.
MarcusG19...Nonsense. The speed of the backstroke has no bearing whatsoever on the speed of the forward stroke. The backswing should always be smooth and relaxed, with an easy transition to the accelerated forward stroke, which has a natural finish point, on your body, and on the table.
Scott Lee
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Scott Lee
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That's what i was taught 50 years ago by a top Jersey player and that is how i have always done it. Good solid mechanics.
???? I have to put those up for Scott Lee every so often.
Of course you are practising the speed of your shot, why else take a practice stroke? Now, like Scott's example, power shots, you can't take the proper stroke. It is nice to take the longer stroke though.
If I move the CB only 1 diamond to OB and stop or move diamond or two after constact my practice strokes are the same. Even more power my practice stroke is the same as final stroke, I just lengthen the stroke.
So to answer your question, YES as often as you can! You can't do it with power shots though. If you try your practice strokes would look like John S. All his strokes are really quick and hard, looks odd but he sure makes it work.
Of course you are practising the speed of your shot, why else take a practice stroke? Now, like Scott's example, power shots, you can't take the proper stroke. It is nice to take the longer stroke though.
If I move the CB only 1 diamond to OB and stop or move diamond or two after constact my practice strokes are the same. Even more power my practice stroke is the same as final stroke, I just lengthen the stroke.
So to answer your question, YES as often as you can! You can't do it with power shots though. If you try your practice strokes would look like John S. All his strokes are really quick and hard, looks odd but he sure makes it work.
BS....SPF=randyg
Sorry Jason, your wrong. Almost no one plays like that. Except you.
theres always some kind of pause b/t the backswing and the delivery...its impossible to not have some kind of pause.
I agree with everything Scott says here, but I don't think Marcus asked about the backstroke. I think he asked whether the forward practice strokes should be the same speed as the final forward stroke (although he didn't say so specifically, it's the only sensible interpretation).
My answer is yes, it should be helpful to match your forward practice strokes as closely as possible to the stroke speed you'll need for the shot, even though you obviously can't duplicate it exactly because you have to stop your practice strokes short. I find that doing this helps me to visualize the small differences in how my arm delivers the stroke at different shot speeds, which helps me aim more precisely, and also helps me visualize the CB's path and speed more realistically.
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You and one or two others agree. Thats interesting. I have never considered the "pace" of the foward practice stroke. For me its making sure the cue is gonna hit the ball where I want.... That the grip is loose...cue moving straight ect. I'll take it up as an experiment to feel it out.
And yes,the question is about the "foward" half of the stroke.
Here is 9 + minutes of it...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jx3t-eYzsTY&feature=related
Here is 50 + minutes and check out 11:40
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTGMZVben94
All the pro's practice stroke looks very close to the same speed as their actual stroke!
I don't know what you clowns are talking about. That BCA instructor thing... I take anyone can get one?
This is my stroke... I was just playing the cuetable thing and not really trying or I would have 3-5 practice strokes. I stroke the same speed (practice as my actual stroke to hit CB) most of the time!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpIl1m_Z0vs
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There were a ton of shots hit harder than the warm up strokes. What I'll give you is that a ton of shots also match the warm up strokes.
If you break the shot speed into 10 segments, most shots below a 5 speed the warm up stroke is closely matched to shot speed. All the faster paced shots had a slower warm up than the shot itself.
Just like my first post. Doesn't work for power strokes.
I can see where your comming from. Its just that the OP asked if the warn up should match the final stroke. The real answer is no. Although on a lot of shots its close only because most shots dont need much power.
The warm up is to focus on tip placement. Speed, alignment, position, are all decieded before you ever bend over. If your warm up always changes pace or stroke length thats not very consistant. Most players without a ton of natural ability cannot handle the inconsistency.
Not wanting to hijack the thread but I have to mention a young man in my league that does something that drives me nuts (it's not a very long drive 
). His practice strokes, all of them, always looks as though he's about to cream the cue ball. I've seen him many times take these big 'ol long, fast practice strokes, then on his final stroke he'll slow it to a crawl and shoot a light safety shot with the cue ball nor object ball not travelling no more than a foot or so. Now, I can't agree with this technique for practice stroking a very slow-rolled shot. I shorten my stroke AND slow it down somewhat when I'm going to shoot a very short, slow-rolled shot but I don't know if this is the right way to do it or not, it just works for me. I shoot any shot three speed or higher with the same speed practice stroke and ALWAYS draw back slow before the pause on my final stroke.
Maniac
). His practice strokes, all of them, always looks as though he's about to cream the cue ball. I've seen him many times take these big 'ol long, fast practice strokes, then on his final stroke he'll slow it to a crawl and shoot a light safety shot with the cue ball nor object ball not travelling no more than a foot or so. Now, I can't agree with this technique for practice stroking a very slow-rolled shot. I shorten my stroke AND slow it down somewhat when I'm going to shoot a very short, slow-rolled shot but I don't know if this is the right way to do it or not, it just works for me. I shoot any shot three speed or higher with the same speed practice stroke and ALWAYS draw back slow before the pause on my final stroke.Maniac