Question For the defection guru's

Wouldn't that mass be independent of the rigidity of the cue material then?

I'm pretty much with deanoc on this. :grin:
 
Does a tight closed bridge cause more squirt than a loose or open bridge?
It can if your bridge is shorter than about 6 inches and you have bony fingers (or you're an unfortunate pirate). If you use a 12-inch bridge and/or have normal, relatively soft hands (compared to wood), your bridge won't have much effect on squirt for the reason Fred explained above.

As for understanding all of this, it's not necessary for good play, but it is important to know that different cues squirt differently and if you are trying to pick a cue to use, it better squirt like the cues you are used to or you should be prepared to make different adjustments.
 
So basically all of the Low Deflection Shafts are mislabled? Should it not be Low Squirt as they deflect more b/c of the reduction of end mass?

If this is correct they still made a good decision on the naming, as Low Deflection just sounds more marketable than Low Squirt lol.


Merry Christmas,
Grey GHost
 
When you reduce the mass (cue shaft) you increase shaft deflection and decrease 'cue ball squirt'

Reducing mass doesn't necessarily increase shaft deflection, and you don't need to increase shaft deflection to reduce squirt. A hollow tip area can be tapered so that it's very stiff. My tip is under 10mm and hollow, but it's a straight taper (no cylindrical "pro taper") so it's very stiff.

pj
chgo
 
I didn't realize you wrote this Royce. I assure you, "we" knew about squirt/cueball deflection long before the advent of low deflection shafts. That might be one reason why some people don't find the advantage of low deflection shafts: because they consciously knew about squirt and did something about it in their game long before Predator and Steve Titus did their work.


Fred

Fred,

My apologies if I have offended you! I respect you and certainly did not intend to!

My comments come mostly from the my observations of players and their comments and actions. It always amazes me that some of them absolutely believe that they cannot adjust for changes in squirt or deflection, when they have been doing it for as long as they have been playing.

Royce Bunnell
www.obcues.com
 
This is so confusing I am thinking of giving up pool.After 50 years of playing I still can't understand.Here is my last question,when my cue is playing easy action and cheap pool I make lots of shots,but when I jack the bet and play tougher action then my cue starts miscueing and squirting,my question is How does that cue know I am playing higher?'

Dean,

It's not the cue that is missing or squirting, its the pockets! They get smaller when the bet goes up!

Royce Bunnell
www.obcues.com
 
So basically all of the Low Deflection Shafts are mislabled? Should it not be Low Squirt as they deflect more b/c of the reduction of end mass?

If this is correct they still made a good decision on the naming, as Low Deflection just sounds more marketable than Low Squirt lol.


Merry Christmas,
Grey GHost

Ghost,

Well, this is one of those things that has always bugged me.

Technically, as far as I understand it, deflection is the wrong term. However, it is what the public understands.

And you're right, it sounds better than low squirt!

Royce Bunnell
www.obcues.com
 
It can if your bridge is shorter than about 6 inches and you have bony fingers (or you're an unfortunate pirate). If you use a 12-inch bridge and/or have normal, relatively soft hands (compared to wood), your bridge won't have much effect on squirt for the reason Fred explained above.

As for understanding all of this, it's not necessary for good play, but it is important to know that different cues squirt differently and if you are trying to pick a cue to use, it better squirt like the cues you are used to or you should be prepared to make different adjustments.

With a loose bridge, does/can the shaft in the bridge move to the side (assume that English is applied/ off center ball hit) when it's tip impacts the cue ball and thus blunt the squirt?
 
It can if your bridge is shorter than about 6 inches and you have bony fingers (or you're an unfortunate pirate). If you use a 12-inch bridge and/or have normal, relatively soft hands (compared to wood), your bridge won't have much effect on squirt for the reason Fred explained above.

As for understanding all of this, it's not necessary for good play, but it is important to know that different cues squirt differently and if you are trying to pick a cue to use, it better squirt like the cues you are used to or you should be prepared to make different adjustments.

Speaking of unfortunate pirates, did you hear what happened to Captain Hook? His parrot crapped in his good eye and blinded him. What's that you say, parrot poop won't blind a man. It will if he wipes it out with his hook.
Damn, I'm out of eggnog.
 
In the furtre the pockets will move to the ball when you shoot lol....be like having some really strong magnets loaded in the pockets and a loaded cue ball....run out for days.
 
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