Quick pendulum stroke question
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I follow through almost exactly 4 inches.
I also am not using a death grip like the videos might suggest. The only coupling between my hand and the shaft is the fleshy part of my fingers.
But I should still loosen up the grip more. Using only my second and third fingers has helped.
I also am not using a death grip like the videos might suggest. The only coupling between my hand and the shaft is the fleshy part of my fingers.
But I should still loosen up the grip more. Using only my second and third fingers has helped.
Here is some non-instructor input.
Your grip is too tight....Not so much on the set up...You appear to start with a relaxed grip...but it really looks like it gets tight when you apply the stroke...(It almost looks like you are trying to abruptly stop the forward momentum of the cue).....try to keep it relaxed (at the finish of your stroke)
regarding the stance....Why not go with a equally balanced stance???
It appears in the first video that you put all your weight on you front foot. You plant your front foot and then reach back with your back foot...
In the second video it appears you put all your weight on the back foot...You plant your back foot and then reach forward with your front foot....(you even had to check yourself because it looked like you lost balance and had to re-do the reach forward)
I would suggest trying the old "two step"
Start by standing "square" to the shot and placing your back foot on the aim/(Cue) line....step (and transfer weight) forward with your front foot....then take a small step straight back with your back foot (and transfer weight back to a balanced position)
It also seemed like (in the video) you were not quite sure where to step with your front foot.
If you start by standing "square" to the shot line, with you feet about shoulder width apart...all you have to do is take a normal step straight forward with your front foot....(paralell to the shot line)
Meh...just something to try....you will eventually find your own natural method.....It will probably be a blend of all the other methods that you have seen.
Good luck
Yes you should, and do not clench your hand at the end of the stroke.
Have you worked out your stance yet? Think comfortable and balanced.
Have you worked out your stance yet? Think comfortable and balanced.
Comfortable and balanced...with free movement of the cuestick, along your natural range of motion. Find the start and finish to your stroke. Measure it with a ruler.
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
Actually a high elbow allows a player to get down lower on the shot without struggling to work into a proper head position and putting undue stress on the body.
With an elbow position where the bicep is on plane with the floor you either end up side saddling or craning your neck if you want to get low. Many of the old players were upright but they played mainly straight pool which is a slightly different skill set than rotation games.
Do A google search for professional pool player images and note that the vast majority have high elbows and are low on the cue.
With an elbow position where the bicep is on plane with the floor you either end up side saddling or craning your neck if you want to get low. Many of the old players were upright but they played mainly straight pool which is a slightly different skill set than rotation games.
Do A google search for professional pool player images and note that the vast majority have high elbows and are low on the cue.
Start shooting left-handed.
I saw your video,all you need to do is not have your chin on the cue it is not important, just raise your body up about half a foot and that should solve the problem.
Ray Martin
I've been playing around with everybody's suggestions. It's all been a lot of help.
The most interesting thing is that I am surprised to how quickly my brain adapts to new stance adjustments. It takes only about 30 minutes to stat seeing balls fly into the pockets.
It appears that my mind automatically knows what it needs to do. This a good time to experiment with optimum comfort in my stance. I don't feel that I'm going to have to start from the drawing board when I figure it out.
I'll post some more videos soon.
The most interesting thing is that I am surprised to how quickly my brain adapts to new stance adjustments. It takes only about 30 minutes to stat seeing balls fly into the pockets.
It appears that my mind automatically knows what it needs to do. This a good time to experiment with optimum comfort in my stance. I don't feel that I'm going to have to start from the drawing board when I figure it out.
I'll post some more videos soon.
nrhoades...Just remember, changing your stance isn't going to fix your "too tight" grip problem. However, you can fix that aspect by being more conscious of it...just like you are now doing with your stance.
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
I used to stand like your video#1 (back foot very far back). One day I happened to pull it forward & it felt better. This got me to thinking that a new stance would help my consistency. I moved on to something like your video#2. It looks like your going down the same road as me, which is morphing into snooker-like stance. If you can do it, you will be amazed how your cue will automatically lock in & your body will become rock steady.
Search youtube for "Del Hill stance" & "snooker pro tips stance". In the end, your stance should never hurt. Maybe stretch muscles at first, but never hurt.
EDIT: I made the search for you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSK4w_9S_x0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuAybFy38h4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rBe54E4rbE
Please note that a key component of solidifying your body is a good hip turn into your forward leg (bent knee). Watch closely at the man's waist in the last vid (particularly 0:30 & 0:40). The hip turn locks your body in place & helps rotate your shoulders for better alignment. Without the hip turn, your spine has to do the twisting, which leads to fatigue.
Search youtube for "Del Hill stance" & "snooker pro tips stance". In the end, your stance should never hurt. Maybe stretch muscles at first, but never hurt.
EDIT: I made the search for you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSK4w_9S_x0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuAybFy38h4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rBe54E4rbE
Please note that a key component of solidifying your body is a good hip turn into your forward leg (bent knee). Watch closely at the man's waist in the last vid (particularly 0:30 & 0:40). The hip turn locks your body in place & helps rotate your shoulders for better alignment. Without the hip turn, your spine has to do the twisting, which leads to fatigue.
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I took your advice. I started a new thread: http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?p=3090889#post3090889