Not all european players use ld shaft. Thorsten Hohman uses a standard shaft
R There Any Top Level Pro's that DON'T usa a LD Shaft?
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Can you say it any better yourself than that? I rest my case.
I've lived in the RP for a long time...there aren't many LD shafts made in the RP??? Name one????? Yet it's the Mecca of Pool. Explain that?
It's all "natural" free-balling, "Seat of the Pants" Most of these kids are growing up on broomsticks
Sometimes you can't improve on nature.
I also have trouble playing with ivory
They are "low deflection," not "no deflection," so they work, and there is some adjustment. For me the regular shafts deflect the perfect amount, however, I do have to make sure the diameter of the shaft is correct. This may be slightly different for each shaft I assume due to stiffness, flex, etc.
I also have trouble playing with ivory. My Bludworth cue that I won the World Championships with originally had ivory ferrules and joint. The first day I played with it I sent it back to Leonard and had him change both to a synthetic version ( I'm not sure what it was for sure).
"m not a cue fanatic, I just couldn't control the deflection and spin with the ivory. After he changed them I was fine and played some of the best pool of my life with that cue. I'm still using it today as a matter of fact.
They are "low deflection," not "no deflection," so they work, and there is some adjustment. For me the regular shafts deflect the perfect amount, however, I do have to make sure the diameter of the shaft is correct. This may be slightly different for each shaft I assume due to stiffness, flex, etc.
I also have trouble playing with ivory. My Bludworth cue that I won the World Championships with originally had ivory ferrules and joint. The first day I played with it I sent it back to Leonard and had him change both to a synthetic version ( I'm not sure what it was for sure).
"m not a cue fanatic, I just couldn't control the deflection and spin with the ivory. After he changed them I was fine and played some of the best pool of my life with that cue. I'm still using it today as a matter of fact.
Mike Davis just came into town and Sigel beat him 8-4 in 10 ball, lost to Davis in 8 ball, and in straight pool after a few safety battles Sigel ran 180 balls and out in straight pool. Mike Davis just unscrewed his cue and said to Sigel that he should be playing on the pro tour.
Yes, you do sound like a dick.
yea Sigel will be a "top player" as long as he's breathing, and you're a fool if you think otherwise.
pfft, you're reinterpreting his words to fit what you want to believe anyway...
Which is that there's something special or better about guys who learned on older shafts.
But there isn't, CJ went out of his way to say neither is better, and he could switch to LD if he had to with just a month to adjust.
There's no reason to be a fanboy about one or the other. If you want to feel special, play some amazing pool instead of bragging about irrelevant stuff like "here I am losing to efren" or "I learned how to spin balls with an old maple shaft".
Same procedure as every week here 
every shaft has deflection-some more, and some less.
You just have to stay with it, and then you can play with it.
The cue where you don t have to make adjustments would be like the holy gral ^^
And once you found a cue- which immediatley feels good......take it and save it for a lifetime. That would be the perfect solution^^
every shaft has deflection-some more, and some less.
You just have to stay with it, and then you can play with it.
The cue where you don t have to make adjustments would be like the holy gral ^^
And once you found a cue- which immediatley feels good......take it and save it for a lifetime. That would be the perfect solution^^
Same procedure as every week here
every shaft has deflection-some more, and some less.
You just have to stay with it, and then you can play with it.
The cue where you don t have to make adjustments would be like the holy gral ^^
And once you found a cue- which immediatley feels good......take it and save it for a lifetime. That would be the perfect solution^^
lol. True it does seem every week that there is some LD debate on here. However, this is the first time that a former world champion in CJ Wiley chimed in from my recollection. So that in itself is something special and appreciated by many on here.
Josh Brothers, Donny Mills... And they play equal to anyone worldwide..
I would love to hear what Dr. Dave has to say about this.
JoeyA's Prediction
As most of you know, I have studied parapsychology as a young man and I want to make a prediction based upon my keen extra sensory perception. :wink:
Within the next 10 years, most top level players will be playing with a LD shaft. It will be stiff and have low cueball deflection. It will not be made of standard maple or ash.
I purposefully used top level players instead of "professional players" because as we know, many professional players in every sport are often sponsored by companies that sell various equipment to their particular industry.
It may be much sooner than this even as soon as 1-2 years. The technology and interest in building performance cues is increasing and as each wave of new technology comes on board, there will be others seeking to create the magic baton.
I even predict that players of below average ability will be purchasing these cues in large numbers because they will actually be able to see measurable differences in their ability to play more consistently.
The future is looking good for technology in pool. (AND IT WON'T BE JUST ABOUT THE HYPE).
As most of you know, I have studied parapsychology as a young man and I want to make a prediction based upon my keen extra sensory perception. :wink:
Within the next 10 years, most top level players will be playing with a LD shaft. It will be stiff and have low cueball deflection. It will not be made of standard maple or ash.
I purposefully used top level players instead of "professional players" because as we know, many professional players in every sport are often sponsored by companies that sell various equipment to their particular industry.
It may be much sooner than this even as soon as 1-2 years. The technology and interest in building performance cues is increasing and as each wave of new technology comes on board, there will be others seeking to create the magic baton.
I even predict that players of below average ability will be purchasing these cues in large numbers because they will actually be able to see measurable differences in their ability to play more consistently.
The future is looking good for technology in pool. (AND IT WON'T BE JUST ABOUT THE HYPE).
Years ago, I took a lesson with a Pro. A LD shaft makes it easier to control the spin. He told me that a low deflection shaft will not give you more spin than a normal shaft. For him, it just take more effort to get the same performance out from a regular shaft. His other advice to me was I didn't need spin on every shot. He ran out a game of 9-ball just using follow, center-ball, and altering the ball speed.
In photography there is a saying. Beginners worry about price, Amateurs worry about equipment, and Professionals worry about light. In our case the Pros worry about their game, but everything else seems to hold true.
In photography there is a saying. Beginners worry about price, Amateurs worry about equipment, and Professionals worry about light. In our case the Pros worry about their game, but everything else seems to hold true.
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Isn't Charlie Williams a rep for Predator,I know he worked their booth at the SBE.
Isn't Charlie Williams a rep for Predator,I know he worked their booth at the SBE.
no obi no more
I have a young friend who just switched from a obi to a regular 12.33 shaft about a year ago. He is now playing the best pool by far of his young career. And let me tell you he can really swing it now.
I have a young friend who just switched from a obi to a regular 12.33 shaft about a year ago. He is now playing the best pool by far of his young career. And let me tell you he can really swing it now.
Well, he's already said it, you can read it on his site
*ahem* (puts on Dr. Dave voice)
There are several potential advantages and disadvantages to owning a low squirt shaft.
For more info, see:
http://billiards.colostate.edu/threads/cue.html#low_squirt
By the way, equipment choice isn't even 0.1% of what makes a pro play at their level.
I'm guessing most of the pros who own a standard shaft, at least had enough of an open mind to try LD shafts before knocking them, because they're more interested in improvement than in proving their favorite cue is the best in the world.
I would say that SOME top players have no clue what deflection is. Lol, but I hear ya. One our BEST players says there is no such thing as deflection.
I would say that SOME top players have no clue what deflection is. Lol, but I hear ya. One our BEST players says there is no such thing as deflection.
Right ...Some, many.A percentage etc.
Technology can not do for a pool stick what tennis has done to a tennis racket.
Think of a pool stick like a basketball.
Little to do with his cue.