ridewiththewind said:
This was a huge point I tried to bring up when I first posted about the raffle threads.....it does those who are trying to do straight sales a major disservice by their threads being pushed back quite quickly than would have been the norm in the pre-raffle days.
With the current economy, it's tough enough to make a sale these days than to have your thread continuously pushed back because of the rash of raffle threads being posted/bumped.
Raffles are legitimate sales, too. I think this effect of pushing other sales down quickly is greatly overstated. How many raffles are going on at once? Maybe six? At worst, any one straight sale is about six slots lower than it "would" have been, although all six or so raffles "would" have been a straight sale, and still around anyways.
ridewiththewind said:
It would seem that more and more members here are calling for at the very least a separate section for these raffles.
Unhappy people are usually the loudest. How many are in this thread? A dozen? How many total people are on this board?
ridewiththewind said:
As to that causing them to 'die off'....bollocks!! If they're going to 'die off', it doesn't matter where they are posted...
Did you read my reasoning? Would you like to respond to my reasoning? They may die off anyway, but banishing them to some distant part of the board with lower traffic, and less appeal to new traffic will definitely have a negative impact on them. And they are very popular at the moment, both with buyers and sellers.
ridewiththewind said:
people are going to tire of ridiculous mark-ups on the cues being raffled, and paying out monies over and over again and not seeing anything out of it...while the one holding the raffle and an extra $500 is laughing all the way to the bank.
This whole argument is nothing more than a red herring.
How many raffles have gone off with a cue getting $500 over "normal" price? I can think of potentially ONE (Monto's SW raffle), and even that one had a lot of people defending the price. It was most likely only $200 (or about 7%) over what a straight sale would get. Other people have listed pretty high initial prices, but those have gotten very little interest.
So it's not even close to true that these raffles are producing "ridiculous mark-ups," and even if it were true, well guess what, free market and all, people are spending their money how they want. If they want to buy a raffle ticket, they have all the information in front of them, and are able to determine for themselves if they want to go ahead and buy.
As of now, people are very happy with raffles. If they are going to die off, like you say then let that happen. What does "ridiculous mark-ups" and people tiring of raffles have to do with whether are moved or not?
ridewiththewind said:
I am also growing incredibly weary of 'newbies' coming here and deciding that they are going to dictate to those of us senior members how things are going to run from here on out.
Lisa
Who's a newbie dictating things? This is a discussion of ideas. Moreso, this is a community and it behooves everyone to do what's best for the community. Whatever the best idea is should be what's important, not just bending to the whim of whomever has been around longest.
and I would never suggest wiping front to back or vice versa , HOWEVER, some of the hot raffle threads have been bumped apprx. 20 times per day as a result of inane banter between the OP and "number" buyers among other communication. As a result sell/buy threads are pushed down the que and off of the "front" page very quickly minimizing their potential.
