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nataddrho

nataddrho

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FEB 22 UPDATE!! Check it out... thanks to your help I scored a 64 / 100! Thats up 23 balls from my last score of 41.

Looking for another round of peer review on Trial #2 please.

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CHALLENGE: 10 racks of 10 ball vs. ghost, 1 point per ball.
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TRIAL #2
SCORE: 64 / 100
Date: 2/20/2014
Peer Rating: ?
Peer Recommendations: ?
Video: http://youtu.be/iQBoLiAUjMU

TRIAL #1
SCORE: 41 / 100
Date: 2/17/2014
Peer Rating: C to C+
Peer Recommendations:
1) Improve stroke
2) Take more time aligning to shot line before dropping
3) Keep self conversations internal, no gestures.
Videos:
Part 1: http://youtu.be/7XrD9tvh4k8
Part 2: http://youtu.be/SLzqUEhnr4I

TRIAL #0
SCORE: 46 / 100
Date: 5/2/2013
Self Rating: C-
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMcRDwRdETs
 
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I only watched your first two racks so if I missed something amazing after those two then I am sorry. As for my opinion, I would call you a VNEA B player or from 1-10 1 being a new player and 10 being Shane VanBoening, I would call you a 5 maybe a 6. Someone who can run maybe 1 of 5 racks breaking and running. You have some fine tuning to do with your game and you seem to get heated at yourself pretty quickly like on the second rack when you came up short you got wayyyyy too mad at yourself. You also appear to hold the back of the cue pretty tight, when you stroke through the ball your follow through isn't very sound. I honestly think a good coach could make you a great player if you are able and willing to listen and learn. I am not saying you need to spend a bunch to go to someone far away, but just play some of your better local players for like table time or cheap sets and get some tips from them and watch them and learn from them.
 
Wow, you're right, it does LOOK like I get heated. And I don't like the way it looks. The hand and head jestures make it look that way even though I feel fine. I think now I understand why pros always look mad, but probably aren't, the little jestures. I can work on that especially in front of the camera.

I'll keep at it and work on making those other improvements. My long term goal is to be a solid B player.
 
c+ to b- player..... on the scale someone rated you above, where he made van boening a 10 you would be like a 2 just my opinion
 
nataddrho said:
10 racks of 10 ball vs. ghost, 1 point per ball. Scored 41/100.

What speed am I?

Part 1: http://youtu.be/7XrD9tvh4k8
Part 2: http://youtu.be/SLzqUEhnr4I
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The rating system on the 10-ball "playing the ghost" rating drill page is usually fairly accurate. It puts you at a C+.

Have you tried the BU Exams yet? If not, give them a try. They provide an accurate rating for a full range of pool skills (not just offensive 10-ball skills). If you do the exams, please post your scores (and videos, if available) along with your 10-ball scores and videos on the AZB BU thread, where other people have posted.

Good luck,
Dave
 
I would say your a C player as far as shooting ability and put some focus on the little things in the game. Not really little but not physical. Like others have mentioned put yourself in better position, think ahead a little bit more, solid bridges and also work on your break.

Pool levels kind of creep up on ya and then you jump up a level. Easier to move up at first then it gets tougher.

Take dead aim on the ball and shape.. you can also change but have solid focus on both each shot.
 
pletho said:
c+ to b- player..... on the scale someone rated you above, where he made van boening a 10 you would be like a 2 just my opinion
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Seriously? If 1 is an absolute beginner than a 2 can run a rack of 10 ball? That seems off to me, by quite a bit.
 
In our area, you would be a B player. You don't pocket very confidently or have that great of a stroke, but the balls go down.
 
I'm sorry but I didn't watch enough to give you my opinion on your rating. I just wanted to give you one pointer. It's something I did for a long time and it can help your game almost instantly.

Don't be a plopper! That's what I call players that just plop down into shooting position. I did that for a long time. Instead stay back and see the shot line first, plant yourself on that line, then address the cue ball.
 
Sorry also.... the music put me to sleep after the first rack.

Reminded me of that Thai Massage place I go too......:D
 
In my area, I would say C+. You have some weaknesses that keep you from a higher level such as losing position badly 1-2 times a rack, a weak break where the CB moves too much and a bad mental game. You seem to have a lot of self talking going on. If something doesn't go quite right, it seems to tilt you a bit.


Eric
 
C player C+ on you best days and best moods. Some mentioned addressing the ball as an issue and I say stabbing the ball as another. I think if you work hard on those two things you can quickly become a C+ on average to a B on you better days, This is just based on ball pocketing skills as position play seems weak (will fail when is most needed).

In the courage department A+, I commend you on recording yourself (something that all players should do) and putting it up for the public to rate, hats off
 
nataddrho said:
Wow, you're right, it does LOOK like I get heated. And I don't like the way it looks. The hand and head jestures make it look that way even though I feel fine. I think now I understand why pros always look mad, but probably aren't, the little jestures. I can work on that especially in front of the camera.

I'll keep at it and work on making those other improvements. My long term goal is to be a solid B player.
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The gestures especially flipping the hand over like wth, and pointing at something on the table or at a ball or whatever, seem to be the first things people learn when they start to run a few balls .
Most of us are monkey see monkey do people and we mimic our peers.

I heard of a young man who got irate about missing a few shots and the pro told him he didn't play good enough to get that mad!
Classic!
C to C+ . Pocketing balls is the hard part and you do that better than anything , so if you get some educational stuff , you should progress to the next level pretty easily.
 
I'd say you're on the cusp of breaking into the B range. It appears to me that your knowledge (and expectations) exceed your stroke by a good measure at this point.

On the mental side of things, I really like the way you bear down on difficult shots, but you need to be more consistent with that. Unless I misread you from the few racks I watched, you intend to (or perhaps are wired to) become a very analytical player. If that's the case, one of the keys for you will be to extract as much data as possible from each shot, and you can't do that unless you set very specific goals for each shot. Until you are down to the last ball, there is always a reason to grind out that mental process - find the angle you want on the next ball, find the best position route to get there, and strive for a high degree of accuracy in your cueball placement. Rodney Morris can get flippant with the last few balls in a rack, because he grooved his stroke years ago, but you still need to grind out every shot to help build yours.

And on the topic of stroke, I think that's where your greatest potential for improvement lies at this point. Get your move down to where it is accurate and repeatable, and you will begin to take advantage of those solid analytics. Find some stroke drills - there are plenty out there.

Best of luck,
Aaron
 
poolhustler said:
Sorry also.... the music put me to sleep after the first rack.

Reminded me of that Thai Massage place I go too......:D
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I know. I'm gonna add better tracks manually for future videos. YouTube music choices were very limited. Still better to listening to what was coming out of the mouth of the guy in the next room.
 
I would say you are playing in the C to C+ range.

my suggestions would be:

1. work on getting better/closer position and as Danny says, get an angle for an angle

2. go to youtube and study the bejeezuz out of Shane's 10b break, Busty's 9b break, and Dechaine's mechanics on how he gets his power. A good and dependable break is paramount.

3. As was mentioned; don't get down on yourself over a bad shot or position. The ghost doesn't really give a shit but real opponents enjoy seeing this behavior. It's like fuel for them.

4. develop a consistent pre-shot routine.

you are shooting pretty straight most of the time.

You stated your goal is to become a b player. I'd say that's definitely within your grasp. :)

GL with your progress.

and, btw, I like your attitude in how you have responded to the constructive criticisms.

best,
brian kc
 
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dr_dave said:
The rating system on the 10-ball "playing the ghost" rating drill page is usually fairly accurate. It puts you at a C+.

Have you tried the BU Exams yet? If not, give them a try. They provide an accurate rating for a full range of pool skills (not just offensive 10-ball skills). If you do the exams, please post your scores (and videos, if available) along with your 10-ball scores and videos on the AZB BU thread, where other people have posted.

Good luck,
Dave
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I absolutely PROMISE to do the exams once I have a table at home, maybe only a year or two away at this point. I don't have a lot of time right now to get to the pool hall so I am just going to limit my speed test to the 10 ball drill, which is fine for now. I'm getting a lot of good feedback.

Here's a 3D model of what I want my room to look like...
 

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Haven't watched the vid - blocked at work - but you've received some great comments already.

This would be a cool thing to do for a lot of us - take a video playing ghost 9 or 10 ball and submit for a peer review and "rating". Have to take some comments with a grain of salt, but overall can be very informative.

I know David Sapolis (Blackjack) and caught up with him recently, he was nice enough to discuss some questions I had and analyze some videos I sent him, just the few things he saw were right on point and great. Nice to get comments from legitimate instructors like him, but this type of peer review in the general forum can yield some good and accurate advice as well.

Good luck with your game!
Scott
 
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