Thank you, Mr.J.
My google-fu isn't totally in the toilet after all.
Maybe it's time to drag out the trusty Dremel.
pete
ref marks the ball with his hand at womens us open semi final
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Thank you, Mr.J.
My google-fu isn't totally in the toilet after all.
Maybe it's time to drag out the trusty Dremel.
pete
You shouldn't be allowed to clean balls mid-rack.... that's bs
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this whole ball cleaning deal as everyone can guess its a way to call a timeout maybe put someone off there game or give more time to think of a shot it will by no means change the play of the shot. it just like when they are picking stuff off the tabe when there is nothing there just my 2 cents
It can be done the way described, but it's a risky practice. I almost always carry a ball marker and if not I like to use two pieces of chalk, one on each side of the ball. If done carefully the ball can be removed and replaced without a problem. Experience helps though! :smile:
How about if you and I are gambling for $5000 and I miss the 8ball because of a skid and the balls run around the table to setup a similar cut. You already have the advantage knowing the balls are clinging as to add outside or whatever. So, now you get the advantage of a buff-job too? Why not polish the OB after every shot??? It's stupid. It should done in between racks if at all. Players should adjust based on the conditions. Balls should really be buffed in between matches and the players play the hand they're dealt until the next round.
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I agree with you sir. Play the game out and then clean your balls!!!!
JC
Coos Cues
The only part of the ball that needs to be clean is the spot about the size of a pencil eraser where the cue ball will strike it. Most ball cleaning requests I've seen are just a ruse to take another time out in a match with a shot clock anyway.
JC
Snooker, the billiard game that has produced the most millionaires,
allows the balls to be cleaned mid-game...but only by the referee.
Dirty contact points DO produce skids (known as 'kicks' in snooker)
So if pool grows up, it will become common practice.
However, snooker refs are no pushovers and won't go for a player making
a 'move'.....
https://www.google.com/url?url=http...leaned&usg=AFQjCNH2WJNEb12CY5ddCMrdRF3Fmu1jXg
I'd have them polish every ball I'm about to shoot at, every time. Just because they do it, doesn't mean it's logical or correct. If the player thinks a shot MIGHT skid, make the adjustment. Part of pool is playing balls that MIGHT be a little dirty. Buffing mid-game takes a lot out of the game and makes the game more boring to watch.
I don't think you can 'adjust' for a skid, Spidey.
..and the time it takes to clean the ball is very little....the refs have the
ball marker, and they use their glove for the cleaning.
..and the players are not allowed to abuse this cleaning privilege....
...that's what that video showed
Well, that's almost 3 pages wasted on a discussion of whether or not someone can have the cueball cleaned during a rack. It only takes a couple shots with a freshly chalked cue to leave a mess on the cueball. Which can possibly lead to a skid which could possibly cost someone the match or tournament. Does it really matter? Does it bother you that much that a professional wants to eliminate another chance to give up the table? I'm sure that minute or so is really cutting into our hectic schedules.
I wonder why it's ok to polish balls during rotation games and if you do the same in 14.1 it's heresy and people want to put an asterick besides any run where balls are cleaned mid-run?
To me, there's no difference - I think 14.1 got it right.
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To me, there's no difference - I think 14.1 got it right.
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How the heck do you predict a skid will absolutely happen and adjust for it? If there is a big chalk mark on the cue ball (which i notice happens even more often with the sticky Kamui chalk), how can you predict that after the cue ball rolls to the object ball that they will contact each other right on that chalk mark and cause a skid? You can't adjust for something that may or may not happen based on chance. You see residual chalk on the cue ball and it has a chance to cause a skid so you ask for it to be cleaned. If the ref doesn't see any chalk mark and if there is a shot clock, it should be a foul or a 10 second penalty or something.
Adjustment = spin key balls in
Pros adjust for possible skids all the time.. ask Mike Sigel... he consciously adjusts for possible skids on nearly every cut shot.
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In golf, why doesn't the PGA Tour allow you to flatten spike marks on your putting line?
Why can't Tiger call a grounds keeper and have them roll the green before a title-winning putt?
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Why can't Tiger call a grounds keeper and have them roll the green before a title-winning putt?
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Because people would flatten a path to the hole and gain an advantage by doing so.
Sidenote:
I never played on sand greens but an old timer told me that people used to walk up to the hole as if to look at something while dragging their putters to make a path for their balls to follow to the hole.
Ken
Well, no. You may want to read the rules.