Reyes, Bustamante, Alcano, Gomez & Orcullo will NOT play World 10-ball Championship?

Roy Steffensen

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Reyes, Bustamante, Alcano, Gomez & Orcullo will NOT play World 10-ball Championship?

Based on the article on the mainpage of AZbilliards, Efren says that he and players in the BMPAP-organization will NOT attend ANY tournament that are organized by BSCP.

Raya Sports and BSCP has the contract of the World 10-ball Championship in Manila, for the next 5 years...

Will this mean that Efren Reyes, Dennis Orcullo, Fransisco Bustamante, Roberto Gomez, Ronato Alcano, Jharome Pena +++ will not play the 400 000 $ World Championship played in Manila???

Quote from Efren:
"We billiards players belonging to the Billiards Managers Professional Players Association of the Philippines (BMP) are firm and unanimous in our stand not to join in any competition organized by the BSCP because the BSCP leadership is incompetent and bent only on serving their self-interests at our expense," stated Reyes, more popularly known as "The Magician".


Bandido: Can you tell us more about this issue?

I, and a lot more, are considering going to Philippines in October for this tournament, just to watch them play. I will not go there if Efren, Django and Gomez are not participating...
 
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JoeyInCali said:
Which means that world 10-ball might be dead before it started.
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... and it also means that they understand that the players can have a tournament without the BSCP, but the BSCP cannot have a tournament without the players.

:eek:

Somebody understands where the power exists and they are not afraid to take a stance... American players should ask themselves, "What Would Efren Do?" ... lol
 
It is hard to believe that (IMHO) the state of pool which was practically in the gutter, has taken a significant turn for the worse in the last week.

Of course things are just great in Korea-Terrific!- Aint that?
 
I agree with BlackJack.

If it really is as bad as Efren says in the article, and I believe Efren, this is the best thing the players can do.

I believe this is the start of something great. This is giving the power to the PLAYERS!!!
 
Blackjack said:
... American players should ask themselves, "What Would Efren Do?" ... lol
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And this time, it isn't: cut the paint of the ball and kill whitey off the rail
LolLol
 
What is happening in the pool world right now?

In the Philippines, WPA is siding with BSCP, and grants them WC in 10 ball for 5 years. The majority of the pro players are organized within BMPAP and will have no part of what they call the corrupt regime of BSCP.

In USA, WPA is siding with BCA, an organisation which from my understanding has little to do with the pro-players, the players who are organized in anything in US, are from my understanding with UPA.

It would be very interesting to see a press release or comment from WPA's president Ian Anderson or other officials in this organisation. After all, what would WPA be without players and fans? Currently it seems like they dont care about theirstakeholders. WPA seems like an organisation which is not very transparent, but I feel they own the pool world an explanation regarding their current actions.

It is also very weird that the place for this years WC in 9ball have not been announced yet. Its obviously a political / financial issue here, and does it have anything to do with the above? Already in February I heard from an official in EPBF, the European organisation, that Indonesia should host the World Championship in 9ball. Something has obviously changed.

Ian Anderson, care to fill us in? After all, what would WPA be without us?
 
Efren told me in Arizona that he and Fransisco Bustamante would have to play in the qualifiers to make it into the tournament. He also said that he would of had to play in a qualifier to play in the World 8 Ball championships that just happened. I do not see where a World Champion and past winner of the tournament should have to play in a qualifier to make it into any tournament. We talked about what was going on with pool in the Philippines and he was upset about it. Well it looks like the US is not the only place having problems. I have seen the same problems happen with snowboarding in the early days.

Steve
 
and if bscp will organize the qualifier... the rules might change in the MIDDLE of the tournament again hahahahaha then will show you the door if you complained :D
 
vin said:
and if bscp will organize the qualifier... the rules might change in the MIDDLE of the tournament again hahahahaha then will show you the door if you complained :D
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EXACTLY!:eek: :mad:
 
Roy Steffensen said:
Based on the article on the mainpage of AZbilliards, Efren says that he and players in the BMPAP-organization will NOT attend ANY tournament that are organized by BSCP.

Raya Sports and BSCP has the contract of the World 10-ball Championship in Manila, for the next 5 years...

Will this mean that Efren Reyes, Dennis Orcullo, Fransisco Bustamante, Roberto Gomez, Ronato Alcano, Jharome Pena +++ will not play the 400 000 $ World Championship played in Manila???

Quote from Efren:
"We billiards players belonging to the Billiards Managers Professional Players Association of the Philippines (BMP) are firm and unanimous in our stand not to join in any competition organized by the BSCP because the BSCP leadership is incompetent and bent only on serving their self-interests at our expense," stated Reyes, more popularly known as "The Magician".


Bandido: Can you tell us more about this issue?

I, and a lot more, are considering going to Philippines in October for this tournament, just to watch them play. I will not go there if Efren, Django and Gomez are not participating...
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First of you have to understand that there shoudn't anymore be a conflict. I have explained why so many times in my previous threads but I'll do it once more for clarity.

The BSCP is an NSA(National Sport Assoc) under the PSC and POC and affiliated with the APBU(Asian Pocket Billiards Union) who is a continental affiliate of the WPA which is the Sport's(Pool/Billiard) authority under the IOC.

The above organizations have NO jurisdiction over the BMPAP and as far as we're concerned have no jurisdiction over PROFESSIONAL POOL. WPA can't even successfully lobby POOLS inclusion in the OLYMPICS so how can OUR sport be under their jurisdiction.

We have started te BMPAP to straighten out, take claim, make concrete on how PROFESSIONAL POOL is to be viewed and treated. We consider IOC and all branches below it as AMATEUR SPORT regulating organizations and with regards to pool in relation to their ultimate event, the OLYMPICS, a failure.

PROFESSIONAL POOL should and WILL have a Wordwide Organization to guide it and work on helping it grow. We in the BMPAP leadership, the players and die-hard followers-turned-managers, started this movement to
take responsibility for the path we take.

The above, PLAYERS and MANAGERS, are the heart and soul of PROFESSIONAL POOL and these businessmen/so called pool sport leaders under the IOC organizational structure fail to see that.
 
Not to worry ROY! We have some events coming for the rest of 2008 and Perry and I are working on our 2009 Calendar of Events that I need to submit to our Marketing Arm this coming Monday(5/12). We still have some events coming this year and the way we've been putting events together, QC Open and the current Sen. Villar Cup-idea to realization in 2-3 weeks time, there should be more to come this year.
 
The BSCP is an NSA(National Sport Assoc) under the PSC and POC and affiliated with the APBU(Asian Pocket Billiards Union) who is a continental affiliate of the WPA which is the Sport's(Pool/Billiard) authority under the IOC.




Edwin,

That's a lot of letters to digest there. :)
But thanks for your reply.
 
jay helfert said:
The BSCP is an NSA(National Sport Assoc) under the PSC and POC and affiliated with the APBU(Asian Pocket Billiards Union) who is a continental affiliate of the WPA which is the Sport's(Pool/Billiard) authority under the IOC.




Edwin,

That's a lot of letters to digest there. :)
But thanks for your reply.
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And what a tangled web it makes! We prefer to just have 2. BMPAP and run it following these 4 letters. KISS
 
jay helfert said:
The BSCP is an NSA(National Sport Assoc) under the PSC and POC and affiliated with the APBU(Asian Pocket Billiards Union) who is a continental affiliate of the WPA which is the Sport's(Pool/Billiard) authority under the IOC.




Edwin,

That's a lot of letters to digest there. :)
But thanks for your reply.
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In short Jay, BSCP's business is in the grassroots level (amateur), while the pro level is for the
BMPAP. If ever the BSCP decide to stage a tournament that offers 10,000 pesos or above,
they have to get a permit from the Games and Amusement Board (GAB), who handles all
pro sports in the Philippines.

They (BSCP) shouldn't be meddling in pro tournaments in the first place, because they were
created by the gov't to sustain the sport of pool by tapping from the grassroots, but since
we all know there's no money in there, they decided to "broaden" their powers by going
after world tournaments were sponsorships will surely be pouring in. Yen Macabenta's Raya
Sports has made a killing from this. The Philippine gov't is using the coffers to make any pool
event to be a huge success and hasn't left any stone unturned yet. Raya Sports doesn't even
have to cough up anything for using the facilities from the gov't station (channel 4), talk
about a double kill.
 
I would love to know where to go for vacation, Manila, Jakarta, Macau? And in case those contradictions are not solved I'm sad to say I'd retain from booking tickets to Philippines as you never know - now pro players could achieve agreement with BSCP and in October the flames can be on again. And though I love Philippines it would be sad to be there for a tournament without local stars.
 
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