Reyes Vs Parica

Hail Mary Shot

Hail Mary Shot

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Most of us know that Parica got Reyes' number when it comes to 9-ball and rotation. Reyes might need some weight in these games inorder to win a lot against Parica. Playing Parica even won't work fairly enough. I guess Parica is Reyes' bogeyman when it comes to these games.

However, I'm wondering how these two players would match up in a game of 8-ball, one-pocket and straight pool. games which Reyes have a much stronger showing,has the upperhand or has shown dominance. I'm not setting aside the fact that Parica plays great 1P and was also a champ in some 1P tourneys including the DCC. Can Parica match up with Reyes in these games or does he needs weight?

I nullified 3C and balkline since Parica doesn't have a taste for those and his skills for those games are quite an enigma.
 
Hail Mary Shot said:
Most of us know that Parica got Reyes' number when it comes to 9-ball and rotation. Reyes might need some weight in these games inorder to win a lot against Parica. Playing Parica even won't work fairly enough. I guess Parica is Reyes' bogeyman when it comes to these games.

However, I'm wondering how these two players would match up in a game of 8-ball, one-pocket and straight pool. games which Reyes have a much stronger showing,has the upperhand or has shown dominance. I'm not setting aside the fact that Parica plays great 1P and was also a champ in some 1P tourneys including the DCC. Can Parica match up with Reyes in these games or does he needs weight?

I nullified 3C and balkline since Parica doesn't have a taste for those and his skills for those games are quite an enigma.
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Where did you get that information.

Reyes needs weight from God alone in ANY game.
 
I won't comment on the rest of your post, but I have the '07 Derby City one pocket match between Reyes and Parica. Efren won 24 to -1. Parica only got two shots at his pocket in the entire match, both difficult banks. It is my understanding that everybody gets weight from Efren in one pocket.

Speaking of 8 ball, Efren won the IPT twice when the big bucks were on the line. I don't remember Parica doing much in those tournaments.
 
belmicah said:
Where did you get that information.

Reyes needs weight from God alone in ANY game.
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Reyes won't be considered as the number #2 pool player from the Philippines if he ain't ! otherwise, that would be heresy ! :D

now back to my question, who would you think would dominate in 8-ball, straight pool and 1Pocket? games which these two matched-up rarely or haven't yet played against each other.
 
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Hail Mary Shot said:
Most of us know that Parica got Reyes' number when it comes to 9-ball and rotation. Reyes might need some weight in these games inorder to win a lot against Parica. Playing Parica even won't work fairly enough. I guess Parica is Reyes' bogeyman when it comes to these games.

However, I'm wondering how these two players would match up in a game of 8-ball, one-pocket and straight pool. games which Reyes have a much stronger showing,has the upperhand or has shown dominance. I'm not setting aside the fact that Parica plays great 1P and was also a champ in some 1P tourneys including the DCC. Can Parica match up with Reyes in these games or does he needs weight?

I nullified 3C and balkline since Parica doesn't have a taste for those and his skills for those games are quite an enigma.
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Efren has won the World 8-Ball at the Riviera Hotel 3 times. How many has Parica won?
Efren won the US Open in 94' and went on to get to the finals 3 more times. The last time he lost to Strickland but beat Parica in the semi-finals to get there.
Parica might have Busta and Efren's numbers when they are in the finals but how many times have they met in the finals of a major tournament ?
How good is Efren's one hole game? One very good player after beating Parica, getting two balls from Parica, handily asked for one more ball against Efren. WHY?
 
Hail Mary Shot said:
Reyes won't be considered as the number #2 pool player from the Philippines if he ain't ! otherwise, that would be heresy ! :D

now back to my question, who would you think would dominate in 8-ball, straight pool and 1Pocket? games which these two matched-up rarely or haven't yet played against each other.
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The only time I heard of Reyes being number two in the Philippines was in John Grissims book, "Billiards." I believe the book was published in 1979!!
 
I think Reyes beats him easily in Rotation, 8 Ball, 14.1 and especially 1 pocket. Parica has the edge in 9 ball banks. Closest in 9 ball but the edge still goes to Reyes.
I think this is how it is if they play today as well as in their primes.
 
Terry Ardeno said:
I think Reyes beats him easily in Rotation, 8 Ball, 14.1 and especially 1 pocket. Parica has the edge in 9 ball banks. Closest in 9 ball but the edge still goes to Reyes.
I think this is how it is if they play today as well as in their primes.
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Agreed! One thing that Parica has over the other players is that he is not afraid of Efren. Many times it seems that players don't always play their best against him. Parica seems to truely believe that he plays better then Efren.
 
rankings smankings,if efren put 100% into any match with anyone including god,he would whoop anyone.oh,i'm sorry he IS god.:D ;)
 
I saw Parica I think about a year and a half ago and he told a few of us around the table that he played close with Reyes but the only way he could beat him in 9-ball was on tight tables... He might have been pumping his own ego a little but he said he was the better tight table player. Also, what about playing games on a snooker table? Isn't Parica a great insurance and golf player?
 
ccshrimper said:
I saw Parica I think about a year and a half ago and he told a few of us around the table that he played close with Reyes but the only way he could beat him in 9-ball was on tight tables... He might have been pumping his own ego a little but he said he was the better tight table player. Also, what about playing games on a snooker table? Isn't Parica a great insurance and golf player?
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Reyes must be getting better, because Jose told me a few years back that he (Jose) was indeed the best player because he has the straightest stroke. He didn't specify a game or a table, but said he always won gambling, and I think he meant what he said. At that time he had himself, Efren, Bustamante and Antonio Lining at the top, with Lining giving the 6-ball to Santos Sambajon. I had just beaten Lining and Jose volunteered these opinions in case I didn't realize what I had done, but I had seen Antonio play before...

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If they raced to 200 games in 9 ball and one-pocket Efren would probably win both but the 9 ball might be a toss up. I would put it at Efren 200, Parica 185 in 9 ball. Efren 200, Parica 160 in one-pocket. So even though Efren would probably win it would not be a blow out in either game. If they were on tight pockets as Parica suggested it may be Parica 200, Efren 195 in 9 ball and Efren would probably still win the one-pocket but it would be closer.

When they met in the finals of a 9 ball event at Hollywood Billiards, about 2 years ago, I was the only one taking bets on Parica and he drilled Efren I believe 11-2 and that was on tight pockets.
 
are you out of your mind

i have been noticing some of your post hail mary,,,you don't give them a good thought before you post...

since when parica has the edge on reyes on any game of pool,,,can you show any evidence such as tournaments or any majors parica won,,

i sat down with parica before,,i really like him in person,,probobly better than efren,,but he doesn't stop from talking about how better he is than reyes,,,what is he to show for,,,nothing- no majors,,,

also stop making generalization about filipinos not paying debt,,,grow -up and wise-up..

you should know by now AZers are not novice or stupid people...
 
I don't think Parica is a favorite to win anything but maybe banks against Efren nowadays, and I'm probably wrong about that. Efren has had some good showings in the bank division of the DCC.

Parica in his day was phenomenal, especially in $$ games, but Efren has simply amassed so many more major titles than Jose at this point that there's no question who the more accomplished player is.

Overall, does anyone think Efren isn't as good as any other player in history? Mosconi, Worst, Lassiter all had fantastic talent and could play a number of games well (Even 3-C for Mosconi and Worst) but Efren spots the world two balls in one pocket and nobody can beat him. They showed him how to play 14.1 and he started running 140's right off the bat. His titles in 8-ball and 9-ball speak for themselves. Once Efren got over his problem of finishing off tournements (he actually didn't win a whole ton in the 90's even when he had some good chances), he became an absolute monster.
 
wayne said:
If they raced to 200 games in 9 ball and one-pocket Efren would probably win both but the 9 ball might be a toss up. I would put it at Efren 200, Parica 185 in 9 ball. Efren 200, Parica 160 in one-pocket. So even though Efren would probably win it would not be a blow out in either game. If they were on tight pockets as Parica suggested it may be Parica 200, Efren 195 in 9 ball and Efren would probably still win the one-pocket but it would be closer.

When they met in the finals of a 9 ball event at Hollywood Billiards, about 2 years ago, I was the only one taking bets on Parica and he drilled Efren I believe 11-2 and that was on tight pockets.
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I'd give 7:5 on the money that Jose couldn't reach 120 in One Pocket if they were to play even a race to 200.

Efren is just in a whole 'nuther world when it comes to One Pocket right now. That might change in a year or so, who knows? But for right now, I doubt anyone can do much better than a .333 win percentage against Efren in One Pocket.

Russ
 
Russ Chewning said:
I'd give 7:5 on the money that Jose couldn't reach 120 in One Pocket if they were to play even a race to 200.

Efren is just in a whole 'nuther world when it comes to One Pocket right now. That might change in a year or so, who knows? But for right now, I doubt anyone can do much better than a .333 win percentage against Efren in One Pocket.

Russ
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You obviously haven't played them if you think Efren is that much better. I have played both and they are both champions who can get out from anywhere. Efren is not invincible in one-pocket and if Parica hits a stroke he can still beat Efren. Unfortunately, no action match-up of them will probably ever take place.
One thing is definite, I am way ahead betting on Parica over Efren (playing even) and that is a fact.
 
Stop being an Onion-skinned ! think boy before you react !

arian dacongan said:
i have been noticing some of your post hail mary,,,you don't give them a good thought before you post...

since when parica has the edge on reyes on any game of pool,,,can you show any evidence such as tournaments or any majors parica won,,

i sat down with parica before,,i really like him in person,,probably better than efren,,but he doesn't stop from talking about how better he is than reyes,,,what is he to show for,,,nothing- no majors,,,

also stop making generalization about filipinos not paying debt,,,grow -up and wise-up..

you should know by now AZers are not novice or stupid people...
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Wow, you really caught me there. you just gave me some very good reasons to completely disagree with you.

You have been saying that you can't seem to help but notice my posts and saying that I don't put a good thought before I post? now, did you answer the question about a supposed head to head matchup between those two players in games played that I mentioned? who is the one who didn't answer the question and just simply lambast away because this person has some form of a crush on me and doesn't think clearly ?

You said you sat down with Parica yet you are not aware of any of his major tournament wins? that is just unbelievable and quite embarrassing on your part to say the least. since you have an internet, the least you could do is search it using Google. Maybe you'll have some luck finding some in wikipedia. lol

Oh and by the way, I guess you simply reacted prematurely without giving yourself a thought regarding my post about the "BAD SIDE", may I repeat "BAD SIDE" of the Filipinos. since you're having some problems with English comprehension, again "BAD SIDE". I believe you should be the one who should be putting more thoughts on what you say than reacting unnecessarily. you shouldn't react on things which aren't false but rather accept them as a challenge. don't make this personal coz it's not.

before you tell somebody to wise up, better know who you are talking to and look yourself in the mirror. you just might be the opposite of who you are sayin you are suppose to be "a genius". pag-isipan mo yan PARE !

P.S. you're the only poster in this thread who didn't give a sensible or logical answer. rather a personal reaction instead. go figure.
 
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wayne said:
If they raced to 200 games in 9 ball and one-pocket Efren would probably win both but the 9 ball might be a toss up. I would put it at Efren 200, Parica 185 in 9 ball. Efren 200, Parica 160 in one-pocket. So even though Efren would probably win it would not be a blow out in either game. If they were on tight pockets as Parica suggested it may be Parica 200, Efren 195 in 9 ball and Efren would probably still win the one-pocket but it would be closer.

When they met in the finals of a 9 ball event at Hollywood Billiards, about 2 years ago, I was the only one taking bets on Parica and he drilled Efren I believe 11-2 and that was on tight pockets.
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I believe it was 13-5. But Efren had to wait 2 hours for the final. He and Alex went across the street and ate a heavy Thai dinner. When Effy came back, he still had to wait so he drank a few brandy.
 
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