Rip-off is official..beware Yuri_b17 and Tim_hong

nick serdula said:
Alwayy accept Western Union as payment from non U.S. parties. They have to buy them with cash. There is no way for a charge back. It only cost them 10%. You can always offer to pay half.
After the money orders are deposited and cleared to your account ship.
Paypal never!
Good Luck Mr Joe,
Nick :)
Unfortunately you are talking from a sellers point of view. A buyer could just as easily get screwed. Sending payment and not get a cue.

I guess the best way right now is still escrow. Maybe AZ can start an official one or appoint an official one for use here.
 
Hey guys,
Sorry I was out of town for the weekend or else I would have contributed to the thread more.
Bama PM so we can talk further about some options we have.
Thanks for all the support and response to this scam artist out there taking advantage of good people.
 
MasterClass said:
Unfortunately you are talking from a sellers point of view. A buyer could just as easily get screwed. Sending payment and not get a cue.
I guess the best way right now is still escrow. Maybe AZ can start an official one or appoint an official one for use here.

Only if they fail to exercise due diligence.
 
Yuri sent me an email yesterday saying that he will take pictures of all the packages coming to him and will send them all back.

This is a right step in helping his name.
 
Yuri,
If you send me back my cue I will give you a cash bonus for doing so. I am really strapped for cash considering that I recently got married August 2nd and need all the money I have to survive. I appriciate all the support from all the AZers out there in helping with this matter.
Michael-Hoang,
can you verify this is Yuri's address?

YURI BAYANIN
Flat H 16 Floor Block 1 Site 9
Whampoa Garden
Hung Hom, Kowloon
Hong Kong

This is were I sent the cue to.
 
patrickjuhlin said:
Yuri,
If you send me back my cue I will give you a cash bonus for doing so. I am really strapped for cash considering that I recently got married August 2nd and need all the money I have to survive. I appriciate all the support from all the AZers out there in helping with this matter.
Michael-Hoang,
can you verify this is Yuri's address?

YURI BAYANIN
Flat H 16 Floor Block 1 Site 9
Whampoa Garden
Hung Hom, Kowloon
Hong Kong

This is were I sent the cue to.


I can confirm that this is the same address I shipped my Meucci HOF-3 cue to.

Joe
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krbsailing said:
Hey Joe,

Perhaps we could get the powers that be to make a sticky that woud list these types of transactions to make it easy for someone to discern who or, not to do business with overseas!?

I've done buisness with a handful of folks in Singapore and Taiwan plus Europe too.....but, it is not like doing business here in the states for sure.

Sorry Joe! You are one of the (if not the BEST) truly, exceptional Sellers here on AZ -- so I really hate to see this happen to you or, actually anyone else for that matter!

Best to you and yours,

Ken :sorry:


Hello Ken,

Can you please clarify the statement "I've done buisness with a handful of folks in Singapore and Taiwan plus Europe too....but, it is not like doing business here in the states for sure". As far as i can remember the majority of scams are taking place in the states. Forgive me if i am wrong but this kind of statements offend peoples around the globe apart from states. Thank you for listening and i apologise to Joe for using his thread to state this. Regards. Costas


ps: i am sorry Joe to hear this. i guess we have to live with the fear that someday will happen to us as well. it is not the first nor the last incident in here.
 
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That is Yuri's address.

As far as I know per his emails, he will try to do what he can to send back whatever he can.

We'll know more in a couple of days as Monday is the holiday in some countries in Asia because of the Full Moon Festival.


patrickjuhlin said:
Yuri,
If you send me back my cue I will give you a cash bonus for doing so. I am really strapped for cash considering that I recently got married August 2nd and need all the money I have to survive. I appriciate all the support from all the AZers out there in helping with this matter.
Michael-Hoang,
can you verify this is Yuri's address?

YURI BAYANIN
Flat H 16 Floor Block 1 Site 9
Whampoa Garden
Hung Hom, Kowloon
Hong Kong

This is were I sent the cue to.
 
i think everyone here understands what he meant.............. YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WHEN DOING BUSINESS OVERSEAS! and i also believe from what ive seen and heard most of the scams are coming from abroad!!!!

they know its way too hard to get anything done overseas to recover your cue, TWO DIFFERENT LEGAL SYSTEMS PRETTTY MUCH SAYS IT!!!!!!!!!


HECK ITS HARD ENOUGH TO GET A FUGUTIVE BACK IN THE STATES, IM SURE UIT JUST ISNT CUES THEY ARE AFTER, PROBABLY OTHER ITEMS TOO THAT ARE COLLECTABLE!!!
 
kgeorgia said:
Can you please clarify the statement "I've done buisness with a handful of folks in Singapore and Taiwan plus Europe too....but, it is not like doing business here in the states for sure". As far as i can remember the majority of scams are taking place in the states. Forgive me if i am wrong but this kind of statements offend peoples around the globe apart from states. Thank you for listening and i apologise to Joe for using his thread to state this. Regards. Costas

Costas,

No need to be alarmed about the statement. What Ken is referring to is the difficulty in tracking and bringing to justice those who are in different parts of the world. Here, we have the local police at both locations, the State police, and the Federal police. Plus, if the post office was used, then we have the postal inspectors, also. Plus, here, we can simply drive up to their door and confront them, if need be.

Recovery of the stolen item or money is extremely difficult when dealing with other countries. Many of their laws are different than ours, plus often times, the amounts of money are just not enough for their police to bother with. Even getting them the evidence and depositions, etc is extremely difficult, and facing the thief in their home country would be expensive.

We are very fortunate in our little AZB community to have friends who are willing to go to the effort to try and make a difference. I thanks them.

Joe
 
Bamacues said:
Costas,

No need to be alarmed about the statement. What Ken is referring to is the difficulty in tracking and bringing to justice those who are in different parts of the world. Here, we have the local police at both locations, the State police, and the Federal police. Plus, if the post office was used, then we have the postal inspectors, also. Plus, here, we can simply drive up to their door and confront them, if need be.

Recovery of the stolen item or money is extremely difficult when dealing with other countries. Many of their laws are different than ours, plus often times, the amounts of money are just not enough for their police to bother with. Even getting them the evidence and depositions, etc is extremely difficult, and facing the thief in their home country would be expensive.

We are very fortunate in our little AZB community to have friends who are willing to go to the effort to try and make a difference. I thanks them.

Joe


Got it Joe and thank you for the reply.
 
Yuri,
If you are reading this please help in sending back my Jacoby D1 Purpleheart cue. Once I recieve it in the mail I will refund your shipping costs plus add a bonus in there. I will personally vouch for your name here on AZ that you are a very reputable person.
 
WilleeCue said:
I got burned over 30 days after getting the PayPal notice that the money was in my account. It was reversed and taken out after a claim was filed.
Live and learn ... take the money out as soon as it gets into your account.
DO NOT LEAVE MONEY SETTING IN A PAYPAL ACCOUNT.
Cant they pull money form your linked checking account also? I seem to remember someone having an issue like that around a year ago.
 
Chris Byrne said:
Cant they pull money form your linked checking account also? I seem to remember someone having an issue like that around a year ago.

Yes, paypal can take the cash from you bank account if your paypal is empy. They can also take it from your back up source credit cards also.

But its also easy to fix that problem with a "Seperate" bank account specifically for your paypal monies. This way after you transfer it out of your paypal account to your "paypal specific" bank account, you can then transfer it from that bank account to your main bank account.
 
or just set up your back of funding source as your debit/credit card from the same account!@!! big circle and they cant get anything!!!!
jmho! works for me in the past!
 
Well, looks like AZB should sponsor a trip to Hong Kong.

I hear that they have good food and many things to do, and hey, if we're in the neighborhood.. Wink Wink .
 
Let's bump this up. From my last conversation with Yuri, he promised to do the right thing. Let's wait and see.
 
nwtflogan said:
or just set up your back of funding source as your debit/credit card from the same account!@!! big circle and they cant get anything!!!!
jmho! works for me in the past!
That's the paypal setup I have. I also have a paypal debit card that I can withdraw money from instantly.
 
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