Robin Williams

Sometimes I really don't understand about this "Depression" as a sickness. I think if you are depressed it is your own fault. A person is depressed but keep on drinking and taking drugs and then kill himself? I love RW since I was a kid, but being depressed when you hold a high status and millions of $$$ and numerous friends? I think people living in slum areas of India, Manila, Africa and other 3rd world countries with no food should be more depressed. If only RW traveled to these areas and lived with them and see their smile even in he most difficult times he will understand more about preserving life.
I am very sadden that RW end comes to this. The most versatile actor in Hollywood.

hands down the stupidest post I have ever read on AZB. If depression was a choice, no one would be depressed.
 
isn't it also typical of depression to self-medicate?

Here's how I explain it; 'normal' people start their day in a good mood, I called that at zero. If they drink three beers, it puts them at +3. I start my day at -3 and it takes three beers to put me at zero. If three beers makes me feel good, six beers will make me feel better, 12 beers...heck I'm fantastic....18 and I'm jolly Ol' St Nick... I try to rationalize it but it is counterproductive. Soon, the three beers don't get me to zero. It may take the six..then 12 then it doesn't help at all and I feel like a bigger POS than when I started.

I gave all that up several years ago and am now under my Dr's meds and doing ok. Not good or great, but ok.
 
touché -

isn't it also typical of depression to self-medicate? (like bi-polar people do) aside from the obvious 70's drug standards, it would explain his addiction(s). i'm wondering if that rehab @ MN put him on some new drug - that had side effects....

i'm waiting for the news report @ 1pmEST from the coroner.

Yes indeed self medicating is connected to depression and quite common with alcohol and drugs or both. Oddly so is many other forms of behavior. Shopping excessively is one. The person in depression is attempting to do whatever they can to find happiness and will turn to anything from their happier times in an attempt to be happy again. It is so utterly devastating for loved ones to watch and deal with that many times they themselves need professional help to understand the situation. Glad to see so many AZ members take a positive stance on this issue it shows how many have been affected by and recognize this disease.
 
Here's how I explain it; 'normal' people start their day in a good mood, I called that at zero. If they drink three beers, it puts them at +3. I start my day at -3 and it takes three beers to put me at zero. If three beers makes me feel good, six beers will make me feel better, 12 beers...heck I'm fantastic....18 and I'm jolly Ol' St Nick... I try to rationalize it but it is counterproductive. Soon, the three beers don't get me to zero. It may take the six..then 12 then it doesn't help at all and I feel like a bigger POS than when I started.

I gave all that up several years ago and am now under my Dr's meds and doing ok. Not good or great, but ok.

And, sometimes ok is good enough;)
 
Sometimes I really don't understand about this "Depression" as a sickness. ..remainder clipped..



Many of us share that misunderstanding....nothing wrong with that..the rest could have been left off.

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RIP Robin Williams...like many before you...always 'on' as an amazing humorist to aid in coping with darkness within.

I hope you have found everlasting peace and perhaps no longer feel the need to constantly entertain.

Having said that...loved your work and frenetic energy and lightning speed juxtapositional humor...couldn't follow it all..but was very cool.
 
Sad he will be missed my favorite Comedian. He had a skit about viagra and he used the anology of shooting pool with a rope LOL:D
 
Here's how I explain it; 'normal' people start their day in a good mood, I called that at zero. If they drink three beers, it puts them at +3. I start my day at -3 and it takes three beers to put me at zero. If three beers makes me feel good, six beers will make me feel better, 12 beers...heck I'm fantastic....18 and I'm jolly Ol' St Nick... I try to rationalize it but it is counterproductive. Soon, the three beers don't get me to zero. It may take the six..then 12 then it doesn't help at all and I feel like a bigger POS than when I started.

I gave all that up several years ago and am now under my Dr's meds and doing ok. Not good or great, but ok.


Mads props to you and the other members on this thread for your honesty. I've battled depression also for years and have had more success the last few.

I hope your continued treatment brings you the balance your looking for.

The only ray of light on this dark day is that more people may be aware now of the potential impact of this illness and the help that is available.
 
Clowns wear a face that's painted intentionally on them so they appear to be happy or sad.

Robin used his Gift of making people laugh to hide his own feelings.

It works sometimes. Robin was just better at hiding it.

Robin often abandoned scripted words, starting with Mork and Mindy to ad lib his own feelings and jokes in not only Mork and Mindy but many other situations that included Movies.

Heck, the adlibed lines were better than what the Script Writers had so they just left it in, unedited.

What a true talent he was. Not only could be be put in a situation to make you laugh, he could also make tears come to your eyes with his ability to do Drama as well.

That is the Sad part of Depression. Many times there are no warning signs.
If depression were a visible ache or pain, people on the outside could see it.

Most times, unless the person does seek help, Family members and close friends are the ones that are in the most shock.

As in, I had no idea, I would have never guessed.

RIP Patch Adams. I am sure that you are sitting under a tree with a group of Children around you, making them laugh.

If you feel depressed then un-depressed yourself by doing something or traveling or think if you really should be depressed. Depressed by what?

If only it was that easy Buddy. I would be fishing every day. Traveling you say. Try feeling like crap in the Mountains. I hope you realize that you can't run away from it.

I am glad that you aren't a Psychologist. I am amazed that you also didn't ad, "Theres Drugs for that".
 
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Sometimes I really don't understand about this "Depression" as a sickness. I think if you are depressed it is your own fault. A person is depressed but keep on drinking and taking drugs and then kill himself? I love RW since I was a kid, but being depressed when you hold a high status and millions of $$$ and numerous friends? I think people living in slum areas of India, Manila, Africa and other 3rd world countries with no food should be more depressed. If only RW traveled to these areas and lived with them and see their smile even in he most difficult times he will understand more about preserving life.
I am very sadden that RW end comes to this. The most versatile actor in Hollywood.

I get the not understanding the sickness part. But as someone who suffers from depression ( I am good now but will battle it the rest of my life) when you are at your darkest moment it matters not who you are, where you are, how much $$$ you have, so on and so on. I choose to have depression just like someone chooses to have cancer. Matter of fact there were many times when I was sick where I wished I had cancer. At least then I could have had the choice to be happy. See losing control of your brain is the one of the most frightening things you can encounter.

Like I said, I am very good now, but the first part to recovery was when I realized that I had a sickness and that I was not alone in my battle. Good therapy, the right medications, a fantastic doctor and most important a loving supportive family.

I know that if you took the time to research the disease a bit more you would change what you have written. I for one am not offended by your comments as I would have to allow them to offend me, and that my friend is a choice.

Happy Shooting,
Brian
 
Some other signs or symptoms I have witnessed are when someone is in the black hole and is completely beyond reach. They are so depressed that just going to the bathroom is a struggle, they are completely unable to function on any level. Then there is the complete opposite of that were a person will make every effort to be so busy that they believe they won't have the time to be depressed. I have also seen the medical side of treatments were the patient takes meds up to a therapeutic level for a period of time. If that does not work get off that medication and start the process all over again. This can go on for years and is really a matter of trial and error, just imagine how hopeless someone feels when they cannot find the correct concoction of meds to control their symptoms. Then there is the insurance companies to deal with. They have just about abandoned the issue to save themselves some bucks, BUT I won't get into that it's very nasty.....
 
Ouch !

You betcha this one hurts. I grew up with him on Mork & Mindy. Seen him in person Xevo
AT Devon Pa. ... was a once in a lifetime experience! In memory, I watched one of my favorite movies " Good Will Hunting, " in which be won an Oscar for best supporting actor . depression is a disease. :frown:
 
I wandered into Treasure Island in Vegas back in 1993 and he was playing craps with a bunch of people and he had the whole table rolling. Even the pit boss was laughing. The funniest thing was that he had a "How to play craps" book hanging out of his back pocket. I dont know if it was for show but we thought it was hilarious. Anyway, RIP The World According to Garp will always be my favorite.
 
watch at your own risk, but this is how i'll always remember him:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgutlT2X4gM

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Just watched that movie (TBC) on TV a few hours ago. It was on and I kind of decided yesterday that I'm going to try to watch one Robin Williams movie a day for the next week or so. It was really sad at the point in the movie when they were sitting there and Robin was talking about where he was going to be buried and how he was going to die.

I can't imagine anyone who will not miss his comedic genius.

I'm with you Pinky... he always seemed to enjoy doing the flaming bits in his stand-ups and several times in movies. He had a signature on it that was all his own.
 
That is not offensive. I suffer from depression when my mom died, but I remember I should not as she had lived a nice and healthy life. That is what I am talking about. If you feel depressed then un-depressed yourself by doing something or traveling or think if you really should be depressed. Depressed by what? A lot of people always say move on, but some don't want to, they want to feel depressed so what can we do? It's their own fault.

Wow... have you been living under a rock or something. We have known for decades about clinical depression and that so many people suffer from chemical imbalances that they have to battle their entire lives. There are so many degrees of depression but you seem to have simplified it nicely for us all in one neat little easy package.
I hate to come off like this but... Wow.
 
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Wow... have you been living under a rock or something. We have known for decades about clinical depression and so that many people suffer from chemical imbalances that they have to battle their entire lives. There are so many degrees of depression but you seem to have simplified it nicely for us all in one neat little easy package.
I hate to come off like this but... Wow.

I know. That stance you quoted is typical of the same type of folks who say, "I disapprove of [...insert controversial lifestyle here...], because I 'choose' not to be that way." Yeah, right.

I lost a brother at two years old (I was eight years old at the time), and I watched him die -- hit by a car, right in front of my eyes. I was depressed for many years, blaming myself, etc. It took OUTSIDE INFLUENCES to help pick me up by the bootstraps, and help me start to regain my inner self. I look back on those people with the utmost endearment. I indeed owe my path in life to those wonderful people.

-Sean
 
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