I would take a pool date with Jasmin Ouschan over anybody just because she plays straight pool so well. I haven't seen any of the other women play 14.1 so I can be swayed. I think Shanelle is very pretty, but I don't want to watch her play.
Sarah Rousey comments on the Women's Worlds
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I would take a pool date with Jasmin Ouschan over anybody just because she plays straight pool so well. I haven't seen any of the other women play 14.1 so I can be swayed. I think Shanelle is very pretty, but I don't want to watch her play.
I didn't liked Shanelle match! She is not that beautiful, the only things noticeable about her are in her t-shirt. As a player, c'mon :rotflmao1:
I want to see pool, that's why I am looking here not for naked girls.Soon they will have some chicks from Hooters coming LOL
Also - we all know sex sells - but in this situation Charlie isn't selling sex or even really sexy for that matter. What he is doing is making sure that "his" players get TV time. Doesn't anyone see any small tiny conflict of interest in the promoter also being the manager of a lot of women in the field?
I am no stranger to selling "sexy" - in 2006 we sponsored a wet t-shirt contest at the Beach Dance club in Vegas and then put the subsequent pics of hot chicks in Fury T-shirts in the magazines with the caption "Party with Fury".
In that context it was done to garner attention to the brand and took nothing away from the game. Maybe next time we should promote the Fury Cues "World Championships" and line up all the hot girls we can find and put them on TV as pros. The brand will gets lots of attention - the game's image will suffer.
One thing though is that the stands are packed. The Filipinos do enjoy pool and it's great to see the stands full. I am sure that it's free to get in like at the Amway Cup but it seems to me that there are even more people watching this at the venue.
Towards the end of the event they will finally get to see some WORLD CLASS pool.
I am no stranger to selling "sexy" - in 2006 we sponsored a wet t-shirt contest at the Beach Dance club in Vegas and then put the subsequent pics of hot chicks in Fury T-shirts in the magazines with the caption "Party with Fury".
In that context it was done to garner attention to the brand and took nothing away from the game. Maybe next time we should promote the Fury Cues "World Championships" and line up all the hot girls we can find and put them on TV as pros. The brand will gets lots of attention - the game's image will suffer.
One thing though is that the stands are packed. The Filipinos do enjoy pool and it's great to see the stands full. I am sure that it's free to get in like at the Amway Cup but it seems to me that there are even more people watching this at the venue.
Towards the end of the event they will finally get to see some WORLD CLASS pool.
funny, the Philippine 10 ball Open didn't get that much attention from the public considering they have better quality of playing field. The Filipinos know their pool and know when to watch and not.
I have to agree that the initial selection process of the IPT was arbitrary but the weaker players would get weeded out over time, if the tour was to continue. And anybody had a chance to qualify if they weren't initially selected. They just had to earn it. As far as I know, nobody got a second chance in a qualifier because of their looks or because KT liked them. I only witnessed the IPT World Open but I still think it was one of the toughest fields ever assembled.
Freddie O
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Sexiness should NOT be what pool is about, even if it brings more ratings and money to the sport. It should be done right and with class.
You say he would be a foolish business man by not putting this "no talent" Shanelle on tv, and I call it selling out. Just like Don King promoting some bum to fight Mike Tyson in his prime.
How would you feel if you spent a lifetime playing pool, working your heart out for years to become one of the best and because you're not "sexy" enough all the attention goes to the newcomer who dresses like a street hooker?? It's not right and not fair.
Nice try but u have nothing. I already pointed out that the sexy girls don't dress slutty. Nice try though.
That does not make sense. If what you say is true then the Filipinos snubbed the Philippine Open (which by the way was NOT "OPEN") because the quality of the field was far less than they expect of a predominately men's event due to the absence of the Filipino stars, and prefer to watch the novelty of a women's event instead.
The US OPEN is the only truly OPEN tournament on the WPA calendar. You DO NOT have to be a member of any organization to play in this event. NO promoter able to handpick who plays in the US Open - it's open to any male player with $500.
But that's off track. I think that the Filipinos are probably more interested in seeing the first women's event in the Philippines than they are interested in seeing a men's event without the best Filipino players.
Kind of like a world championship boxing event with second string boxers and Manny Paquiao is barred from competing. Not as much to see.
Very well said ! The same is here, where CW is promoting his pupils, instead they could invited real players from countries like Poland, Germany and others , this should be an OFFICIAL WC event.
Freddie O
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Actually I think I have something. I believe your definition of sexy/slutty is a bit skewed. Nice try though.
You think you have something? I assure you don't. Show me a pic of a girl in that tourney that dressed like a slut. Trust me u have nothing.
Actually, I like the way Shanelle dresses for the most part. I'm just annoyed she doesn't have the game to be playing at a world championship.
Good post! If Charlie wants to make pool about T & A he should just start a...ummm...beauty pageant.
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I agree with this. I don't find that any of the women in the event dressed in anything too revealing, unfortunately, with all this talk about parading the "pretty" ones on TV.
I too want to go on record as saying that Shanelle seems to handle herself quite professionally and she really does not have much choice but to take the opportunity that Dragon Promotions gives her.
I think it's unfortunate that the promoter does not have more integrity than to parade his contracted player in a world championship when he is fully aware that her skill level is not at a world championship level.
This sullies the event and has sullied it in fact because of the fact that we are talking about it.
One thing that Charlie mentioned is that this event carried no entry fee and that even the last place finishers get some money. That's a good thing.
I guess I am just bummed because I really expected to see great pool from beginning to end. I guess that there isn't much one can do about the fact that some participants from some countries are there because they are the best in that region and although their skill isn't really good enough they still come to represent.
I just really wish that Charlie didn't deliberately fill the field with fluff players. Especially inviting them when they couldn't win a qualifier.
Really a bummer for the people who had to earn their invitation by actually playing great and beating the competition.
But Hey Charlie, on behalf of the great players in this event - thanks for the soft field and the easy payday!!!
So you think DP hosting a tourney that would otherwise not exist, with $75,000 in prize money is a bad thing. Or do you just disagree with the way CW runs/promotes his event.
Check your sig line again......If its good for the players ect....
Okay I will bite, can we get some pics of the party? :grin-square:
Seriously? Its almost impossible for someone to be a member (or lurker) of this forum and them not have seen a pic of Shanelle. There's pics of her in this thread already. There's no need to have anymore posted in this thread.
Have you met Shanelle? Did you know her before "the limelight" or are you speaking, again, on something "you heard"? I'm not a fan of her game (she has none) nor am I fan of her agreeing/wanting to go along with the current game plan of dressing like a tramp while playing pool. In the face of all of that, I'm not going to sit here and comment on her personality since I've never spent any time around her or conversed with her.
(in light of other posts pertaining to the way Shanelle dresses - I don't have any problem with her showing all the cleavage she wants when she's away from the table. I do think that while shooting, it is in bad taste to dress as such. I know of one regional tour that had to stipulate "no excessive cleavage" in their dress code due to one female always having her breasts popping out on tournament day. Complaints about her lack of attire came from both men and women. They were there to shoot pool and didn't appreciate someone using their breasts in an attempt to shark them, which is exactly how many saw the situation.)
That's the question isn't it? Is it "good" for the players? Or is it just good for "some" players and not others.
Did I EVER ONCE say that I thought Charlie putting up a 75K tournament is a bad thing?
No, if you bother to read what I wrote then I said he is to be commended for creating a 20K payday for women players.
That doesn't mean I AGREE with the way the tournament is being run. Just in the same way that I have DISAGREED with how other tournaments have been run in the past.
Basically the attitude put forth by many here is that the participants of this and other events should either suck it up or choose not to play. That's all well and good and each person does have a choice to protest by non-participation.
However that is each individual's personal choice. And in the future some of them may decide to make that choice.
I, as a fan, can certainly voice my opinion here if I don't feel things are right. I happen to agree with Sarah's sentiments.
And I certainly believe that Edwin Reyes would have been against the favoritism and the fact that unqualified participants were "invited" over those who otherwise had to earn a spot. That, in fact, was one of the cornerstones of his platform against the Makebenta regime.
It's not good for the players when they play on subpar, to quote Jay Helfert "B-", equipment in a environmentally hostile arena. It's not good for the player's self-esteem when the best players are ignored in favor of staging what feels like a beauty pageant.
And seriously, five tables for eight groups? One practice table? That's an amazing lack of respect for the players you have in a WORLD Championship. But then again, all you have to do to get a WC is spend a little money with the WPA and bingo you can do what you want to.
Let's see, one player will get $20,000. The second place finisher will get $9000 and it's downhill from there. The hotel is a couple hundred a night, the flight was $1500 or so, days off work for a lot of the players amounts to more expense, do you honestly think that most of the participants will cover their expenses? How is a tournament with bad conditions, sexist attitudes, which puts horrible pool on TV in front of millions of casual viewers good for the players?
So, no, I don't think that a tournament where there is no entry fee except that you check your dignity at the door is a good thing for the players, at least not for the players who can actually play.
This sums it up perfectly.