Schmidt and Blackjack, gone forever?

Marop

14.1 - real pool
Silver Member
It dosen't seem the same around this forum without John and Blackjack. Its a shame that two of the most informative straight pool personalities have decided to leave because of a few negative posters (smashmouth in John's case). I guess you can't blame them, they come on here with valuable knowledge and are criticized by a few to the point that they say its just not worth my time anymore, I have better things to do.

I'm letting John cool off for a while and maybe I can talk him into returning in the future. Hopefully Blackjack will come back someday.
 
Hope not, 2 of the most knowledgable and passionate about 14.1 on the ENTIRE PLANET, and some can't refrain from going off to the bash races if they disagree with what they said or did at some point.
 
JS and BJ

It was an honor having JS posting here, rubbing elbows with us mere mortals, and occasionally taking time from his busy schedule of trying to make a living in the tough world of pool.

I was kind of surprised that he posted as long as he did. People were trying to twist his posts and make him defend that he was better than Crane or things of the like that he had never said. I can see why he might choose not to continue, having to put up with some of the howling jackals on our forum. if he coes back, that would be great. If not, we all understand why not.

As for Blackjack, it is outrageous that the guy who spent all kinds of time educating us by video, commentary, diagrams and discussions, would be chased away by some rude little clever fellow, who saw fit to look this gift horse in the mouth. I received an email from David and I doubt that he is coming back anytime soon. Our loss.
 
I just think we need to band together and if we get some moron who decides to mess with a pro or person like Blackjack we need to take action and red rep them so bad and report them so they are banned.We cant tolerate this stuff any longer. :angry:
 
Fast Lenny said:
I just think we need to band together and if we get some moron who decides to mess with a pro or person like Blackjack we need to take action and red rep them so bad and report them so they are banned.We cant tolerate this stuff any longer. :angry:

I don't think banning is necessary, just some good old fashioned scarlet lettering.

BlackJack will return, imho.

Jeff Livingston
 
i really really really hope blackjack, john and danny return.

They are my hero's, they are the once who make me want to play the game of straightpool, they are the one who made me addicted to it, they are my mentors, and always there to suport me.

I can't do much to make them return, except bad repping those ***, but i really do hope they come back and teach the pupils of the game who really apreciate what they do, there knowledge.

ps will they still have there dvd's for sale? I still need to buy some, and i hope i'll still be able to do so.
 
I don't know exactly what drove David away but I know that it was something strongly aggressive.

I think David is a teacher.. in his heart, a teacher is what he IS. It appears that being a teacher is his destined role in life. But.. there are ways to teach and not have to take sh!t from a bunch of dickheads. If I were he I'd regretfully stick to teaching where I was not being attacked. :shakehead: :banghead: :speechless: :shrug:
 
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I know he isn't a pro or anything, but on the main forum, someone had bumped a thread created by Jude Rosenstock. I had notice that he wasn't posting anymore, but didn't realize it had been since the end of June. His post were always full of great information. I miss him posting. Not sure why he left, but AZ was a better place when he was posting, along with the others mentioned so far.
 
I sincerely hope Blackjack comes back. Not only he is one of the best instructors around and was willing to help seemingly anyone. How do I learn about his new releases like books and dvds I was so much eager to get?

The same goes for John and any other pro flocking around. I know it's hard to withstand some morons trying to get you but they are single units only. There are much more good people who shouldn't suffer such a loss. And David's and John's abscence IS a LOSS for us...
 
I agree Blackjack has been missed. He always had something to offer on any question asked.

Likewise, I hope John S. comes back as well, if anything just to the 14.1 board, at least here people tend to put away the BS and talk about the game.

Same goes for Danny H, don't know why people who with access to individuals at the top of their sport choose to alienate them than take the opportunity to learn from them.

They aren't asking for money and were willing to offer their opinion to almost any pool question asked, why screw up a good thing...just because they wanna try to be an e-thug.

BTW, did anyone catch John running 154 on the TAR broadcast from the US Open?
 
I'll have to admit, i don't enjoy az as much as i used to. Once again, quality contributers such as blackjack get fed up with morons who probably couldn't shoot themselves out of a wet paper sack, and i don't blame him. I wish he was around still, he pointed me in the right direction once, and it got my head right. Time to go old school, and police our own family so we don't lose any more good guys. SAY NO TO A$%^oles, put them in their place. I am pocketwolf, and i approve this message...
 
maybe they should allow for a VIP section.

where the topguys like schmid, BJ etc can post freely, and where the other posters should have a minimum of feedback, and with some kind of voting thing installed.. or even member only. (i wouldnt mind paying for a membership if this mean i can talk with smart inteligent people, but i would never pay to read people trashing eachother and making useless posts..

I also want to say like it has beeing said, that the 14-1 forum has been one of the cleanest, compared to other sections. i always thought straightpool was the game of the real well educated gamelovers. :D
 
Sorry to not see posts from these guys anymore. I know JS and Blackjack both a little bit both are excellent guys, I do not know Danny personnaly at all but he is a serious asset to the game and another fine ambassador for straight pool.

I have not been personnally attacked but the rudeness of some posters have also put me off on AZ. I have not been checking the forum so much, I was always more of a lurker than a poster but I give props to this crazy site for getting me back in to the game. I just feel the site is loosing some its luster and is somewhat watered down.

Anybody want to play some and are coming through Indy give me a PM. I will still be checking but it is not every day anymore. The haters are not good for much and thats a fact.

BTW I started an apology thread. I do not know if it will get any response but here is the link to it.

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?p=1477886#post1477886
 
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Pretty much everything has been said here. Just wanted join in and tell how bad I feel about missing so many knowledgeable posters and great players. Just because some morons like to troll around trying to start a fight just to know that their puny little lives made a difference somewhere. It's a damn shame... :mad:
 
I appreciate all of the sentiments regarding my my absence, I really do.

Does it deserve its own thread? Maybe, maybe not. I'm not this important in my own house.

Myself, Danny, and John would be participating in this forum more if our participation helped us much more than it hurt us. I have never gone out of my way to hurt anybody in this forum. There are those people that seem get a hard on by poking jabs at instructors, or people that defend the people they are attacking.

People like that should not be allowed to post on this forum.

The moderators and administrators of this forum disagree with me about that (in the case of this one individual). I believe I exhausted all "appropriate and dignified" responses to the harassment, so I stopped posting.

I stopped posting as an exercise in self control, not to run away from anything or to display a "thin skin". I have no time for stupidity, and that is what I considered the harassment.

In my absence, the harassment has continued, the new target seems to be Scott Lee (for whatever reason). Hopefully something can be done about this. This is Mike's site and he can run it any way he wants and I have respected that since as far back as 1999.

This is just a disagreement, no hard feelings between myself and Mike, or myself and Mr. Wilson. I have communicated with both of them about how I feel about that and its ok. I wish nothing but success for Mike and this website.

JS and DH

I consider both John and Danny to be my friends. They won't always agree with each other, but that is a testament to how competitive they both are in pool and in life. For those that do not appreciate that fire that exists in their guts... too bad for you.

I feel that both of then took more than a few shots on the chin before they said to hell with it and logged out of here.

As a player, I am not on the same level as Danny and John. I have never claimed to be. The only boasting I have done on this forum was done in jest with bfdlad (Mark) to generate interest in a challenge match between John Schmidt and Quinten Hann. It was completely staged, and done "tongue in cheek" by both of us - and yes - at one point I communicated with both Quinten and John about what Mark and I were doing. It was a lot of fun. (I think Mark had more fun with it than I did - the rivalry between John and Quinten was 100% REAL).

:shrug:

As an instructor, I am not on the same level as Randyg or Scott Lee. I tilt more towards the mental aspect of the game - where they are professors of the fundamentals. I respect both of them immensely and consider them to be two of the best ambassadors for the game of pool.

I don't know everything about pool. I don't know everything about straight pool. Every once in a while I can string a few racks of 9 ball together, every so often I can put up some good numbers in 14.1 - it doesn't happen every day. I don't expect it to happen every day.

I love to pass my knowledge along to those that are willing to listen. I love the game of pool.

For those that want to negatively comment on my playing ability, you are entitled to your opinion. However, when your opinion starts effecting my ability to post here without being attacked or put down at every opportunity, then your right to having your opinion comes head to head with my right to have an opinion that you are an asshole.

You're entitled to your opinion, I am entitled to mine.

:grin:

I appreciate all of the support, posts, and e-mails that I have received from everybody. I will pop in here from time to time - I am aways available at my website, myspace, and facebook.
 
David, I knew you been lurking my friend. This can be a tough place to play at times, don't let a certain few get to you, but I know it has to be disheartening taking unwarranted shots. We look forward to you chiming in from time to time.

Kev
 
quiet place

Hello Blackjack, John and Danny:

The straight pool section of AZ Billiards has become a quiet place without you and this is not good. :frown: This section was imo the hightlight of AZB and we miss your contributions to it. I hope that time will bring you back here.
Hopefully we are able as a community to prevent these things from happening again. Maybe "red reps" do work, but probably it is impossible to remove all the trolls. Some people just have a sick need to destroy :angry: and they just need to be ignored.

One of the mostly lurking members
Michael (curiousofpool)
 
All I know is the 14.1 forum sucks without Blackjack, Schmidt and Harriman. See how slow it's been lately? It used to be hopping. I used to rush home from work to see if one of the three posted something.

Dave
 
David,

I haven't replied to this thread because I don't even know what happened in the first place. I'm assuming it was something in the main forum; I sure haven't seen anybody treat you with anything but respect in this forum. As it should be.

Which begs the obvious solution..... why not just stay in the 14.1 forum? ;)

- Steve
 
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